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Q12543 wrote:How much worse would we be if we traded KAT for Jarrett Allen, Spencer Dinwiddie, and Taurean Prince? i'd bet we would be the same or better. Allen instantly improves our defense. Dinwiddie gives us a ball handling playmaker and scorer. Prince gives us a 3 & D wing.
KAT is awesome. But he's limited in the impact he can make since he is weak on defense and has to rely on others to get shots. As Abe states, the game just isn't built these days for an offensively gifted Center that doesn't defend well.
Now do I think the Wolves actually consider trading KAT in the near future? Hell No. But I'm skeptical they can build around him given the existing trends and the way its officiated (again, see Abe's white paper on this topic). I certainly hope I'm wrong.
CoolBreeze44 wrote:Just remember that no matter how good you are on offense, you spend 50% of the game playing defense. I'm in the camp that a KAT trade could be best in the long run. However, if you could move him to power forward and bring in an eraser to play center, I think you could win big.
CoolBreeze44 wrote:Just remember that no matter how good you are on offense, you spend 50% of the game playing defense. I'm in the camp that a KAT trade could be best in the long run. However, if you could move him to power forward and bring in an eraser to play center, I think you could win big.
crazy-canuck wrote:CoolBreeze44 wrote:Just remember that no matter how good you are on offense, you spend 50% of the game playing defense. I'm in the camp that a KAT trade could be best in the long run. However, if you could move him to power forward and bring in an eraser to play center, I think you could win big.
I think this is the path as well. We can still play the way they want to play. Kat guarding sfs on switches isn't going to be much worse than hes doing now. I also think kat would work better as a weak side shot blocker. He would or can also be the small ball c. I think its much easier to find a big rim protector than another elite defensive 3d wing or pf. Unfortunately that big c we need is not on the roster.
Dedmon for dieng switch anyone?
thedoper wrote:Q12543 wrote:How much worse would we be if we traded KAT for Jarrett Allen, Spencer Dinwiddie, and Taurean Prince? i'd bet we would be the same or better. Allen instantly improves our defense. Dinwiddie gives us a ball handling playmaker and scorer. Prince gives us a 3 & D wing.
KAT is awesome. But he's limited in the impact he can make since he is weak on defense and has to rely on others to get shots. As Abe states, the game just isn't built these days for an offensively gifted Center that doesn't defend well.
Now do I think the Wolves actually consider trading KAT in the near future? Hell No. But I'm skeptical they can build around him given the existing trends and the way its officiated (again, see Abe's white paper on this topic). I certainly hope I'm wrong.
We would be a lot worse. We'd be last place in the west.
KG4Ever wrote:Golden State turned the corner when they traded away scorer Monta Ellis for Bogut. We need to find a Bogut type to clog the middle.
Camden0916 wrote:crazy-canuck wrote:CoolBreeze44 wrote:Just remember that no matter how good you are on offense, you spend 50% of the game playing defense. I'm in the camp that a KAT trade could be best in the long run. However, if you could move him to power forward and bring in an eraser to play center, I think you could win big.
I think this is the path as well. We can still play the way they want to play. Kat guarding sfs on switches isn't going to be much worse than hes doing now. I also think kat would work better as a weak side shot blocker. He would or can also be the small ball c. I think its much easier to find a big rim protector than another elite defensive 3d wing or pf. Unfortunately that big c we need is not on the roster.
Dedmon for dieng switch anyone?
Might as well go get Steven Adams if that's the way the team is going to be built.
monsterpile wrote:KG4Ever wrote:Golden State turned the corner when they traded away scorer Monta Ellis for Bogut. We need to find a Bogut type to clog the middle.
They also traded away a guy that likely was actually a negative for a positive. What really turned the corner was the fact they had 2 future HOF guards on their roster and they moved a guy that played their positions and also ended up drafting a future HOFer in the 2nd round. The Ellis for Bogut trade was significant though. If I remember correctly they were actually a good defensive team before that which people tend to forget about and Mark Jackson and his staff probably should get some credit for that.