WildWolf2813 wrote:I agree with Eitan. He can be a starter and a very critical part of a team's makeup in terms of intangibles, but that's not the kind of swing you take with the first overall selection.
I agree, Wild. Deni is the sort of prospect you trade down for. On the other hand, you can't just take a big swing at #1. You also have to take a smart swing, and depending on the situation that could be a shorter swing. For example, probably best not to take your hardest swing when facing a knuckleball pitches or even a pitcher with a great curve ball. The problem with this draft is that the three most talented players are somewhat analogous to a knuckleballs, meaning there's a significant chance of a swing and a miss. Some organizations might need to take the big swing under these circumstances. Those would be rebuilding teams that have no all-stars on their rosters. The Wolves currently have two young all-star caliber players. So the Wolves could shorten their swing just a big in this draft to better their chances of hitting a bases clearing double, but still swing hard enough for a home run if they make solid contact. I'm not sure the swing I'm talking about would be Deni. But maybe it's Okongwu. If you believe, as I do, that Okongwu has a very good chance of becoming a Bam Adebayo, then he might be the best pick at #1 even though I'd still be reluctant to make that pick at #1.
WildWolf2813 wrote:I agree with Eitan. He can be a starter and a very critical part of a team's makeup in terms of intangibles, but that's not the kind of swing you take with the first overall selection.
I agree, Wild. Deni is the sort of prospect you trade down for. On the other hand, you can't just take a big swing at #1. You also have to take a smart swing, and depending on the situation that could be a shorter swing. For example, probably best not to take your hardest swing when facing a knuckleball pitches or even a pitcher with a great curve ball. The problem with this draft is that the three most talented players are somewhat analogous to a knuckleballs, meaning there's a significant chance of a swing and a miss. Some organizations might need to take the big swing under these circumstances. Those would be rebuilding teams that have no all-stars on their rosters. The Wolves currently have two young all-star caliber players. So the Wolves could shorten their swing just a big in this draft to better their chances of hitting a bases clearing double, but still swing hard enough for a home run if they make solid contact. I'm not sure the swing I'm talking about would be Deni. But maybe it's Okongwu. If you believe, as I do, that Okongwu has a very good chance of becoming a Bam Adebayo, then he might be the best pick at #1 even though I'd still be reluctant to make that pick at #1.
At what point does our team focus on getting out of the rebuild? Prospect after prospect.
I want to see players that can play right now alongside Towns and Russell. Ball doesn't fit. Edwards makes the Okogie and Culver situation tough.
I will agree BPA at #1. In my opinion that is Deni or Wiseman.
Okongwu shows few similarities to Bam. That narrative should stop.
WildWolf2813 wrote:I agree with Eitan. He can be a starter and a very critical part of a team's makeup in terms of intangibles, but that's not the kind of swing you take with the first overall selection.
I agree, Wild. Deni is the sort of prospect you trade down for. On the other hand, you can't just take a big swing at #1. You also have to take a smart swing, and depending on the situation that could be a shorter swing. For example, probably best not to take your hardest swing when facing a knuckleball pitches or even a pitcher with a great curve ball. The problem with this draft is that the three most talented players are somewhat analogous to a knuckleballs, meaning there's a significant chance of a swing and a miss. Some organizations might need to take the big swing under these circumstances. Those would be rebuilding teams that have no all-stars on their rosters. The Wolves currently have two young all-star caliber players. So the Wolves could shorten their swing just a big in this draft to better their chances of hitting a bases clearing double, but still swing hard enough for a home run if they make solid contact. I'm not sure the swing I'm talking about would be Deni. But maybe it's Okongwu. If you believe, as I do, that Okongwu has a very good chance of becoming a Bam Adebayo, then he might be the best pick at #1 even though I'd still be reluctant to make that pick at #1.
At what point does our team focus on getting out of the rebuild? Prospect after prospect.
I want to see players that can play right now alongside Towns and Russell. Ball doesn't fit. Edwards makes the Okogie and Culver situation tough.
I will agree BPA at #1. In my opinion that is Deni or Wiseman.
Okongwu shows few similarities to Bam. That narrative should stop.
I don't think we should be ruling Edwards out because of Okogie or Culver. Okogie has been shown to be a bench player. Culver has not even consistently shown he belongs in the league. Both may have some potential, but if Edwards projects to be a better player than them at the position then we upgrade.
WildWolf2813 wrote:I agree with Eitan. He can be a starter and a very critical part of a team's makeup in terms of intangibles, but that's not the kind of swing you take with the first overall selection.
I agree, Wild. Deni is the sort of prospect you trade down for. On the other hand, you can't just take a big swing at #1. You also have to take a smart swing, and depending on the situation that could be a shorter swing. For example, probably best not to take your hardest swing when facing a knuckleball pitches or even a pitcher with a great curve ball. The problem with this draft is that the three most talented players are somewhat analogous to a knuckleballs, meaning there's a significant chance of a swing and a miss. Some organizations might need to take the big swing under these circumstances. Those would be rebuilding teams that have no all-stars on their rosters. The Wolves currently have two young all-star caliber players. So the Wolves could shorten their swing just a big in this draft to better their chances of hitting a bases clearing double, but still swing hard enough for a home run if they make solid contact. I'm not sure the swing I'm talking about would be Deni. But maybe it's Okongwu. If you believe, as I do, that Okongwu has a very good chance of becoming a Bam Adebayo, then he might be the best pick at #1 even though I'd still be reluctant to make that pick at #1.
At what point does our team focus on getting out of the rebuild? Prospect after prospect.
I want to see players that can play right now alongside Towns and Russell. Ball doesn't fit. Edwards makes the Okogie and Culver situation tough.
I will agree BPA at #1. In my opinion that is Deni or Wiseman.
Okongwu shows few similarities to Bam. That narrative should stop.
I agree, TheFuture. We need players that can play right now alongside Towns and Russell.
Can Wiseman ready to play immediately in the N.B.A. (Haven`t played many games last year)?
As I said, it will take Deny many years to become solid player in the N.B.A.
The best option for us might be to trade the pick for proven (star) player (in his prime) or combination of players that will fit right away with Towns and Russel (I saw a lot of suggestion of that on another thread).
WildWolf2813 wrote:I agree with Eitan. He can be a starter and a very critical part of a team's makeup in terms of intangibles, but that's not the kind of swing you take with the first overall selection.
I agree, Wild. Deni is the sort of prospect you trade down for. On the other hand, you can't just take a big swing at #1. You also have to take a smart swing, and depending on the situation that could be a shorter swing. For example, probably best not to take your hardest swing when facing a knuckleball pitches or even a pitcher with a great curve ball. The problem with this draft is that the three most talented players are somewhat analogous to a knuckleballs, meaning there's a significant chance of a swing and a miss. Some organizations might need to take the big swing under these circumstances. Those would be rebuilding teams that have no all-stars on their rosters. The Wolves currently have two young all-star caliber players. So the Wolves could shorten their swing just a big in this draft to better their chances of hitting a bases clearing double, but still swing hard enough for a home run if they make solid contact. I'm not sure the swing I'm talking about would be Deni. But maybe it's Okongwu. If you believe, as I do, that Okongwu has a very good chance of becoming a Bam Adebayo, then he might be the best pick at #1 even though I'd still be reluctant to make that pick at #1.
At what point does our team focus on getting out of the rebuild? Prospect after prospect.
I want to see players that can play right now alongside Towns and Russell. Ball doesn't fit. Edwards makes the Okogie and Culver situation tough.
I will agree BPA at #1. In my opinion that is Deni or Wiseman.
Okongwu shows few similarities to Bam. That narrative should stop.
I don't think we should be ruling Edwards out because of Okogie or Culver. Okogie has been shown to be a bench player. Culver has not even consistently shown he belongs in the league. Both may have some potential, but if Edwards projects to be a better player than them at the position then we upgrade.
How can we write off Culver after one year (really half a year)? I haven't seen many rookie prospects show defensive potential like Culver did. The amount of strips at the basket are ridiculous.
Remember Lip toting CJ McCollum?
He looked like shit the first 2-3 years. Then became a real 2nd option.
I'm optimistic in our guard positions, which both Okogie and Culver fall into.
I'm comfortable with Russell, JMac, Beasley, Okogie, Culver there.
WildWolf2813 wrote:I agree with Eitan. He can be a starter and a very critical part of a team's makeup in terms of intangibles, but that's not the kind of swing you take with the first overall selection.
I agree, Wild. Deni is the sort of prospect you trade down for. On the other hand, you can't just take a big swing at #1. You also have to take a smart swing, and depending on the situation that could be a shorter swing. For example, probably best not to take your hardest swing when facing a knuckleball pitches or even a pitcher with a great curve ball. The problem with this draft is that the three most talented players are somewhat analogous to a knuckleballs, meaning there's a significant chance of a swing and a miss. Some organizations might need to take the big swing under these circumstances. Those would be rebuilding teams that have no all-stars on their rosters. The Wolves currently have two young all-star caliber players. So the Wolves could shorten their swing just a big in this draft to better their chances of hitting a bases clearing double, but still swing hard enough for a home run if they make solid contact. I'm not sure the swing I'm talking about would be Deni. But maybe it's Okongwu. If you believe, as I do, that Okongwu has a very good chance of becoming a Bam Adebayo, then he might be the best pick at #1 even though I'd still be reluctant to make that pick at #1.
At what point does our team focus on getting out of the rebuild? Prospect after prospect.
I want to see players that can play right now alongside Towns and Russell. Ball doesn't fit. Edwards makes the Okogie and Culver situation tough.
I will agree BPA at #1. In my opinion that is Deni or Wiseman.
Okongwu shows few similarities to Bam. That narrative should stop.
I don't think we should be ruling Edwards out because of Okogie or Culver. Okogie has been shown to be a bench player. Culver has not even consistently shown he belongs in the league. Both may have some potential, but if Edwards projects to be a better player than them at the position then we upgrade.
How can we write off Culver after one year (really half a year)? I haven't seen many rookie prospects show defensive potential like Culver did. The amount of strips at the basket are ridiculous.
Remember Lip toting CJ McCollum?
He looked like shit the first 2-3 years. Then became a real 2nd option.
I'm optimistic in our guard positions, which both Okogie and Culver fall into.
I'm comfortable with Russell, JMac, Beasley, Okogie, Culver there.
The true wing/forward positions are garbage.
I didnt write them off, I said there was potential. But overestimating potential is a problem in this league, in particular for the Wolves. The occasional strip is nice, but neither of these players have shown a real impact on both sides of the floor suggesting they are anything beyond bench players. If Edwards really projects to be a starter (I really dont know if he does but it looks that way reading the scouts take) Josh and Culver shouldnt be getting in the way of taking him. We still need highest talent as we always have, regardless of position. If that means trade great, if that means draft do it.
