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[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Youngest Rosters in the NBA (Team Record):

1. Minnesota Timberwolves: 23.6 (7-21)
2. Charlotte Hornets: 24.1 (13-15)
3. Memphis Grizzlies: 24.4 (11-12)
4. Detroit Pistons: 24.7 (8-19)
5. Boston Celtics: 25.1 (14-13)
6. Denver Nuggets: 25.1 (15-12)
7. New Orleans Pelicans: 25.1 (12-15)
8. Sacramento Kings: 25.2 (12-15)
9. New York Knicks: 25.4 (14-15)
10. Atlanta Hawks: 25.5 (11-16)

We've got to stop talking as if teams aren't winning in the NBA while having a young roster. That's just not the case nor is it a feasible excuse, especially on a team that has multiple first overall picks. Other young teams are figuring it out. Those same teams have head coaches that aren't overwhelmed by the NBA. They're not having to compete through consistently mismanaged games. They aren't making the game more difficult on themselves by forcing players into a particular style of play that doesn't suit them. Spare me from any reasoning or explanations on why Ryan Saunders should get a pass any longer. The guy absolutely sucks at his job and the Wolves should have more wins than they do. That's the end of my rant.

[Lipoli390]

Youngest Rosters in the NBA (Team Record):

1. Minnesota Timberwolves: 23.6 (7-21)
2. Charlotte Hornets: 24.1 (13-15)
3. Memphis Grizzlies: 24.4 (11-12)
4. Detroit Pistons: 24.7 (8-19)
5. Boston Celtics: 25.1 (14-13)
6. Denver Nuggets: 25.1 (15-12)
7. New Orleans Pelicans: 25.1 (12-15)
8. Sacramento Kings: 25.2 (12-15)
9. New York Knicks: 25.4 (14-15)
10. Atlanta Hawks: 25.5 (11-16)

We've got to stop talking as if teams aren't winning in the NBA while having a young roster. That's just not the case nor is it a feasible excuse, especially on a team that has multiple first overall picks. Other young teams are figuring it out. Those same teams have head coaches that aren't overwhelmed by the NBA. They're not having to compete through consistently mismanaged games. They aren't making the game more difficult on themselves by forcing players into a particular style of play that doesn't suit them. Spare me from any reasoning or explanations on why Ryan Saunders should get a pass any longer. The guy absolutely sucks at his job and the Wolves should have more wins than they do. That's the end of my rant.

Well said, Cam. Your rant is on the money.

[Wolvesfan21]

Youngest Rosters in the NBA (Team Record):

1. Minnesota Timberwolves: 23.6 (7-21)
2. Charlotte Hornets: 24.1 (13-15)
3. Memphis Grizzlies: 24.4 (11-12)
4. Detroit Pistons: 24.7 (8-19)
5. Boston Celtics: 25.1 (14-13)
6. Denver Nuggets: 25.1 (15-12)
7. New Orleans Pelicans: 25.1 (12-15)
8. Sacramento Kings: 25.2 (12-15)
9. New York Knicks: 25.4 (14-15)
10. Atlanta Hawks: 25.5 (11-16)

We've got to stop talking as if teams aren't winning in the NBA while having a young roster. That's just not the case nor is it a feasible excuse, especially on a team that has multiple first overall picks. Other young teams are figuring it out. Those same teams have head coaches that aren't overwhelmed by the NBA. They're not having to compete through consistently mismanaged games. They aren't making the game more difficult on themselves by forcing players into a particular style of play that doesn't suit them. Spare me from any reasoning or explanations on why Ryan Saunders should get a pass any longer. The guy absolutely sucks at his job and the Wolves should have more wins than they do. That's the end of my rant.

OK so they are the youngest. Whoever said second was wrong, wherever I heard that. How's that number drop with Ed Davis off it too? He rarely plays and is the oldest I think. So in another year or so they will catch up to number 2 or 3 possibly. Not to mention, there are a bunch of mediocre to bad records on that list. Doesn't really make your point does it?

How would the Wolves record be if Covid didn't hit KAT and Ricky? Ricky no doubt has cost us 3 wins that puts us up to 10. KAT healthy all year is worth 3-4 more. Now you are at 13-15 if not 14-14.

Is the coach bad because those guys got sick? The record is not legitimate because the team simply hasn't been healthy. The first 2 games they were and were 2-0.

So if the Wolves were 14-14 would you say fire Ryan?

[AbeVigodaLive]

Youngest Rosters in the NBA (Team Record):

1. Minnesota Timberwolves: 23.6 (7-21)
2. Charlotte Hornets: 24.1 (13-15)
3. Memphis Grizzlies: 24.4 (11-12)
4. Detroit Pistons: 24.7 (8-19)
5. Boston Celtics: 25.1 (14-13)
6. Denver Nuggets: 25.1 (15-12)
7. New Orleans Pelicans: 25.1 (12-15)
8. Sacramento Kings: 25.2 (12-15)
9. New York Knicks: 25.4 (14-15)
10. Atlanta Hawks: 25.5 (11-16)

We've got to stop talking as if teams aren't winning in the NBA while having a young roster. That's just not the case nor is it a feasible excuse, especially on a team that has multiple first overall picks. Other young teams are figuring it out. Those same teams have head coaches that aren't overwhelmed by the NBA. They're not having to compete through consistently mismanaged games. They aren't making the game more difficult on themselves by forcing players into a particular style of play that doesn't suit them. Spare me from any reasoning or explanations on why Ryan Saunders should get a pass any longer. The guy absolutely sucks at his job and the Wolves should have more wins than they do. That's the end of my rant.

OK so they are the youngest. Whoever said second was wrong, wherever I heard that. How's that number drop with Ed Davis off it too? He rarely plays and is the oldest I think. So in another year or so they will catch up to number 2 or 3 possibly. Not to mention, there are a bunch of mediocre to bad records on that list. Doesn't really make your point does it?

How would the Wolves record be if Covid didn't hit KAT and Ricky? Ricky no doubt has cost us 3 wins that puts us up to 10. KAT healthy all year is worth 3-4 more. Now you are at 13-15 if not 14-14.

Is the coach bad because those guys got sick? The record is not legitimate because the team simply hasn't been healthy. The first 2 games they were and were 2-0.

So if the Wolves were 14-14 would you say fire Ryan?

It's a shame that the Timberwolves are the only team battling injuries and COVID.

[Wolvesfan21]

Youngest Rosters in the NBA (Team Record):

1. Minnesota Timberwolves: 23.6 (7-21)
2. Charlotte Hornets: 24.1 (13-15)
3. Memphis Grizzlies: 24.4 (11-12)
4. Detroit Pistons: 24.7 (8-19)
5. Boston Celtics: 25.1 (14-13)
6. Denver Nuggets: 25.1 (15-12)
7. New Orleans Pelicans: 25.1 (12-15)
8. Sacramento Kings: 25.2 (12-15)
9. New York Knicks: 25.4 (14-15)
10. Atlanta Hawks: 25.5 (11-16)

We've got to stop talking as if teams aren't winning in the NBA while having a young roster. That's just not the case nor is it a feasible excuse, especially on a team that has multiple first overall picks. Other young teams are figuring it out. Those same teams have head coaches that aren't overwhelmed by the NBA. They're not having to compete through consistently mismanaged games. They aren't making the game more difficult on themselves by forcing players into a particular style of play that doesn't suit them. Spare me from any reasoning or explanations on why Ryan Saunders should get a pass any longer. The guy absolutely sucks at his job and the Wolves should have more wins than they do. That's the end of my rant.

OK so they are the youngest. Whoever said second was wrong, wherever I heard that. How's that number drop with Ed Davis off it too? He rarely plays and is the oldest I think. So in another year or so they will catch up to number 2 or 3 possibly. Not to mention, there are a bunch of mediocre to bad records on that list. Doesn't really make your point does it?

How would the Wolves record be if Covid didn't hit KAT and Ricky? Ricky no doubt has cost us 3 wins that puts us up to 10. KAT healthy all year is worth 3-4 more. Now you are at 13-15 if not 14-14.

Is the coach bad because those guys got sick? The record is not legitimate because the team simply hasn't been healthy. The first 2 games they were and were 2-0.

So if the Wolves were 14-14 would you say fire Ryan?

It's a shame that the Timberwolves are the only team battling injuries and COVID.

Some have had Covid but MOST have not at all. Injuries sure. You're being irrational if you think rookies and g-leaguers should be winning half their games. I guess being a fan makes us that way many times.

I'm not even saying Ryan is a good or great coach, I'm saying the coaching doesn't matter all that much, that even Ryan who has been in the NBA since 2009 can do a good enough job. You point to the record but fail to address all the other real issues and problems. It's a myopic view, shortsighted.

[FNG]

Youngest Rosters in the NBA (Team Record):

1. Minnesota Timberwolves: 23.6 (7-21)
2. Charlotte Hornets: 24.1 (13-15)
3. Memphis Grizzlies: 24.4 (11-12)
4. Detroit Pistons: 24.7 (8-19)
5. Boston Celtics: 25.1 (14-13)
6. Denver Nuggets: 25.1 (15-12)
7. New Orleans Pelicans: 25.1 (12-15)
8. Sacramento Kings: 25.2 (12-15)
9. New York Knicks: 25.4 (14-15)
10. Atlanta Hawks: 25.5 (11-16)

We've got to stop talking as if teams aren't winning in the NBA while having a young roster. That's just not the case nor is it a feasible excuse, especially on a team that has multiple first overall picks. Other young teams are figuring it out. Those same teams have head coaches that aren't overwhelmed by the NBA. They're not having to compete through consistently mismanaged games. They aren't making the game more difficult on themselves by forcing players into a particular style of play that doesn't suit them. Spare me from any reasoning or explanations on why Ryan Saunders should get a pass any longer. The guy absolutely sucks at his job and the Wolves should have more wins than they do. That's the end of my rant.

OK so they are the youngest. Whoever said second was wrong, wherever I heard that. How's that number drop with Ed Davis off it too? He rarely plays and is the oldest I think. So in another year or so they will catch up to number 2 or 3 possibly. Not to mention, there are a bunch of mediocre to bad records on that list. Doesn't really make your point does it?

How would the Wolves record be if Covid didn't hit KAT and Ricky? Ricky no doubt has cost us 3 wins that puts us up to 10. KAT healthy all year is worth 3-4 more. Now you are at 13-15 if not 14-14.

Is the coach bad because those guys got sick? The record is not legitimate because the team simply hasn't been healthy. The first 2 games they were and were 2-0.

So if the Wolves were 14-14 would you say fire Ryan?

It's a shame that the Timberwolves are the only team battling injuries and COVID.

Ha, fair point...injuries/illness are part of the game. But let me try this angle in a shameless attempt to provide some cover for Saunders. Is there a team that has had more "games lost by lottery players" than the Wolves? With the mounting games lost by KAT, DLO, Culver, I would guess only GS with Klay and Wiseman might be close. But I would also guess that we might be double any other team. I don't know how anyone can really say what a healthy Wolves roster would be like, because we have had nothing even close to that.

[AbeVigodaLive]

Youngest Rosters in the NBA (Team Record):

1. Minnesota Timberwolves: 23.6 (7-21)
2. Charlotte Hornets: 24.1 (13-15)
3. Memphis Grizzlies: 24.4 (11-12)
4. Detroit Pistons: 24.7 (8-19)
5. Boston Celtics: 25.1 (14-13)
6. Denver Nuggets: 25.1 (15-12)
7. New Orleans Pelicans: 25.1 (12-15)
8. Sacramento Kings: 25.2 (12-15)
9. New York Knicks: 25.4 (14-15)
10. Atlanta Hawks: 25.5 (11-16)

We've got to stop talking as if teams aren't winning in the NBA while having a young roster. That's just not the case nor is it a feasible excuse, especially on a team that has multiple first overall picks. Other young teams are figuring it out. Those same teams have head coaches that aren't overwhelmed by the NBA. They're not having to compete through consistently mismanaged games. They aren't making the game more difficult on themselves by forcing players into a particular style of play that doesn't suit them. Spare me from any reasoning or explanations on why Ryan Saunders should get a pass any longer. The guy absolutely sucks at his job and the Wolves should have more wins than they do. That's the end of my rant.

OK so they are the youngest. Whoever said second was wrong, wherever I heard that. How's that number drop with Ed Davis off it too? He rarely plays and is the oldest I think. So in another year or so they will catch up to number 2 or 3 possibly. Not to mention, there are a bunch of mediocre to bad records on that list. Doesn't really make your point does it?

How would the Wolves record be if Covid didn't hit KAT and Ricky? Ricky no doubt has cost us 3 wins that puts us up to 10. KAT healthy all year is worth 3-4 more. Now you are at 13-15 if not 14-14.

Is the coach bad because those guys got sick? The record is not legitimate because the team simply hasn't been healthy. The first 2 games they were and were 2-0.

So if the Wolves were 14-14 would you say fire Ryan?

It's a shame that the Timberwolves are the only team battling injuries and COVID.

Some have had Covid but MOST have not at all. Injuries sure. You're being irrational if you think rookies and g-leaguers should be winning half their games. I guess being a fan makes us that way many times.

I'm not even saying Ryan is a good or great coach, I'm saying the coaching doesn't matter all that much, that even Ryan who has been in the NBA since 2009 can do a good enough job. You point to the record but fail to address all the other real issues and problems. It's a myopic view, shortsighted.

Did you quote the wrong post?

Most of this is woefully off-the-mark from what I wrote... or have written on this site.

[Wolvesfan21]

Youngest Rosters in the NBA (Team Record):

1. Minnesota Timberwolves: 23.6 (7-21)
2. Charlotte Hornets: 24.1 (13-15)
3. Memphis Grizzlies: 24.4 (11-12)
4. Detroit Pistons: 24.7 (8-19)
5. Boston Celtics: 25.1 (14-13)
6. Denver Nuggets: 25.1 (15-12)
7. New Orleans Pelicans: 25.1 (12-15)
8. Sacramento Kings: 25.2 (12-15)
9. New York Knicks: 25.4 (14-15)
10. Atlanta Hawks: 25.5 (11-16)

We've got to stop talking as if teams aren't winning in the NBA while having a young roster. That's just not the case nor is it a feasible excuse, especially on a team that has multiple first overall picks. Other young teams are figuring it out. Those same teams have head coaches that aren't overwhelmed by the NBA. They're not having to compete through consistently mismanaged games. They aren't making the game more difficult on themselves by forcing players into a particular style of play that doesn't suit them. Spare me from any reasoning or explanations on why Ryan Saunders should get a pass any longer. The guy absolutely sucks at his job and the Wolves should have more wins than they do. That's the end of my rant.

OK so they are the youngest. Whoever said second was wrong, wherever I heard that. How's that number drop with Ed Davis off it too? He rarely plays and is the oldest I think. So in another year or so they will catch up to number 2 or 3 possibly. Not to mention, there are a bunch of mediocre to bad records on that list. Doesn't really make your point does it?

How would the Wolves record be if Covid didn't hit KAT and Ricky? Ricky no doubt has cost us 3 wins that puts us up to 10. KAT healthy all year is worth 3-4 more. Now you are at 13-15 if not 14-14.

Is the coach bad because those guys got sick? The record is not legitimate because the team simply hasn't been healthy. The first 2 games they were and were 2-0.

So if the Wolves were 14-14 would you say fire Ryan?

It's a shame that the Timberwolves are the only team battling injuries and COVID.

Some have had Covid but MOST have not at all. Injuries sure. You're being irrational if you think rookies and g-leaguers should be winning half their games. I guess being a fan makes us that way many times.

I'm not even saying Ryan is a good or great coach, I'm saying the coaching doesn't matter all that much, that even Ryan who has been in the NBA since 2009 can do a good enough job. You point to the record but fail to address all the other real issues and problems. It's a myopic view, shortsighted.

Did you quote the wrong post?

Most of this is woefully off-the-mark from what I wrote... or have written on this site.

So you agree Ryan is in a no win position, at least thus far. Yeah I mean it is realistic to be patient and pay attention to the timeline.

[AbeVigodaLive]

Youngest Rosters in the NBA (Team Record):

1. Minnesota Timberwolves: 23.6 (7-21)
2. Charlotte Hornets: 24.1 (13-15)
3. Memphis Grizzlies: 24.4 (11-12)
4. Detroit Pistons: 24.7 (8-19)
5. Boston Celtics: 25.1 (14-13)
6. Denver Nuggets: 25.1 (15-12)
7. New Orleans Pelicans: 25.1 (12-15)
8. Sacramento Kings: 25.2 (12-15)
9. New York Knicks: 25.4 (14-15)
10. Atlanta Hawks: 25.5 (11-16)

We've got to stop talking as if teams aren't winning in the NBA while having a young roster. That's just not the case nor is it a feasible excuse, especially on a team that has multiple first overall picks. Other young teams are figuring it out. Those same teams have head coaches that aren't overwhelmed by the NBA. They're not having to compete through consistently mismanaged games. They aren't making the game more difficult on themselves by forcing players into a particular style of play that doesn't suit them. Spare me from any reasoning or explanations on why Ryan Saunders should get a pass any longer. The guy absolutely sucks at his job and the Wolves should have more wins than they do. That's the end of my rant.

OK so they are the youngest. Whoever said second was wrong, wherever I heard that. How's that number drop with Ed Davis off it too? He rarely plays and is the oldest I think. So in another year or so they will catch up to number 2 or 3 possibly. Not to mention, there are a bunch of mediocre to bad records on that list. Doesn't really make your point does it?

How would the Wolves record be if Covid didn't hit KAT and Ricky? Ricky no doubt has cost us 3 wins that puts us up to 10. KAT healthy all year is worth 3-4 more. Now you are at 13-15 if not 14-14.

Is the coach bad because those guys got sick? The record is not legitimate because the team simply hasn't been healthy. The first 2 games they were and were 2-0.

So if the Wolves were 14-14 would you say fire Ryan?

It's a shame that the Timberwolves are the only team battling injuries and COVID.

Some have had Covid but MOST have not at all. Injuries sure. You're being irrational if you think rookies and g-leaguers should be winning half their games. I guess being a fan makes us that way many times.

I'm not even saying Ryan is a good or great coach, I'm saying the coaching doesn't matter all that much, that even Ryan who has been in the NBA since 2009 can do a good enough job. You point to the record but fail to address all the other real issues and problems. It's a myopic view, shortsighted.

Did you quote the wrong post?

Most of this is woefully off-the-mark from what I wrote... or have written on this site.

So you agree Ryan is in a no win position, at least thus far. Yeah I mean it is realistic to be patient and pay attention to the timeline.

I don't know what you're talking about with the timeline... or patience or realistic.

[Leado01]

Our mean age is 23.6 (with Rubio and Ed Davis driving that number up). Crappy Eastern Conference Celtics have a mean number 1.5 years older... Denver IS the exception here.

Our mode age is 19 or 20 which is probably more important ... and I do believe (hope) that there are folks in our front office that recognize there's zero hope of ever winning when you continually turn to more youth.

I'm not a Ryan fan. But this franchise will have to build from within and make infrequent strategic free agency moves to stand a chance at being consistently competitive.

I still propose a WWPD approach on building and development and now that we're seeing some actual player development I'm not convinced that dumping Ryan buys us anything in the long run (what would popavich do?).