DLO + GSW 1st rounder unprotected this year + Salary fillers (Looney, Stein, Poole)
The Wolves do that trade, GS points and laughs!
So GSW wouldn't do that you are saying? Maybe not but I actually think both players would excel (relatively) in their system.
Maybe I'm wrong but DLO for Wiggins is at best an even swap, at worst the Wolves win. If that is correct then we're talking a high, unprotected lottery pick for Roco and that seem excessive to me. Even if you feel GS wins the Wiggins for DLO swap by a little I don't see them throwing in their lottery pick.
Wiggins has been better this year, but he's still upside down versus his contract IMO.
DLO + GSW 1st rounder unprotected this year + Salary fillers (Looney, Stein, Poole)
The Wolves do that trade, GS points and laughs!
So GSW wouldn't do that you are saying? Maybe not but I actually think both players would excel (relatively) in their system.
Maybe I'm wrong but DLO for Wiggins is at best an even swap, at worst the Wolves win. If that is correct then we're talking a high, unprotected lottery pick for Roco and that seem excessive to me. Even if you feel GS wins the Wiggins for DLO swap by a little I don't see them throwing in their lottery pick.
Wiggins has been better this year, but he's still upside down versus his contract IMO.
I agree that Wiggins for DLO is basically even. Both are overpaid and have their issues.
RoCo has been acquired about by several teams though AND we'd be taking on some of their junk bench salary which is really a minus. RoCo also is in more demand then I think you are giving him credit for.
GSW doesn't have much use for a young rookie player anyways when their others guys are all 30ish and ready to win now, when they could get a proven elite defensive player instead.
Is this draft even that good? I haven't seen any Zion or Morants coming up. So it could be a flop anyways.
The Warriors aren't gonna pay over 100 million in luxury tax for Steph, Klay, Wiggins and Draymond. They need cap relief from a Russel trade which is why Covington paired with Teague made sense. Wiggins for Russel isn't happening.
khans2k5 wrote:The Warriors aren't gonna pay over 100 million in luxury tax for Steph, Klay, Wiggins and Draymond. They need cap relief from a Russel trade which is why Covington paired with Teague made sense. Wiggins for Russel isn't happening.
It could, I posted the idea of Butler for Saric and RoCo and someone on here said that is not happening either. Was that you? lol
Well my actual idea included DIeng and Fultz as well. Man it would be nice to have Fultz now. I admit it was a total flyer on Fultz, but we needed and still could really use a PG (Is Culver really a primary PG or not?)!
khans2k5 wrote:The Warriors aren't gonna pay over 100 million in luxury tax for Steph, Klay, Wiggins and Draymond. They need cap relief from a Russel trade which is why Covington paired with Teague made sense. Wiggins for Russel isn't happening.
It could, I posted the idea of Butler for Saric and RoCo and someone on here said that is not happening either. Was that you? lol
Well my actual idea included DIeng and Fultz as well. Man it would be nice to have Fultz now. I admit it was a total flyer on Fultz, but we needed and still could really use a PG (Is Culver really a primary PG or not?)!
I find it real hard to compare Butler for Saric and Covington to Wiggins potentially adding 100 million in tax money on the same level. This board doesn't even like Wiggins and that deal would be essentially be the Warriors trading for the opportunity to pay 130 million dollars.
khans2k5 wrote:The Warriors aren't gonna pay over 100 million in luxury tax for Steph, Klay, Wiggins and Draymond. They need cap relief from a Russel trade which is why Covington paired with Teague made sense. Wiggins for Russel isn't happening.
It could, I posted the idea of Butler for Saric and RoCo and someone on here said that is not happening either. Was that you? lol
Well my actual idea included DIeng and Fultz as well. Man it would be nice to have Fultz now. I admit it was a total flyer on Fultz, but we needed and still could really use a PG (Is Culver really a primary PG or not?)!
I find it real hard to compare Butler for Saric and Covington to Wiggins potentially adding 100 million in tax money on the same level. This board doesn't even like Wiggins and that deal would be essentially be the Warriors trading for the opportunity to pay 130 million dollars.
Their owner has been one to pay luxury tax and not seem to mind from what I have heard, I'm sure the sellouts for added revenue, all the merchandise, all the playoff revenue makes up for most of it, heck maybe he makes money still versus running a low cost business. Merchandise sales can be huge with all the kids wearing Steph jerseys and the like.
The proposed cost is actually less too since they wouldn't be paying the Rookie 8 million a year or whatever.
Wiggins and Roco is 38 million I think.
1st rounder plus DLO plus fill ins for salary match is 44-46 million.
Oh and this board doesn't like DLO either. Maybe a couple do.
khans2k5 wrote:The Warriors aren't gonna pay over 100 million in luxury tax for Steph, Klay, Wiggins and Draymond. They need cap relief from a Russel trade which is why Covington paired with Teague made sense. Wiggins for Russel isn't happening.
It could, I posted the idea of Butler for Saric and RoCo and someone on here said that is not happening either. Was that you? lol
Well my actual idea included DIeng and Fultz as well. Man it would be nice to have Fultz now. I admit it was a total flyer on Fultz, but we needed and still could really use a PG (Is Culver really a primary PG or not?)!
The Wolves absolutely should have pursued Fultz last season. This organization should focus intensely on finding and acquiring young high-upside players should are struggling in the first couple years out of college. Dennis Smith falls into that category.
khans2k5 wrote:The Warriors aren't gonna pay over 100 million in luxury tax for Steph, Klay, Wiggins and Draymond. They need cap relief from a Russel trade which is why Covington paired with Teague made sense. Wiggins for Russel isn't happening.
It could, I posted the idea of Butler for Saric and RoCo and someone on here said that is not happening either. Was that you? lol
Well my actual idea included DIeng and Fultz as well. Man it would be nice to have Fultz now. I admit it was a total flyer on Fultz, but we needed and still could really use a PG (Is Culver really a primary PG or not?)!
The Wolves absolutely should have pursued Fultz last season. This organization should focus intensely on finding and acquiring young high-upside players should are struggling in the first couple years out of college. Dennis Smith falls into that category.
Yep, it makes sense to take on young guys who have fallen out of flavor. Especially ones who are what 21-22? You're right that many teams and fans for that matter are too quick to call a player a bust. I like the guy who needs to prove himself and still young. He has motivation to stay in the league. They don't want to go overseas and take a 80% pay cut and try and learn Chinese or something.
khans2k5 wrote:The Warriors aren't gonna pay over 100 million in luxury tax for Steph, Klay, Wiggins and Draymond. They need cap relief from a Russel trade which is why Covington paired with Teague made sense. Wiggins for Russel isn't happening.
It could, I posted the idea of Butler for Saric and RoCo and someone on here said that is not happening either. Was that you? lol
Well my actual idea included DIeng and Fultz as well. Man it would be nice to have Fultz now. I admit it was a total flyer on Fultz, but we needed and still could really use a PG (Is Culver really a primary PG or not?)!
The Wolves absolutely should have pursued Fultz last season. This organization should focus intensely on finding and acquiring young high-upside players should are struggling in the first couple years out of college. Dennis Smith falls into that category.
Yep, it makes sense to take on young guys who have fallen out of flavor. Especially ones who are what 21-22? You're right that many teams and fans for that matter are too quick to call a player a bust. I like the guy who needs to prove himself and still young. He has motivation to stay in the league. They don't want to go overseas and take a 80% pay cut and try and learn Chinese or something.
Whoa, this is a very easy example to cite now,,,,,talk about hindsight. The reality on Fultz a year ago was that he was as close to complete mental meltdown as I have seen in a player. He was flat out broken. His salary was the reason teams weren't showing interest. It seemed 50/50 he would even play again. He is due $10M this season and $12M next. Let's not pretend it was obvious not to jump on this guy. And he still can't shoot a 3 at all...I get the premise, but this example seems poor example.
