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Re: I hope we do ot do teh GS deal
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:38 pm
by worldK
CoolBreeze44 wrote:Guys, Parsons is not the player Thompson is.
Agree. Klay is better at both ends of the court. They are not getting a similar type of contract.
Im not on board to a deal with both the warriors or rockets.
Re: I hope we do ot do teh GS deal
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:40 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
khans, are you listening to yourself right now? "We aren't a contender. Get over it." Your idea only stalls the rebuild, which is inevitable. Getting Bosh means we won't be a contender for even longer. So, why put it off? Young assets > All-Star player who's on the back five of his prime. This is one of the same reasons I don't want David Lee. Doesn't move this team in the right direction for the future.
The East has been weaker than the West for the last 15 years. I don't wanna hear about Bosh carrying Toronto and Love not carrying Minnesota. Al Jefferson carried the Bobcats to the playoffs. He's a real winner... (please catch the sarcasm)
Bosh wants to win/contend for championships. That's obvious when you check his attitude. Willing to take $15M-ish to stay in Miami. Those near max contracts in Chicago and Houston are a whole hell of a lot more enticing than several more million in Minnesota. He gets his money and a title contender. Absurd to say he'd rather have a few more million and throw away contender status.
"Sure MN isn't top of his list probably"
Argument over. You said everything that needed to be said in eight words. He's opted out already. He's a free agent. He doesn't have to come to Minnesota. He could go wherever the fuck he wants. Of course we're not at the top of his list.
PS: You didn't discuss the idea that Bosh could get his max contract and play with Melo in New York/Los Angeles. Just another idea that is more attractive to a player like him. C'mon man. Stop this nonsense.
Re: I hope we do ot do teh GS deal
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:47 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
CoolBreeze44 wrote:Guys, Parsons is not the player Thompson is.
You're right. Parsons is better. More efficient scorer, while still being a good three-point shooter in his own right. Better rebounder. Better playmaker. Rebounding and assists rate are nearly doubled, as are wins produced. You can say Thompson's a better defender, but the gap between the two is minimal.
Re: I hope we do ot do teh GS deal
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:48 pm
by Phenom
I am not really advocating Parsons though. I far and away prefer Thompson. I still think they will get similar contracts.
Re: I hope we do ot do teh GS deal
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:05 am
by m4gor [enjin:6667447]
Camden wrote:CoolBreeze44 wrote:Guys, Parsons is not the player Thompson is.
You're right. Parsons is better. More efficient scorer, while still being a good three-point shooter in his own right. Better rebounder. Better playmaker. Rebounding and assists rate are nearly doubled, as are wins produced. You can say Thompson's a better defender, but the gap between the two is minimal.
I am not ecstatic about either of them, though comparing their rebounding is not really fair imho, as Parsons is 6'9 SF and Thompson is i think 6'6 SG if i remember this well
Re: I hope we do ot do teh GS deal
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:07 am
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
m4gor wrote:Camden wrote:CoolBreeze44 wrote:Guys, Parsons is not the player Thompson is.
You're right. Parsons is better. More efficient scorer, while still being a good three-point shooter in his own right. Better rebounder. Better playmaker. Rebounding and assists rate are nearly doubled, as are wins produced. You can say Thompson's a better defender, but the gap between the two is minimal.
I am not ecstatic about either of them, though comparing their rebounding is not really fair imho, as Parsons is 6'9 SF and Thompson is i think 6'6 SG if i remember this well
Not fair to compare wing player to wing player? The things they do well? Basketball is still basketball.
Re: I hope we do ot do teh GS deal
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:14 am
by m4gor [enjin:6667447]
Camden wrote:m4gor wrote:Camden wrote:CoolBreeze44 wrote:Guys, Parsons is not the player Thompson is.
You're right. Parsons is better. More efficient scorer, while still being a good three-point shooter in his own right. Better rebounder. Better playmaker. Rebounding and assists rate are nearly doubled, as are wins produced. You can say Thompson's a better defender, but the gap between the two is minimal.
I am not ecstatic about either of them, though comparing their rebounding is not really fair imho, as Parsons is 6'9 SF and Thompson is i think 6'6 SG if i remember this well
Not fair to compare wing player to wing player? The things they do well? Basketball is still basketball.
You dont understand that there is a diffence between a guy who is 6'10 with shoes playing SF and someone 6'6-6'7 playing SG? ..
Re: I hope we do ot do teh GS deal
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:19 am
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
m4gor wrote:Camden wrote:m4gor wrote:Camden wrote:CoolBreeze44 wrote:Guys, Parsons is not the player Thompson is.
You're right. Parsons is better. More efficient scorer, while still being a good three-point shooter in his own right. Better rebounder. Better playmaker. Rebounding and assists rate are nearly doubled, as are wins produced. You can say Thompson's a better defender, but the gap between the two is minimal.
I am not ecstatic about either of them, though comparing their rebounding is not really fair imho, as Parsons is 6'9 SF and Thompson is i think 6'6 SG if i remember this well
Not fair to compare wing player to wing player? The things they do well? Basketball is still basketball.
You dont understand that there is a diffence between a guy who is 6'10 with shoes playing SF and someone 6'6-6'7 playing SG? ..
Wings are interchangeable. Depending on the matchup, I've seen Golden State play Thompson at small forward plenty of times. Not really a big deal, though. Still have to get the rebounds and all I said was Parsons is better at doing so, which is true. I guess we'll throw away his assist rate too because he's 6'10... And his 47% shooting from the field.
Re: I hope we do ot do teh GS deal
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:39 am
by m4gor [enjin:6667447]
Camden wrote:m4gor wrote:Camden wrote:m4gor wrote:Camden wrote:CoolBreeze44 wrote:Guys, Parsons is not the player Thompson is.
You're right. Parsons is better. More efficient scorer, while still being a good three-point shooter in his own right. Better rebounder. Better playmaker. Rebounding and assists rate are nearly doubled, as are wins produced. You can say Thompson's a better defender, but the gap between the two is minimal.
I am not ecstatic about either of them, though comparing their rebounding is not really fair imho, as Parsons is 6'9 SF and Thompson is i think 6'6 SG if i remember this well
Not fair to compare wing player to wing player? The things they do well? Basketball is still basketball.
You dont understand that there is a diffence between a guy who is 6'10 with shoes playing SF and someone 6'6-6'7 playing SG? ..
Wings are interchangeable. Depending on the matchup, I've seen Golden State play Thompson at small forward plenty of times. Not really a big deal, though. Still have to get the rebounds and all I said was Parsons is better at doing so, which is true. I guess we'll throw away his assist rate too because he's 6'10... And his 47% shooting from the field.
Well i guess there is not much sense to argue with you, but truth is that Parsons was 33th among SFs when it comes to rebounding rate per48 last season, and K.Thompson was 47th among SGs when it comes to rebounding rate per 48. So yeah Parsons is pretty bad at this category and Thompson is even worse. Btw. Brewer was dead last among SFs
Re: I hope we do ot do teh GS deal
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:47 am
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
Here I was just comparing Parsons to Thompson... An isolated comparison between two players. Sometimes this board loses focus too often.