thedoper wrote:Id like an on the ball defender. A defense first guard to fill the Pat Bev role or give us a bit more speed when we need it. I understand needing a contingency for size and rebounding but I still think we may need some on ball help in the 2/3 zone.
I generally agree, Doper. We can't go into this season, in my view, with Edwards as our only good defensive guard. We need to do something to partially offset the loss of Beverley and it starts with on-ball defense and toughness. But we're also losing Beverley's offense, including his three-point shooting. We also lost Beasley's 3-point shooting. Forbes is only a 3-point shooter and he's some a limited role player that he can't see much court time. So I'm hoping for the on-ball defender you're talking about but also with 3-point shooting ability.
I think the defensive guard could either be a guy that also hits 3's OR maybe is a guy that can at least be a secondary player maker. It's gonna be hard to find a guy that's a 3 and D and we could still use another ball handler.
Good point, Monster. Defense plus one of the other two skills.
My numbers say the Wolves currently sit $7.56M below the luxury tax
Their means to use that space...
- Bi-annual exception: $4.1M
- Minimum exception for player w/ 2+ years of service: $1.84M
- Min exception for player w/ 1 year of service: $1.64M
- Min exception for rookie: $1M
kekgeek1 wrote:My numbers say the Wolves currently sit $7.56M below the luxury tax
Their means to use that space...
- Bi-annual exception: $4.1M
- Minimum exception for player w/ 2+ years of service: $1.84M
- Min exception for player w/ 1 year of service: $1.64M
- Min exception for rookie: $1M
Per Dane Moore
It may have been Hollinger that said Prince's incentives from his last contract are on the new one.
kekgeek1 wrote:My numbers say the Wolves currently sit $7.56M below the luxury tax
Their means to use that space...
- Bi-annual exception: $4.1M
- Minimum exception for player w/ 2+ years of service: $1.84M
- Min exception for player w/ 1 year of service: $1.64M
- Min exception for rookie: $1M
Per Dane Moore
One of the nice things about the minimum salary exception is that you can experienced vets more than the amount that actually counts against the cap. For example, the Wolves could sign a 7 year vet to a contract that starts at $2.463 million but only $1.84 million of that contract would count against the Wolves for cap or luxury tax purposes.
I read somewhere that the Wolves will have a $4.4 million trade exception once the Gobert deal is finalized. If true, the Wolves could use that exception and save the BAE for next year. The trade exception would actually be slightly higher than the BAE and it would not be limited to two years. I don't know who the Wolves might target this summer with that $4.4 million, but it's another tool in the tool box.
kekgeek1 wrote:My numbers say the Wolves currently sit $7.56M below the luxury tax
Their means to use that space...
- Bi-annual exception: $4.1M
- Minimum exception for player w/ 2+ years of service: $1.84M
- Min exception for player w/ 1 year of service: $1.64M
- Min exception for rookie: $1M
Per Dane Moore
One of the nice things about the minimum salary exception is that you can experienced vets more than the amount that actually counts against the cap. For example, the Wolves could sign a 7 year vet to a contract that starts at $2.463 million but only $1.84 million of that contract would count against the Wolves for cap or luxury tax purposes.
I read somewhere that the Wolves will have a $4.4 million trade exception once the Gobert deal is finalized. If true, the Wolves could use that exception and save the BAE for next year. The trade exception would actually be slightly higher than the BAE and it would not be limited to two years. I don't know who the Wolves might target this summer with that $4.4 million, but it's another tool in the tool box.
One possible use of that exception would be to acquire a player that a team would otherwise just waive. That could be a vet player or a young guy signed for a little more money than the vet min. Heck depending on the situation the Wolves might even get a small asset back for taking that player on if a team is in the Lux tax. This is unlikely but it's always nice to have those trade exceptions.
Edit: When looking at something else in the CBA FAQ I did find that you can use a trade exception to claim a player on waivers. Probably not something that will happen but I thought it was possible but I didn't find it before.
kekgeek1 wrote:My numbers say the Wolves currently sit $7.56M below the luxury tax
Their means to use that space...
- Bi-annual exception: $4.1M
- Minimum exception for player w/ 2+ years of service: $1.84M
- Min exception for player w/ 1 year of service: $1.64M
- Min exception for rookie: $1M
Per Dane Moore
One of the nice things about the minimum salary exception is that you can experienced vets more than the amount that actually counts against the cap. For example, the Wolves could sign a 7 year vet to a contract that starts at $2.463 million but only $1.84 million of that contract would count against the Wolves for cap or luxury tax purposes.
I read somewhere that the Wolves will have a $4.4 million trade exception once the Gobert deal is finalized. If true, the Wolves could use that exception and save the BAE for next year. The trade exception would actually be slightly higher than the BAE and it would not be limited to two years. I don't know who the Wolves might target this summer with that $4.4 million, but it's another tool in the tool box.
One possible use of that exception would be to acquire a player that a team would otherwise just waive. That could be a vet player or a young guy signed for a little more money than the vet min. Heck depending on the situation the Wolves might even get a small asset back for taking that player on if a team is in the Lux tax. This is unlikely but it's always nice to have those trade exceptions.
Edit: When looking at something else in the CBA FAQ I did find that you can use a trade exception to claim a player on waivers. Probably not something that will happen but I thought it was possible but I didn't find it before.
Well, it wouldn't be via the waiver wire, but the trade opportunity might present itself before the player is waived.
Sign Knight to a standard deal as the third center
Minott gets a two-way deal, lives in Iowa
the other two way is for the best PG in summer league who shakes free. Really look for the next Alvarado. If we did, that solves so many long term issues.
I'd probably throw an offer out there to Kessler Edwards. If Campazzo wants in on a vet min to be the resident villain to other teams, that's cool too.
WildWolf2813 wrote:Sign Knight to a standard deal as the third center
Minott gets a two-way deal, lives in Iowa
the other two way is for the best PG in summer league who shakes free. Really look for the next Alvarado. If we did, that solves so many long term issues.
I'd probably throw an offer out there to Kessler Edwards. If Campazzo wants in on a vet min to be the resident villain to other teams, that's cool too.
I like your plan although I think the Wolves are going to add a vet center with one roster spot which makes a lot of sense.
Are you signing Knight to a multi-year deal or just a 1 year deal?
Kessler Edwards resigned with the Nets to a 2 year deal. When looking up Edwards I saw the Nets got TJ Warren on a 1 year vet min deal. If he is healthy he might be a guy that gets a pretty good opportunity depending on how things shake out with Durant and Kyrie.
Let's say Josh Minott continues to destroy the summer league or plays well enough he basically deserves an NBA deal like Naz did. What could the wolves do with their other 2 way contract?
They could sign a guy that's probably more ready to help now. Lip has suggested Kevon Harris. He is a guy that played 4 years of college, a couple years in the G-league and even 5 international games. He is clearly physically ready to play and has a somewhat diverse skill set. He is also another guy from Georgia! There are other similar players in this vein or even guys that have played some NBA games that the Wolves could sign.
The other route they could go with is a guy with less experience and more theoretical upside or development. I was thinking about this today and started looking at guys on top 100 lists for this draft that haven't been signed to some sort of contract. One of the first guys I came across was John Butler. He is a 7' 174lb freshman who shot over 39% on threes and can move well on the perimeter. He has lots of length but obviously the fact that he is so thin is a problem but there is some nice offensive skill there for a guy that size and if you consider him more of a perimeter player than a center then his lack of bulk is somewhat less problematic. There were a few people making their lists that expected him to get drafted in the 2nd round or had him as a top undrafted guy. He is playing for the Pelicans summer league team. He might be at the extreme end of signing a guy to a 2-way contract that you are getting him as a developmental player.
I see the Wolves having an opportunity to possibly another possible depth player/prospect to the roster on a 2-way. They have done pretty well in this regard. I'm looking forward to watching more of the Wolves summer league and also keeping an eye out for other guys that might be good to sign. The Wolves are more in win now mode but I don't think that means they don't look for some more young talent. SOMETIMES even rookies end up being key contributors. Herb Jones last season is just one example.
