Somebody Call an Amber Lamps

[TAFKASP]

If there are no consequences for your "words" then people could literally say anything and get away with it and that's not ok.

There are consequences to words in terms of libel and/or slander, but those are legal consequences.

"Don't let your mouth write a check your body can't cash" has been around since the 60's so it shouldn't be that foreign to you that people fight over words.

I'm pretty sure the concept has been around a lot longer than since the 60's. That people fight over words is not surprising, that they're stupid enough to do so is.

There have to be consequences to your actions or this country would just be filled with instigating ass holes spewing bull shit out of their mouths 24/7 because they could knowing nothing would be done to them. I don't want to live in that world.

That's hilarious! Bring on the wild west, don't even consider holding people to a higher standard! As a highly public figure he has a responsibility to the 6ers and the NBA to act in a professional manner, both on the court and off and he's failing miserably. He's a fucking 20 year old millionaire, there should be zero words from typical street punks that get any response other than a shrug and laugh. You know damn well the NBA sits rookies down and talks to them about how these types of people will try to bait them into a fight with their sole purpose being to extort a settlement out of them, and yet Okafor has shown already a few times he's not smart enough to just walk away.

I hope the kid gets his head on straight, but I would be extremely worried if I were the 6ers, if silly words cause the types of reactions we've seen of late what is a couple years or more of on court ineptitude going to do to his attitude? And they should be concerned as there is absolutely no evidence that the 6ers are an organization well positioned to guide a troubled young talent toward being a mature adult.

[AbeVigodaLive]

Speaking of consequences for talking trash...

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

I would expect there to be consequences to my actions of punching a dude in the face if I ever did that. That's what I have to consider as a consequence before doing it just as they have to consider a consequence of talking shit is getting knocked out. When everyone respects the consequences we don't have this problem and the fight never has to take place, but if there is no consequence to the instigating action then there's no reason for it to ever stop. For this Okafor incident I would hope they treat it for what it was which was a bar fight where both parties are at fault and you just call it a day. Assault charges are warranted when one party is at fault for something like this like if Okafor just sucker punched the guy for no reason, but if both parties are going at it and one just happens to win the fight, that shouldn't mean that one is the only one who gets charged and has to deal with the consequences. Okafor didn't knock him out right away. They wrestled to a store front first before the guy got knocked out so both parties participated in the fight and you either have to charge both or neither.

What are the consequences when you try to punch a guy in the face and you get knocked out instead? Okafor is lucky. I'm sure plenty of us have been in after bar fights during our younger years. It becomes a sucker punch fest. Dudes have no problem jacking a guy when he's not looking. Those that live in MN are probably familiar with the bar fight in Mankato with Philip Nelson. Sucker punch almost killed a guy and I don't think he'll ever be the same. Like I wrote earlier...fighting as a kid - no big deal. You just get a bloody nose and a ripped shirt. But as adults? You can seriously hurt or even kill people with just a punch. Real fights are no joke. It doesn't make sense to put yourself in that situation IMO.

The guy Okafor knocked out is a grown adult who instigated the fight and threw a punch. He doesn't deserve protection and sympathy because he picked a fight with the wrong guy. He's an adult. Let's stop treating him like a victim.

[Carlos Danger]

The guy Okafor knocked out is a grown adult who instigated the fight and threw a punch. He doesn't deserve protection and sympathy because he picked a fight with the wrong guy. He's an adult. Let's stop treating him like a victim.

Khans - I'm with you that the lippy little b@stard probably had it coming. I have absolutely no doubt that he was yapping away thinking "you can't touch me". He was mistaken. Same thing happened to the guy that threw at beer at Ron Artest. Whoops - he probably pooped himself when World Peace started making his way up into the stands to kick is @ss. But I've read many of your posts and know you are not a stupid guy. I know you don't really believe that it's OK for professional athletes to respond in that manner. At the end of the day - they'll be the ones in more trouble than the big mouth fan. Pro athletes have millions of dollars, pretty women and fame. It's a pretty fair trade off for having to deal with an occasional jackhole.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

The guy Okafor knocked out is a grown adult who instigated the fight and threw a punch. He doesn't deserve protection and sympathy because he picked a fight with the wrong guy. He's an adult. Let's stop treating him like a victim.

Khans - I'm with you that the lippy little b@stard probably had it coming. I have absolutely no doubt that he was yapping away thinking "you can't touch me". He was mistaken. Same thing happened to the guy that threw at beer at Ron Artest. Whoops - he probably pooped himself when World Peace started making his way up into the stands to kick is @ss. But I've read many of your posts and know you are not a stupid guy. I know you don't really believe that it's OK for professional athletes to respond in that manner. At the end of the day - they'll be the ones in more trouble than the big mouth fan. Pro athletes have millions of dollars, pretty women and fame. It's a pretty fair trade off for having to deal with an occasional jackhole.

I think there's a breaking point where it is absolutely ok for an athlete to respond. I have no idea if that point was actually reached in this altercation or not, but I don't believe athletes should be paralyzed to respond to guys like this either just because they are professional athletes. Okafor had a gun pulled on him in his first altercation. Do you think that's an ok time to respond? I do. I typically side with the athletes in these altercations. If you flip it, this other grown man was picking on a drunk 19 year old. That's not ok either so if the occasional ass hole gets knocked out I'm fine with it. It's not the wild west, but the option should be there if a line is crossed. Okafor got suspended two games, he has a bigger target on his back for instigators like this and he'll probably have to pay this one off so he's going to face the consequences of doing this so I'm just not in favor of piling on him more by saying he should be above this when he's a 19 year old kid.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Karl-Anthony wouldn't hurt a fly...

[Coolbreeze44]

Karl-Anthony wouldn't hurt a fly...

He could swat one though

[TAFKASP]

Karl-Anthony wouldn't hurt a fly...

He could swat one though

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[Phenom]

So. . ."What's up den?"

[Carlos Danger]

So. . ."What's up den?"

LOL. Yep. That's probably the point where the loud mouth pooped himself a little bit. What sort of defense strategy can your average guy deploy to combat a pissed off 7 foot, 300 lber? I would have gone into full "turtle mode" myself - just like if a grizzly bear attacks me.