Ben Simmons Talk Revived

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/pjuxtt/jon_krawczynski_the_timberwolves_are_in_a/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

A nice recap of why Jon K thinks the Wolves are getting Simmons

It will be a sad to lose mcdaniels, he and Beasley and filler, and only one first round pick I'm hoping

In that scenario, the Wolves get back a 25-year old All-NBA player and runner-up DPOY in Ben Simmons. How sad will you really be?

Not too sad, Ben and I share the same name so I am excited for the wolves to hopefully take advantage of this once in a lifetime opportunity. I was just hoping to somehow keep McDaniels and spam them with first round picks instead but ah well

Ha! I'm with you on that one. Personally, I don't think it's a certainty that Jaden McDaniels will be traded, but in the event he is it's definitely something I can live with if Ben Simmons playing for the Wolves.

[Coolbreeze44]

I don't see this ending anytime soon. Going to be a lot of speculation and rumors over the next month.

[Coolbreeze44]

If it's true that Rosas actually has the sixers willing to take a package centered around DLO, and he doesn't do it, he is every bit the moron I think he is.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

If it's true that Rosas actually has the sixers willing to take a package centered around DLO, and he doesn't do it, he is every bit the moron I think he is.

You can say this as many times as you want to, but it doesn't make it true. :)

[Coolbreeze44]

If it's true that Rosas actually has the sixers willing to take a package centered around DLO, and he doesn't do it, he is every bit the moron I think he is.

You can say this as many times as you want to, but it doesn't make it true. :)

What, that I think Rosas is a moron?

[FNG]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/pjuxtt/jon_krawczynski_the_timberwolves_are_in_a/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

A nice recap of why Jon K thinks the Wolves are getting Simmons

It will be a sad to lose mcdaniels, he and Beasley and filler, and only one first round pick I'm hoping

In that scenario, the Wolves get back a 25-year old All-NBA player and runner-up DPOY in Ben Simmons. How sad will you really be?

Not too sad, Ben and I share the same name so I am excited for the wolves to hopefully take advantage of this once in a lifetime opportunity. I was just hoping to somehow keep McDaniels and spam them with first round picks instead but ah well

Ha! I'm with you on that one. Personally, I don't think it's a certainty that Jaden McDaniels will be traded, but in the event he is it's definitely something I can live with if Ben Simmons playing for the Wolves.

I pretty much agree with both of your sentiments. It would be difficult to let a promising prospect like Jaden go, but the pain would quickly go away with the addition of Simmons. I'm not concerned about losing Beasley,,,good shooter, but a terrible defender and questionable character at best.

I'm quite encouraged by the Jon K article, as I find him to be as credible as anyone. Of the three types of deals rumored, this is my order of preference:

1) Something built around Dlo and picks. This would be by far my first choice, but it's doubtful for two reasons: Morey doesn't seem to be too enamored of Russell, and Rosas at least says he would like to retain him.

2) Jaden, Beas and picks. See above. I imagine this pushes Prince into the starting SF spot, so I'm going to start a thread about him.

3) Ant for Ben. Reports are Morey would do this, but this board would largely revolt if Rosas did this . I would grudgingly support it because it does make us better, but I would clearly prefer options 1 and 2.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

I'd say the odds of Taurean Prince being involved in a Ben Simmons trade are high.

[Crazysauce]

The reason I like dealing Dlo is because if it came down to keeping Dlo on his max deal or Jaden on his rookie deal its a no brainer for me. I think it will be really difficult to put pieces around this core with Simmons Towns and Dlos contracts together.

For me it's really hard with dlo. I actually really want to like him, I loved him in college. He was a stud. But he was so bad last year. He really did play better when Finch took over. But it's so difficult cause that Ryan Saunders Dlo was just terrible. I think Kat and Ant can provide enough offense.

Simmons
Beasley
Edwards
Jaden
Kat

Or switching it to

Beverly
Edwards
Jaden
Simmons
Kat

Oh the possibilities.

[FNG]

The reason I like dealing Dlo is because if it came down to keeping Dlo on his max deal or Jaden on his rookie deal its a no brainer for me. I think it will be really difficult to put pieces around this core with Simmons Towns and Dlos contracts together.

For me it's really hard with dlo. I actually really want to like him, I loved him in college. He was a stud. But he was so bad last year. He really did play better when Finch took over. But it's so difficult cause that Ryan Saunders Dlo was just terrible. I think Kat and Ant can provide enough offense.

Simmons
Beasley
Edwards
Jaden
Kat

Or switching it to

Beverly
Edwards
Jaden
Simmons
Kat

Oh the possibilities.

I think your second lineup is more likely...I'm guessing Finch sees Simmons' best role as a playmaking PF and Jaden as a natural SF.

But as much as I love both these starting 5's, it's currently not likely for the reasons I said above:

Morey doesn't really want Dlo (understandable).

Rosas doesn't want to give Dlo up (malpractice).

And by the way, I agree with you...I liked Dlo both in college and in the final weeks of last season. I just don't know if it's sustainable.

[Lipoli390]

Well, at least one report indicated that Morey was irritated by Gersson's refusal to include DLO. So if DLO isn't included in the Wolves' package for Simmons, I don't think it will be because of Morey. I think he's like to have a PG of DLO's caliber for the season. Gersson wanted DLO desperately and he's the sort who won't let go, witness the contract he gave Juancho last year.

For me, the ideal realistic package for Simmons would be DLO, Layman or Okogie, Bolmaro, the Wolves 2022 or 2023 first-round pick (unprotected or lightly protected), and two of the Wolves three 2022 second-round picks. Maybe that's something Morey wouldn't accept. Throw in one more future 1st-round pick, but make it lottery protected.