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FNG wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 7:11 am

kekgeek wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:42 pm Dlo with a solid 0 point showing today. Cam is blaming Ham on Twitter

I went directly to his twitter as soon as I saw DLo's box score...it's always a rich experience for an amateur psychologist. DLo has had a very good season...certainly his best. And I was starting to think he had finally grown up and left his immaturity behind. But the video of him pouting on the bench during a critical game and not joining his teammates in the huddle shows he's still the same guy.

But of course it was Ham's fault.

Came here to post that video, it looks like dlo is snacking while scrolling on his phone: https://streamable.com/trd3s8?src=player-page-share

Also his body language when he misses a shot - just gets defeated.

Hubie Brown doing NBA playoff games at 90. I mean....Wow. Not that there aren't plenty of perfectly coherent 90-year olds out there, but to actually be doing live color commentary at that age is really, really impressive. Good for him.

Denver and now Bucks withstood an early onslaught (Bucks much more than Denver) and ended up making it a game in the 2nd half. Denver of course went on to win and we'll see what the Bucks do here in OT, but the lesson is just keep grinding if we fall behind early. Just don't fall behind by 20+ early!

davemang wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:28 pm

FNG wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 7:11 am

kekgeek wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:42 pm Dlo with a solid 0 point showing today. Cam is blaming Ham on Twitter

I went directly to his twitter as soon as I saw DLo's box score...it's always a rich experience for an amateur psychologist. DLo has had a very good season...certainly his best. And I was starting to think he had finally grown up and left his immaturity behind. But the video of him pouting on the bench during a critical game and not joining his teammates in the huddle shows he's still the same guy.

But of course it was Ham's fault.

Came here to post that video, it looks like dlo is snacking while scrolling on his phone: https://streamable.com/trd3s8?src=player-page-share

Also his body language when he misses a shot - just gets defeated.

I have no problem with the snacking...teams provide energy snacks for players to munch on during timeouts. But the phone thing is bizarre. I'm pretty sure I've never seen an NBA player scrolling through his phone on the bench while the rest of the team is in a huddle with the coach. I've had it with this guy...he's a loser. But let's celebrate TC one more time for one of the most unbalanced trades in the history of the NBA.

He got a veteran PG who has mentored Ant, made some big shots, and unlocked Rudy...plus,

NAW, who is turning into one of the best 3 and D bench guys in the league.

In exchange for a guy who checks his phone and pouts on the bench during a critical playoff game because his coach has yanked him for going 0 for 7. SMH

So much for the DLO is a good teammate nonsense.

Coolbreeze44 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:37 pm So much for the DLO is a good teammate nonsense.

Don't you dare bait Camden into rage posting.

Come on Lakers quit melting down and win this

BloopOracle wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:35 pm Come on Lakers quit melting down and win this

And they did, forcing a game 5 in Denver.

And I've turned 180 degrees on Russell after his shameful behavior on the bench two nights ago...Ham should have benched his ass tonight. But of course is there anything more DLovian than scoring 21 points in a meaningless game after laying an egg in a critical game.

(And yes, Game 4 is meaningless when you're 0-3...no team has ever come back from 0-3 to win. The Suns may beat the Wolves tomorrow. but that will be meaningless also)

FNG wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:11 pm

BloopOracle wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:35 pm Come on Lakers quit melting down and win this

And they did, forcing a game 5 in Denver.

And I've turned 180 degrees on Russell after his shameful behavior on the bench two nights ago...Ham should have benched his ass tonight. But of course is there anything more DLovian than scoring 21 points in a meaningless game after laying an egg in a critical game.

(And yes, Game 4 is meaningless when you're 0-3...no team has ever come back from 0-3 to win. The Suns may beat the Wolves tomorrow. but that will be meaningless also)

I’m about to put you in a mental pretzel here FNG. Dlo for the series is a +15. The only lakers starter who is not negative. He has been the Lakers top +\- player in 2 of the 4 games and top 2 in 3 of the 4.

So with that said I want you to admit Dlo has been a winning player this series or I want you to admit single game +\- is a terrible stat. ADMIT IT FNG ADMIT IT!!!!!!! Haha

kekgeek wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:20 am

FNG wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:11 pm

BloopOracle wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:35 pm Come on Lakers quit melting down and win this

And they did, forcing a game 5 in Denver.

And I've turned 180 degrees on Russell after his shameful behavior on the bench two nights ago...Ham should have benched his ass tonight. But of course is there anything more DLovian than scoring 21 points in a meaningless game after laying an egg in a critical game.

(And yes, Game 4 is meaningless when you're 0-3...no team has ever come back from 0-3 to win. The Suns may beat the Wolves tomorrow. but that will be meaningless also)

I’m about to put you in a mental pretzel here FNG. Dlo for the series is a +15. The only lakers starter who is not negative. He has been the Lakers top +\- player in 2 of the 4 games and top 2 in 3 of the 4.

So with that said I want you to admit Dlo has been a winning player this series or I want you to admit single game +\- is a terrible stat. ADMIT IT FNG ADMIT IT!!!!!!! Haha

Ha, you can't do that to me before I've had my coffee, Kek!

I'm just a little ornery because I feel like I drank the DLo Kool Aid and fell for the whole "DLo has grown up and is now a winning player" narrative. I'm embarrassed that I went there, and will never support this loser again. His disgusting bench pouting in Game 3 showed us once again who Russell really is...a talented tease who will sometimes put up great numbers, but will always let you down when it matters. I'm done with him, and will never do anything but rip him again. (although I will always be grateful to him for leaving and bringing us two actual winners in Conley and NAW...hos departure could bring us a championship).

To take a shot at your question, I'll continue to support +/- as a meaningful stat. Personally when I was playing, I always evaluated my own performance by whether I outscored my opponent when I was on the court. And while it is less meaningful in a small sample size, I do note that Ant seems to always know his teammates' +/- for the night in many post game pressers, so it must mean something to him. But DLo is a unique player, and I would argue you can throw out all stats when it comes to evaluating him. This is what Cam never understood. He would cite stat after stat to support his assertion that his favorite player was the second coming of Michael Jordan, while ignoring the irrefutable fact that the guy has always been and will always be a loser who destroys the fortunes of any team he is on.

I feel better now...