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Re: Wolves Offseason Forward Options
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2026 8:55 pm
by Lipoli390
D-Loser25 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2026 8:27 pm
Is anyone else coming to the conclusion also that TSJ is gone? I like him and don’t want him gone, but what other positive and tradeable assets are left? I see TSJ and green being combined for a starting level PF. I’m a big fan of TSJ and I hope I’m wrong, but that’s what I see as being left. They’ve said DDv is staying.
I thinking that’s a distinct possibility but I believe it would be a mistake. I think we can succeed with Jaden as our starting PF with Rudy, Ball, Ayo and Ant. We just need to sign a rotation PF with size as a free agent to rotate in for certain matchups or situations. Ball gives us unique length and rebounding at the PG position. Ant and Ayo aren’t small and are very strong. Jaden can hold his own defensively against the vast majority of NBA PFs. TSJ is very strong and physical.
I would sign Andre Drummond and Kyle Anderson to vet minimum deals and sign either Jeremy Sochan or Precious Achiuwa using the taxpayer MLE. We’ll also have Beringer and we’ll have Rocco on a 2-way. That more than adequate in my view and a much better alternative than trading TSJ.
I’ll note also that Green has value as a highly athletic defensive rotation wing who can hit threes. He also has value as an expiring contract and that will be important as we plan for the next few years. We’ll need some financial flexibility and need to avoid hitting the second apron again.
Re: Wolves Offseason Forward Options
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2026 9:11 pm
by Lipoli390
Maybe we can trade Green to Memphis for Clarke. With Memphis apparently in rebuild mode, I would think they’d like to swap a 4-year $50M player for a 1-year $14.8M player who is also young and athletic. I’m not sure I’d do that deal if I were TC unless I also received a couple future 2nd round picks in return. Clarke isn’t the player he used to be and is coming off a major injury. But that’s a realistic trade in my view that would not require us to move TSJ.
Re: Wolves Offseason Forward Options
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2026 9:16 pm
by Q-is-here
Players over 6'7" in the Final Four playoff rotations (Knicks, Cleveland, Spurs, OKC):
Knicks - KAT and Mitchell Robinson
Spurs - Wemby and Luke Kornet
OKC - iHart, Chet, and Jaylin Williams
Cleveland - Allen, Mobley, and Dean Wade
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The projected rotation for the Wolves next season before we even make any further acquisitions features Rudy Gobert (7'1"), Jaden McDaniels (6'9" listed but we know he's even taller!), and Joan Beringer (6'11" but his agent said he's grown an inch since last year). So we basically have three 7-footers already in our projected rotation. And then we have decent size across the board at the guard/wing positions, with literally no one under 6'4".
Yet OMG we HAVE to go get a starting-caliber power forward!!! (I know not all of you are saying that).
Do we need some more forward depth? Absolutely. Guys are going to get hurt and we are going to need some experienced backups. But does Connelly need to do a bunch more cap gymnastics and give up someone like TJ or DDV (who the Wolves say they want to keep) to go acquire another higher-end forward? I don't think so.
Re: Wolves Offseason Forward Options
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2026 9:17 pm
by Q-is-here
Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2026 9:11 pm
Maybe we can trade Green to Memphis for Clarke. With Memphis apparently in rebuild mode, I would think they’d like to swap a 4-year $50M player for a 1-year $14.8M player who is also young and athletic. I’m not sure I’d do that deal if I were TC unless I also received a couple future 2nd round picks in return. Clarke isn’t the player he used to be and is coming off a major injury. But that’s a realistic trade in my view that would not require us to move TSJ.
Lip, Hate to break this to you, but Clarke passed away. Tragic.
Re: Wolves Offseason Forward Options
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2026 9:23 pm
by 60WinTim
Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2026 9:11 pm
Maybe we can trade Green to Memphis for Clarke. With Memphis apparently in rebuild mode, I would think they’d like to swap a 4-year $50M player for a 1-year $14.8M player who is also young and athletic. I’m not sure I’d do that deal if I were TC unless I also received a couple future 2nd round picks in return. Clarke isn’t the player he used to be and is coming off a major injury. But that’s a realistic trade in my view that would not require us to move TSJ.
Yeah, that injury was pretty major. Kind of tough to come back from death…
Re: Wolves Offseason Forward Options
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2026 9:29 pm
by Lipoli390
60WinTim wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2026 9:23 pm
Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2026 9:11 pm
Maybe we can trade Green to Memphis for Clarke. With Memphis apparently in rebuild mode, I would think they’d like to swap a 4-year $50M player for a 1-year $14.8M player who is also young and athletic. I’m not sure I’d do that deal if I were TC unless I also received a couple future 2nd round picks in return. Clarke isn’t the player he used to be and is coming off a major injury. But that’s a realistic trade in my view that would not require us to move TSJ.
Yeah, that injury was pretty major. Kind of tough to come back from death…
Holy shit! How did I not know that? How did it happen?
Re: Wolves Offseason Forward Options
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2026 9:29 pm
by Lipoli390
Q-is-here wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2026 9:16 pm
Players over 6'7" in the Final Four playoff rotations (Knicks, Cleveland, Spurs, OKC):
Knicks - KAT and Mitchell Robinson
Spurs - Wemby and Luke Kornet
OKC - iHart, Chet, and Jaylin Williams
Cleveland - Allen, Mobley, and Dean Wade
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The projected rotation for the Wolves next season before we even make any further acquisitions features Rudy Gobert (7'1"), Jaden McDaniels (6'9" listed but we know he's even taller!), and Joan Beringer (6'11" but his agent said he's grown an inch since last year). So we basically have three 7-footers already in our projected rotation. And then we have decent size across the board at the guard/wing positions, with literally no one under 6'4".
Yet OMG we HAVE to go get a starting-caliber power forward!!! (I know not all of you are saying that).
Do we need some more forward depth? Absolutely. Guys are going to get hurt and we are going to need some experienced backups. But does Connelly need to do a bunch more cap gymnastics and give up someone like TJ or DDV (who the Wolves say they want to keep) to go acquire another higher-end forward? I don't think so.
I agree completely, Q!!
Re: Wolves Offseason Forward Options
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2026 9:34 pm
by Q-is-here
Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2026 9:29 pm
60WinTim wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2026 9:23 pm
Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2026 9:11 pm
Maybe we can trade Green to Memphis for Clarke. With Memphis apparently in rebuild mode, I would think they’d like to swap a 4-year $50M player for a 1-year $14.8M player who is also young and athletic. I’m not sure I’d do that deal if I were TC unless I also received a couple future 2nd round picks in return. Clarke isn’t the player he used to be and is coming off a major injury. But that’s a realistic trade in my view that would not require us to move TSJ.
Yeah, that injury was pretty major. Kind of tough to come back from death…
Holy shit! How did I not know that? How did it happen?
It was likely a drug overdose, but I don't know if it's conclusive or not. Either way, RIP....
Re: Wolves Offseason Forward Options
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2026 9:36 pm
by Phenom
Q-is-here wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2026 8:07 pm
Phenom wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2026 7:54 pm
Q-is-here wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2026 5:33 pm
That's why I didn't include him on the original list of options. Just doesn't seem do-able while staying below the 2nd Apron.
But Dane had mentioned him twice as a name he's heard FWIW
Understood, but he's played well enough that I just don't see how we can afford him. Dane may have first brought him up before the LaMelo trade.
I'm not sure when Dane heard his name but he mentioned his name post- Melo
Re: Wolves Offseason Forward Options
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2026 9:37 pm
by Phenom
Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2026 8:55 pm
D-Loser25 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2026 8:27 pm
Is anyone else coming to the conclusion also that TSJ is gone? I like him and don’t want him gone, but what other positive and tradeable assets are left? I see TSJ and green being combined for a starting level PF. I’m a big fan of TSJ and I hope I’m wrong, but that’s what I see as being left. They’ve said DDv is staying.
I thinking that’s a distinct possibility but I believe it would be a mistake. I think we can succeed with Jaden as our starting PF with Rudy, Ball, Ayo and Ant. We just need to sign a rotation PF with size as a free agent to rotate in for certain matchups or situations. Ball gives us unique length and rebounding at the PG position. Ant and Ayo aren’t small and are very strong. Jaden can hold his own defensively against the vast majority of NBA PFs. TSJ is very strong and physical.
I would sign Andre Drummond and Kyle Anderson to vet minimum deals and sign either Jeremy Sochan or Precious Achiuwa using the taxpayer MLE. We’ll also have Beringer and we’ll have Rocco on a 2-way. That more than adequate in my view and a much better alternative than trading TSJ.
I’ll note also that Green has value as a highly athletic defensive rotation wing who can hit threes. He also has value as an expiring contract and that will be important as we plan for the next few years. We’ll need some financial flexibility and need to avoid hitting the second apron again.
Isaiah Evans could also be a sweetener, just sayin.