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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2023-24 WINS PREDICTION THREAD***

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 7:31 am
by Q-is-here
Lipoli390 wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:56 pm
FNG wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 6:20 pm Q, put me down for whatever Lip picks.
Hilarious posts, Q!

I was thrilled when Michael Jordan retired after hitting the big shot to win game 6 against Utah to secure his sixth championship. I was sad to see him return several years later as an overweight 38 year old shell of his former self. Just like MJ back in 1998, this is probably the right time for me to retire from the Wolves season wins prediction thread. If I retire now, I go out on top as the first back-to-back winner in Wolves message board history. It’s a record that will probably never be matched, much less broken. Nevertheless, it’s hard to resist the lure of a possible three-peat. You mentioned the dopamine rush that comes from a winning the annual wins thread projection. It’s a powerful force.

So against my better judgment, and to avoid an asterisk, I will stay in the game for one more season - one more chance to secure my place among the immortal greats of Timberwolves message board lore. My projection for 2023-24? 44 wins. I agree for the most part with Wild Wolf’s analysis, and I also agree with him that he’s being overly generous in projecting 45 wins. So I’m coming in one less at 44.

On paper, this team should be better than 44 wins. But there’s something missing, which is what WildWolf was getting at. It’s the intangibles. It’s coach Finch saying, “we have to find an identify.” This team had an identity two years ago as a young, high-energy, offensive scoring machine with a scrappy defense that was good enough to win 46 games even though KAT was the only all-star caliber player on the team at the time. The Gobert deal obliterated that identity. When you enter a season wondering who you are as a team, that doesn’t bode well. It’s coach Finch and TC expressing uncertainty about whether the KAT/Rudy tandem will work and coach Finch saying they have to provide more structure and figure out how to make it work. Again, that doesn’t bode well in my view. Then there’s Finch saying they have to rediscover the chemistry between KAT and Ant that existed two years ago. It’s relying on a 35 year old PG with a history of missing lots of games due to injury and no clear starting caliber PG behind him. It’s losing Prince and relying on largely untested young players for bench support. Overall, this team seems to be missing a spark and lacking toughness.

In spite of all those uncertainties and intangibles, the Wolves should still win 44 games on sheer talent if their key players (KAT, Edwards and Jaden) remain healthy. But that will mean the play-in tournament for the Wolves and it will be a profound disappointment for a franchise that went all in last summer on a win-now deal that mortgaged the team’s future and robbed it of essential transactional and financial flexibility. If the intangibles turn positive, this is a team that can win 50+ games. But if not, this is a team that could end up with a win total in the 30s with some key injuries and Abe will be in a position to capture his first win projection title.

Although I’m projecting 44 wins, I’ll be rooting for Cool and others predicting 50+ wins. If they end up on top (or even better Tim gets his first title) then I’ll retire next summer as a bloated, resentful old has-been who should have gone out on top.
Lip, You are a scholar and a gentleman. The eloquence in which you articulate your position on such weighty matters is an inspiration to the 13 of us that frequent this board on a regular basis. Every time I read something from you, I feel slightly less dumb. Your wisdom will be missed in future Wins Prediction threads!

Now, onto your prediction. I kind of agree that the identify of this team is a bit of a mystery. I think a case could be made that their identity will be forged on the defensive side of the floor, but even that gets wonky because the team has to play defense in different ways depending on if Rudy is in the game or not.

Re: ***OFFICIAL 2023-24 WINS PREDICTION THREAD***

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 7:37 am
by Q-is-here
KiwiMatt wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:39 pm As the honorable winner of the inaugural wins prediction thread I am going to predict:

49 wins
Indeed, you are the first winner! So cool that you have stuck it out with us commoners, even after all the fame and fortune you incurred from winning the title. I tell people all the time that mansions, girls, and fancy cars can't get you happiness unless you make an effort to spend time with people that have none of those things. So thank you for your presence here!

Re: ***OFFICIAL 2023-24 WINS PREDICTION THREAD***

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 7:43 am
by Q-is-here
Here is the run down of predictions as of today:

Tim - 60
Kekgeek - 53
LongGame - 52
KG4Ever - 51
Coolbreeze - 50
KiwiMatt - 49
Doper - 48
Sundog - 47
Drew - 46
Wildwolf - 45
Lipoli - 44





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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2023-24 WINS PREDICTION THREAD***

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 7:51 am
by FNG
Dammit, every number from 46-53 is already gone...shame on me for weighing in late I guess!

So, I have to share my pick with someone else. I think I'll go with 49. I can at least say I'll be the only (or at least first) guy in the northern hemisphere picking 49.

Re: ***OFFICIAL 2023-24 WINS PREDICTION THREAD***

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 8:51 am
by Coolbreeze44
Classic post.

Re: ***OFFICIAL 2023-24 WINS PREDICTION THREAD***

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 10:10 am
by Carlos Danger
Pfff...this team has only won more than 50 games TWO times in 35 years. I'll play the price is right and go one above Kekgeek. 54 wins this year only because the 10 more realistic outcomes below that are already taken.

Re: ***OFFICIAL 2023-24 WINS PREDICTION THREAD***

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 10:57 am
by Q-is-here
Here is the run down of predictions as of today:

Tim - 60
Carlos - 54
Kekgeek - 53
LongGame - 52
KG4Ever - 51
Coolbreeze - 50
KiwiMatt, FNG - 49
Doper - 48
Sundog - 47
Drew - 46
Wildwolf - 45
Lipoli - 44





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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2023-24 WINS PREDICTION THREAD***

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:00 am
by Q-is-here
Carlos Danger wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 10:10 am Pfff...this team has only won more than 50 games TWO times in 35 years. I'll play the price is right and go one above Kekgeek. 54 wins this year only because the 10 more realistic outcomes below that are already taken.
Whoa! Another optimist! You can share a wins prediction with others, as a couple years ago I believe we had a three-way tie. However, the winners had to figure out how to split an Enjin-branded coffee mug.

Re: ***OFFICIAL 2023-24 WINS PREDICTION THREAD***

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 1:57 pm
by Carlos Danger
Q-is-here wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:00 am
Carlos Danger wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 10:10 am Pfff...this team has only won more than 50 games TWO times in 35 years. I'll play the price is right and go one above Kekgeek. 54 wins this year only because the 10 more realistic outcomes below that are already taken.
Whoa! Another optimist! You can share a wins prediction with others, as a couple years ago I believe we had a three-way tie. However, the winners had to figure out how to split an Enjin-branded coffee mug.
Meh - it's more fun to be unique. It's all just throwing darts right now anyway. They certainly should be better than last year. How much better...we'll all just have to wait and see. In the meantime, I'm still focused on Twins #1 and Vikings #2.

Re: ***OFFICIAL 2023-24 WINS PREDICTION THREAD***

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:48 pm
by Q-is-here
Carlos Danger wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 1:57 pm
Q-is-here wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:00 am
Carlos Danger wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 10:10 am Pfff...this team has only won more than 50 games TWO times in 35 years. I'll play the price is right and go one above Kekgeek. 54 wins this year only because the 10 more realistic outcomes below that are already taken.
Whoa! Another optimist! You can share a wins prediction with others, as a couple years ago I believe we had a three-way tie. However, the winners had to figure out how to split an Enjin-branded coffee mug.
Meh - it's more fun to be unique. It's all just throwing darts right now anyway. They certainly should be better than last year. How much better...we'll all just have to wait and see. In the meantime, I'm still focused on Twins #1 and Vikings #2.
Twins just rewarded you for your focus! Broke the ice with some rare playoff success for a Minnesota pro franchise. Will the Wolves be next?