Maybe someone can break down exactly what we have for the last few roster spots but to me that's not the point here.
Address the biggest area of positional need?
Veteran Specialist?
Developmental roster spot?
Player Coach that is more coach but still paid as a player?
I am wondering how you would fill the last few roster spots this year? Why are they a good fit?
How would you fill the final roster spots?
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TC thus far seems to value specialist skills and versatility. Prince provides versatility can play SG/SF/PF and excels as a 3pt specialist. K. Anderson again specialist Point Forward that can play multiple positions. TC paid up for Gobert a rebounding / shoot blocking defensive specialist.
Now we move onto additions after landing big fish Gobert and TC's first move is yet another versatile combo guard, 3pt specialist in Forbes on a min contract. I can say Forbes will break zones and teams might try zone against the Wolves because we have so much size. For the price and what he does I'm happy. Forbes has a role as an elite shooter, zone buster, and if he's forced into the rotation for any reason you know what he provides and may even change strategy to just out score the other team.
I'm ok with Forbes but I also think it's important to really evaluate how you fill out these last roster spots. So much value in these spots goes unnoticed. If I want a veteran that may contribute, can fill specific role, has won a championship and can share that experience with a younger team then Forbes seems logical. I always felt shooting was a bit contagious too so adding a guy that can flat out shoot could help others, not sure how much he can help a teammates shot but when your teammates are hitting shots it sorta boost the whole teams shooting confidence.
Based on what we know about TC, he will probably go for versatility, veteran, specialist types. So maybe Ibaka, Derrick Jones, A. Bradley, A. Rivers, McLemore feel like his types.
I don't think there is a certain way the roster should be filled out each year but with current construction, personally I think brining in some developmental players that could develop into future rotational players should be the focus. M. Wright, N. Knight, Kessler Edwards, McClung, Mo Brown to name a few in no order.
I also see value in veterans that may help more with the mental side and can help via experience. I think you really need to be in the building to name who would be good or bad at this but Igoudala in GS or Haslem in MIA would be examples.
Other names in no order off the top of my head Thomas Bryant, M. Harrell, Melo, TJ Warren, C. Martin, F. Jackson, or maybe Rondo.
Now we move onto additions after landing big fish Gobert and TC's first move is yet another versatile combo guard, 3pt specialist in Forbes on a min contract. I can say Forbes will break zones and teams might try zone against the Wolves because we have so much size. For the price and what he does I'm happy. Forbes has a role as an elite shooter, zone buster, and if he's forced into the rotation for any reason you know what he provides and may even change strategy to just out score the other team.
I'm ok with Forbes but I also think it's important to really evaluate how you fill out these last roster spots. So much value in these spots goes unnoticed. If I want a veteran that may contribute, can fill specific role, has won a championship and can share that experience with a younger team then Forbes seems logical. I always felt shooting was a bit contagious too so adding a guy that can flat out shoot could help others, not sure how much he can help a teammates shot but when your teammates are hitting shots it sorta boost the whole teams shooting confidence.
Based on what we know about TC, he will probably go for versatility, veteran, specialist types. So maybe Ibaka, Derrick Jones, A. Bradley, A. Rivers, McLemore feel like his types.
I don't think there is a certain way the roster should be filled out each year but with current construction, personally I think brining in some developmental players that could develop into future rotational players should be the focus. M. Wright, N. Knight, Kessler Edwards, McClung, Mo Brown to name a few in no order.
I also see value in veterans that may help more with the mental side and can help via experience. I think you really need to be in the building to name who would be good or bad at this but Igoudala in GS or Haslem in MIA would be examples.
Other names in no order off the top of my head Thomas Bryant, M. Harrell, Melo, TJ Warren, C. Martin, F. Jackson, or maybe Rondo.
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Tactical unit wrote:TC thus far seems to value specialist skills and versatility. Prince provides versatility can play SG/SF/PF and excels as a 3pt specialist. K. Anderson again specialist Point Forward that can play multiple positions. TC paid up for Gobert a rebounding / shoot blocking defensive specialist.
Now we move onto additions after landing big fish Gobert and TC's first move is yet another versatile combo guard, 3pt specialist in Forbes on a min contract. I can say Forbes will break zones and teams might try zone against the Wolves because we have so much size. For the price and what he does I'm happy. Forbes has a role as an elite shooter, zone buster, and if he's forced into the rotation for any reason you know what he provides and may even change strategy to just out score the other team.
I'm ok with Forbes but I also think it's important to really evaluate how you fill out these last roster spots. So much value in these spots goes unnoticed. If I want a veteran that may contribute, can fill specific role, has won a championship and can share that experience with a younger team then Forbes seems logical. I always felt shooting was a bit contagious too so adding a guy that can flat out shoot could help others, not sure how much he can help a teammates shot but when your teammates are hitting shots it sorta boost the whole teams shooting confidence.
Based on what we know about TC, he will probably go for versatility, veteran, specialist types. So maybe Ibaka, Derrick Jones, A. Bradley, A. Rivers, McLemore feel like his types.
I don't think there is a certain way the roster should be filled out each year but with current construction, personally I think brining in some developmental players that could develop into future rotational players should be the focus. M. Wright, N. Knight, Kessler Edwards, McClung, Mo Brown to name a few in no order.
I also see value in veterans that may help more with the mental side and can help via experience. I think you really need to be in the building to name who would be good or bad at this but Igoudala in GS or Haslem in MIA would be examples.
Other names in no order off the top of my head Thomas Bryant, M. Harrell, Melo, TJ Warren, C. Martin, F. Jackson, or maybe Rondo.
This is a good thread and you have some good thoughts here.
You break down some of the players well but I actually think Forbes is the only actual Specialist that Connelly has added. Anderson is a unique do everything except hit 3's and Gobert is absolutely a 2-way player. He also added Moore in the draft that has a theoretical do pretty much anything skill set. Minott is a raw potential guy I will be interested to see in the summer league and see if he has more to offer than energy and athletic ability. Maybe he is a specialist but he seems like an upside player. Kessler is gone but they didn't pick him because they thought he was just a shot blocker they thought he had some unique offensive skills too. It seems to me Connely has targeted guys with multiple skills and versatility than specialists. I would say he has also seemed to like size and length...other than Forbes but we can all agree he is here to hit 3's which is a good depth addition especially with Beasley gone.
What will the Wolves add with the roster spots left? It could be more specialist types. As it's been mentioned the Wolves now lack a proven on ball point of attack guy that can really got at guys on that end. Moore might be able to do that but he is a rookie. Later I'll do another response on what I think they should or could do with the rest of the roster.
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monsterpile wrote:Tactical unit wrote:TC thus far seems to value specialist skills and versatility. Prince provides versatility can play SG/SF/PF and excels as a 3pt specialist. K. Anderson again specialist Point Forward that can play multiple positions. TC paid up for Gobert a rebounding / shoot blocking defensive specialist.
Now we move onto additions after landing big fish Gobert and TC's first move is yet another versatile combo guard, 3pt specialist in Forbes on a min contract. I can say Forbes will break zones and teams might try zone against the Wolves because we have so much size. For the price and what he does I'm happy. Forbes has a role as an elite shooter, zone buster, and if he's forced into the rotation for any reason you know what he provides and may even change strategy to just out score the other team.
I'm ok with Forbes but I also think it's important to really evaluate how you fill out these last roster spots. So much value in these spots goes unnoticed. If I want a veteran that may contribute, can fill specific role, has won a championship and can share that experience with a younger team then Forbes seems logical. I always felt shooting was a bit contagious too so adding a guy that can flat out shoot could help others, not sure how much he can help a teammates shot but when your teammates are hitting shots it sorta boost the whole teams shooting confidence.
Based on what we know about TC, he will probably go for versatility, veteran, specialist types. So maybe Ibaka, Derrick Jones, A. Bradley, A. Rivers, McLemore feel like his types.
I don't think there is a certain way the roster should be filled out each year but with current construction, personally I think brining in some developmental players that could develop into future rotational players should be the focus. M. Wright, N. Knight, Kessler Edwards, McClung, Mo Brown to name a few in no order.
I also see value in veterans that may help more with the mental side and can help via experience. I think you really need to be in the building to name who would be good or bad at this but Igoudala in GS or Haslem in MIA would be examples.
Other names in no order off the top of my head Thomas Bryant, M. Harrell, Melo, TJ Warren, C. Martin, F. Jackson, or maybe Rondo.
This is a good thread and you have some good thoughts here.
You break down some of the players well but I actually think Forbes is the only actual Specialist that Connelly has added. Anderson is a unique do everything except hit 3's and Gobert is absolutely a 2-way player. He also added Moore in the draft that has a theoretical do pretty much anything skill set. Minott is a raw potential guy I will be interested to see in the summer league and see if he has more to offer than energy and athletic ability. Maybe he is a specialist but he seems like an upside player. Kessler is gone but they didn't pick him because they thought he was just a shot blocker they thought he had some unique offensive skills too. It seems to me Connely has targeted guys with multiple skills and versatility than specialists. I would say he has also seemed to like size and length...other than Forbes but we can all agree he is here to hit 3's which is a good depth addition especially with Beasley gone.
What will the Wolves add with the roster spots left? It could be more specialist types. As it's been mentioned the Wolves now lack a proven on ball point of attack guy that can really got at guys on that end. Moore might be able to do that but he is a rookie. Later I'll do another response on what I think they should or could do with the rest of the roster.
It might be best to just wait for the player to come along that fits best because other teams will make plenty of cuts between now and the playoffs. That might be the best path to filling out those final roster spots.
Personally I don't think those last couple of roster spots play many minutes on the year, so they should be used as developmental roster spots but I don't think there is one right way to do it. In certain scenario's maybe that player coach is ideal, maybe you add a specialist that makes one big play and so they are the best addition.
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I see three needs for this team right now.
1. A backup defensive/rebounding big. The Wolves now have no defensive, rebounding bigs on the roster behind Gobert and Towns. Naz Reid is offensively skilled, but he's a really poor defender and equally poor rebounder. Even if entirely healthy all season, Gobert obviously isn't going to play 48 minutes. He's averaged 30 minutes per game over his career and now he's 30 years old. He's also bound to miss at least some significant number of games entirely. He played in 66 games last season, 71 the prior season and 68 the season before that. We have no one to pick up any of the defensive or rebounding slack when he's not on the floor. Nor do we have anyone to pick up the rebounding slack when Towns is off the floor because doesn't rebound well either. Vanderbilt was a superb rebounder and he's gone. So I see this as by far the Wolves top remaining off-season priority. We're clearly in win-now mode, so the Wolves can't wait until next summer or even the February trade deadline to fill this need.
2. A starting caliber two-way SF. Although I'm a big McDaniels fan, he's still a major unknown. We all see his potential and obviously the Wolves coaching staff and front office do too because they steadfastly refused to include him in any deals. But unlike Ant, McDaniels still hasn't given us any assurance that he's likely to even come close to reaching his potential And even if he eventually becomes the player many of us think he can be, he's still very young and, like many players in NBA history, he might not blossom until his 4th, 5th or even 6th season - witness e.g., Jermaine O'Neal and Chauncey Billups. To maximize the opportunity Gobert brings us to leap forward right away, the Wolves need to be prepared to move McDaniels into a backup SF/PF role in the event he doesn't elevate his game significantly over last season.
3. A good, tough 3&D rotation guard. This becomes critical with the loss of Beverly. Losing Beverley we not only lose his moxie/toughness, we also lose his stellar defense, ball-handling and scoring/3-point shooting. I really like Nowell, but we need to be honest and acknowledge that he's a poor defender. DLO improved defensively last season, but he's not a good defender and I expect him to be who he's always been. That puts a lot of pressure on Ant. He looked tremendous defensively at times, but he's still very young and wasn't known for his defense in college. Moreover, it's worth pondering whether losing Beverley will have a negative effect on the defensive chemistry that obviously affected Ant last season. Finally, Edwards has to bear such a heavy load offensively, that it's a lot to expect him to carry such a heavy load defensively. We can't expect to get all of the things Beverly brought - moxie, toughness, defense, 3-point shooting and ball-handling. I think we'll need to forego the ball-handling and hopefully sign a solid, tough 3&D guard. Maybe Moore can fill this role, but that's a lot to expect from a rookie who had only one good season our of three in his college career.
Right now we have three open roster spots if we use one of our two-ways on Minott. But we don't have any of our MLE. We have the $4M BAE and apparently we also have a $4.4M trade exception that resulted from including Bolmaro in the deal. Not sure who's out there to fill any, much less all three, of these needs. But I think that's the task in front of our front office.
1. A backup defensive/rebounding big. The Wolves now have no defensive, rebounding bigs on the roster behind Gobert and Towns. Naz Reid is offensively skilled, but he's a really poor defender and equally poor rebounder. Even if entirely healthy all season, Gobert obviously isn't going to play 48 minutes. He's averaged 30 minutes per game over his career and now he's 30 years old. He's also bound to miss at least some significant number of games entirely. He played in 66 games last season, 71 the prior season and 68 the season before that. We have no one to pick up any of the defensive or rebounding slack when he's not on the floor. Nor do we have anyone to pick up the rebounding slack when Towns is off the floor because doesn't rebound well either. Vanderbilt was a superb rebounder and he's gone. So I see this as by far the Wolves top remaining off-season priority. We're clearly in win-now mode, so the Wolves can't wait until next summer or even the February trade deadline to fill this need.
2. A starting caliber two-way SF. Although I'm a big McDaniels fan, he's still a major unknown. We all see his potential and obviously the Wolves coaching staff and front office do too because they steadfastly refused to include him in any deals. But unlike Ant, McDaniels still hasn't given us any assurance that he's likely to even come close to reaching his potential And even if he eventually becomes the player many of us think he can be, he's still very young and, like many players in NBA history, he might not blossom until his 4th, 5th or even 6th season - witness e.g., Jermaine O'Neal and Chauncey Billups. To maximize the opportunity Gobert brings us to leap forward right away, the Wolves need to be prepared to move McDaniels into a backup SF/PF role in the event he doesn't elevate his game significantly over last season.
3. A good, tough 3&D rotation guard. This becomes critical with the loss of Beverly. Losing Beverley we not only lose his moxie/toughness, we also lose his stellar defense, ball-handling and scoring/3-point shooting. I really like Nowell, but we need to be honest and acknowledge that he's a poor defender. DLO improved defensively last season, but he's not a good defender and I expect him to be who he's always been. That puts a lot of pressure on Ant. He looked tremendous defensively at times, but he's still very young and wasn't known for his defense in college. Moreover, it's worth pondering whether losing Beverley will have a negative effect on the defensive chemistry that obviously affected Ant last season. Finally, Edwards has to bear such a heavy load offensively, that it's a lot to expect him to carry such a heavy load defensively. We can't expect to get all of the things Beverly brought - moxie, toughness, defense, 3-point shooting and ball-handling. I think we'll need to forego the ball-handling and hopefully sign a solid, tough 3&D guard. Maybe Moore can fill this role, but that's a lot to expect from a rookie who had only one good season our of three in his college career.
Right now we have three open roster spots if we use one of our two-ways on Minott. But we don't have any of our MLE. We have the $4M BAE and apparently we also have a $4.4M trade exception that resulted from including Bolmaro in the deal. Not sure who's out there to fill any, much less all three, of these needs. But I think that's the task in front of our front office.
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Re: How would you fill the final roster spots?
lipoli390 wrote:I see three needs for this team right now.
1. A backup defensive/rebounding big. The Wolves now have no defensive, rebounding bigs on the roster behind Gobert and Towns. Naz Reid is offensively skilled, but he's a really poor defender and equally poor rebounder. Even if entirely healthy all season, Gobert obviously isn't going to play 48 minutes. He's averaged 30 minutes per game over his career and now he's 30 years old. He's also bound to miss at least some significant number of games entirely. He played in 66 games last season, 71 the prior season and 68 the season before that. We have no one to pick up any of the defensive or rebounding slack when he's not on the floor. Nor do we have anyone to pick up the rebounding slack when Towns is off the floor because doesn't rebound well either. Vanderbilt was a superb rebounder and he's gone. So I see this as by far the Wolves top remaining off-season priority. We're clearly in win-now mode, so the Wolves can't wait until next summer or even the February trade deadline to fill this need.
2. A starting caliber two-way SF. Although I'm a big McDaniels fan, he's still a major unknown. We all see his potential and obviously the Wolves coaching staff and front office do too because they steadfastly refused to include him in any deals. But unlike Ant, McDaniels still hasn't given us any assurance that he's likely to even come close to reaching his potential And even if he eventually becomes the player many of us think he can be, he's still very young and, like many players in NBA history, he might not blossom until his 4th, 5th or even 6th season - witness e.g., Jermaine O'Neal and Chauncey Billups. To maximize the opportunity Gobert brings us to leap forward right away, the Wolves need to be prepared to move McDaniels into a backup SF/PF role in the event he doesn't elevate his game significantly over last season.
3. A good, tough 3&D rotation guard. This becomes critical with the loss of Beverly. Losing Beverley we not only lose his moxie/toughness, we also lose his stellar defense, ball-handling and scoring/3-point shooting. I really like Nowell, but we need to be honest and acknowledge that he's a poor defender. DLO improved defensively last season, but he's not a good defender and I expect him to be who he's always been. That puts a lot of pressure on Ant. He looked tremendous defensively at times, but he's still very young and wasn't known for his defense in college. Moreover, it's worth pondering whether losing Beverley will have a negative effect on the defensive chemistry that obviously affected Ant last season. Finally, Edwards has to bear such a heavy load offensively, that it's a lot to expect him to carry such a heavy load defensively. We can't expect to get all of the things Beverly brought - moxie, toughness, defense, 3-point shooting and ball-handling. I think we'll need to forego the ball-handling and hopefully sign a solid, tough 3&D guard. Maybe Moore can fill this role, but that's a lot to expect from a rookie who had only one good season our of three in his college career.
Right now we have three open roster spots if we use one of our two-ways on Minott. But we don't have any of our MLE. We have the $4M BAE and apparently we also have a $4.4M trade exception that resulted from including Bolmaro in the deal. Not sure who's out there to fill any, much less all three, of these needs. But I think that's the task in front of our front office.
Strong identification of the potential best ways to fill out those final roster spots.
To me it feels like Minott & Knight are likely locked in, so maybe just one roster spot without another trade of some sorts.
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Lip, a few things...
- On Gobert's durability, remember that the Covid seasons were cut short. He actually didn't miss much time at all and has a stellar track record of durability.
- Don't forget the Kyle Anderson addition. He is a legit sized 4 in today's NBA and is a solid defensive rebounder. Gobert/KAT/SloMo/Reid/Knight is not an undersized group by any stretch. I'm not saying there aren't opportunities to upgrade Reid or Knight's slot, but I don't see it as our #1 need at this point.
- On the 2-way starting SF, it's Jaden or bust at this point. We really need him to step up, because we don't have the assets to go out and find someone else. Prince is a nice backup, but that's all he is....just OK.
- I would put 3&D rotation guard as our #1 priority and at least somewhat realistic to go find. I don't know who the right fit is or how much it would cost, but it seems like something a smart front office could find. Ideally it would be a backup PG that challenges McLaughlin for minutes. I'd like to see a defensive oriented PG next to Nowell with the bench unit.
- On Gobert's durability, remember that the Covid seasons were cut short. He actually didn't miss much time at all and has a stellar track record of durability.
- Don't forget the Kyle Anderson addition. He is a legit sized 4 in today's NBA and is a solid defensive rebounder. Gobert/KAT/SloMo/Reid/Knight is not an undersized group by any stretch. I'm not saying there aren't opportunities to upgrade Reid or Knight's slot, but I don't see it as our #1 need at this point.
- On the 2-way starting SF, it's Jaden or bust at this point. We really need him to step up, because we don't have the assets to go out and find someone else. Prince is a nice backup, but that's all he is....just OK.
- I would put 3&D rotation guard as our #1 priority and at least somewhat realistic to go find. I don't know who the right fit is or how much it would cost, but it seems like something a smart front office could find. Ideally it would be a backup PG that challenges McLaughlin for minutes. I'd like to see a defensive oriented PG next to Nowell with the bench unit.
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Q-was-here wrote:Lip, a few things...
- On Gobert's durability, remember that the Covid seasons were cut short. He actually didn't miss much time at all and has a stellar track record of durability.
- Don't forget the Kyle Anderson addition. He is a legit sized 4 in today's NBA and is a solid defensive rebounder. Gobert/KAT/SloMo/Reid/Knight is not an undersized group by any stretch. I'm not saying there aren't opportunities to upgrade Reid or Knight's slot, but I don't see it as our #1 need at this point.
- On the 2-way starting SF, it's Jaden or bust at this point. We really need him to step up, because we don't have the assets to go out and find someone else. Prince is a nice backup, but that's all he is....just OK.
- I would put 3&D rotation guard as our #1 priority and at least somewhat realistic to go find. I don't know who the right fit is or how much it would cost, but it seems like something a smart front office could find. Ideally it would be a backup PG that challenges McLaughlin for minutes. I'd like to see a defensive oriented PG next to Nowell with the bench unit.
I don't see a backup SF as anywhere close to the need that the backup defensive rebounder or defending guard needs that have been well pointed out. The Wolves have Prince that's a pretty good depth player. Prince I think as a defender is decent but he is a solid all around player that helps in a few ways. Meanwhile if needed Edwards and even Anderson can play there some minutes. The Wolves currently have Russell, McLaughlin, Edwards, Nowell and Moore as guards. Edwards is the only guy you could argue is a guy we would expect to be above or well above average defensively. Like Q said maybe Moore does it as a rookie but I don't think we are going into the season planning on him being that guy...maybe we will change our tune based on some SL games or something. Lol Shaq Harrison did play a handful of games for Denver a couple seasons ago so Connelly knows him. He would be a guy that would likely sign a partially guaranteed deal so you could let him go if you found someone better in season...or even before the season started.
If someone wants another combo forward that plays their butt off, plays D, and can't shoot RHJ is available. :)
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Q-was-here wrote:Lip, a few things...
- On Gobert's durability, remember that the Covid seasons were cut short. He actually didn't miss much time at all and has a stellar track record of durability.
- Don't forget the Kyle Anderson addition. He is a legit sized 4 in today's NBA and is a solid defensive rebounder. Gobert/KAT/SloMo/Reid/Knight is not an undersized group by any stretch. I'm not saying there aren't opportunities to upgrade Reid or Knight's slot, but I don't see it as our #1 need at this point.
- On the 2-way starting SF, it's Jaden or bust at this point. We really need him to step up, because we don't have the assets to go out and find someone else. Prince is a nice backup, but that's all he is....just OK.
- I would put 3&D rotation guard as our #1 priority and at least somewhat realistic to go find. I don't know who the right fit is or how much it would cost, but it seems like something a smart front office could find. Ideally it would be a backup PG that challenges McLaughlin for minutes. I'd like to see a defensive oriented PG next to Nowell with the bench unit.
Loved the Kyle Anderson addition, he can give some insight on Memphis, has unique point forward skills. He's also a rotational player that can make a difference on both ends. I think he can teach some pace and footwork aspects of his game to some of the other players.
Any defensive oriented PG's available that you would like?
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This is Doogie again but Wolves trying to sign Boogie or Gorgui