How would you fill the final roster spots?
- SameOldNudityDrew
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Re: How would you fill the final roster spots?
Hey Monster, I forget what Naz's deal was. Do you mean we should sign Minott to a guaranteed spot as opposed to a two-way? I
I think we're all mostly on the same page in terms of what we need from these three final slots.
In terms of another defensive on-ball guard, which I think might be one of our biggest needs, Campazzo is super-short, but he's actually not a bad defender, and would bring some of the "fuck you" energy Beverley did. Or Shaq Harrison, who I know we discussed in another thread. Not sure what Avery Bradley or Kris Dunn could bring these days.
I can see bringing Knight back as the 4th big for rebounding and toughness. I know Lip's pulling for Moses Brown if we get a more traditional center. I'm a little less opposed to Boogie Cousins than I was the other day, but I'm still wary of the chemistry danger there. Could also get a little weird and go for Blake Griffin? Maybe Markieff Morris?? He might cross the line into dirtiness a bit too far for me, but I do want to add some toughness to replace Beverley. Not sure who else is out there, and at least Knight's a known quantity. Also gives us some muscle.
Then yeah, some kind of versatile wing. Again, not sure what's available, but they should be able to shoot from deep at least average. Sadly, maybe Layman might not be so bad here. Maybe stick with more of a straight PF and bring Juancho back now that Rosas is gone? The bad Martin twin who hasn't been signed yet? Or, if Minott really does continue to impress, I guess that could be an option to sign him up fully, but I suspect he'll actually develop much more on a two-way because he'll definitely get more playing time in Iowa.
Side note: I had heard a bit about John Butler before the draft, and just checked him out some more. That dude makes Poku look like Arnold Schwarzenegger!
I think we're all mostly on the same page in terms of what we need from these three final slots.
In terms of another defensive on-ball guard, which I think might be one of our biggest needs, Campazzo is super-short, but he's actually not a bad defender, and would bring some of the "fuck you" energy Beverley did. Or Shaq Harrison, who I know we discussed in another thread. Not sure what Avery Bradley or Kris Dunn could bring these days.
I can see bringing Knight back as the 4th big for rebounding and toughness. I know Lip's pulling for Moses Brown if we get a more traditional center. I'm a little less opposed to Boogie Cousins than I was the other day, but I'm still wary of the chemistry danger there. Could also get a little weird and go for Blake Griffin? Maybe Markieff Morris?? He might cross the line into dirtiness a bit too far for me, but I do want to add some toughness to replace Beverley. Not sure who else is out there, and at least Knight's a known quantity. Also gives us some muscle.
Then yeah, some kind of versatile wing. Again, not sure what's available, but they should be able to shoot from deep at least average. Sadly, maybe Layman might not be so bad here. Maybe stick with more of a straight PF and bring Juancho back now that Rosas is gone? The bad Martin twin who hasn't been signed yet? Or, if Minott really does continue to impress, I guess that could be an option to sign him up fully, but I suspect he'll actually develop much more on a two-way because he'll definitely get more playing time in Iowa.
Side note: I had heard a bit about John Butler before the draft, and just checked him out some more. That dude makes Poku look like Arnold Schwarzenegger!
Re: How would you fill the final roster spots?
Boogie,Shroder and Carmelo Anthony. Carmelo can still stretch the defense. He can be our version of Horford. Albeit a poor one.
- SameOldNudityDrew
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Re: How would you fill the final roster spots?
PorkChop wrote:Boogie,Shroder and Carmelo Anthony. Carmelo can still stretch the defense. He can be our version of Horford. Albeit a poor one.
The danger with guys like that is that they can't accept all the DNP's they deserve to get. For the most part, I don't think we're going to add a guy who plays regular minutes at this point, barring injury. Former stars often aren't ok with that and start to poison the culture of a team. One of those guys? Ok. As long as we get assurances that they're ok with their very limited role. But any more than that I think is a bit too much risk for the low upside.
Re: How would you fill the final roster spots?
Not sure where DJ Augustin ranks amongst the available guards, but you could certainly do a lot worse...
Re: How would you fill the final roster spots?
SameOldNudityDrew wrote:Hey Monster, I forget what Naz's deal was. Do you mean we should sign Minott to a guaranteed spot as opposed to a two-way? I
I think we're all mostly on the same page in terms of what we need from these three final slots.
In terms of another defensive on-ball guard, which I think might be one of our biggest needs, Campazzo is super-short, but he's actually not a bad defender, and would bring some of the "fuck you" energy Beverley did. Or Shaq Harrison, who I know we discussed in another thread. Not sure what Avery Bradley or Kris Dunn could bring these days.
I can see bringing Knight back as the 4th big for rebounding and toughness. I know Lip's pulling for Moses Brown if we get a more traditional center. I'm a little less opposed to Boogie Cousins than I was the other day, but I'm still wary of the chemistry danger there. Could also get a little weird and go for Blake Griffin? Maybe Markieff Morris?? He might cross the line into dirtiness a bit too far for me, but I do want to add some toughness to replace Beverley. Not sure who else is out there, and at least Knight's a known quantity. Also gives us some muscle.
Then yeah, some kind of versatile wing. Again, not sure what's available, but they should be able to shoot from deep at least average. Sadly, maybe Layman might not be so bad here. Maybe stick with more of a straight PF and bring Juancho back now that Rosas is gone? The bad Martin twin who hasn't been signed yet? Or, if Minott really does continue to impress, I guess that could be an option to sign him up fully, but I suspect he'll actually develop much more on a two-way because he'll definitely get more playing time in Iowa.
Side note: I had heard a bit about John Butler before the draft, and just checked him out some more. That dude makes Poku look like Arnold Schwarzenegger!
Naz Reid was initially signed to a 2-way deal but played well in summer league and the wolves had an open roster spot and the small amount of roster flexibility needed to sign him to the long term contract he is now in the last year of. When Minott was drafted there was a roster crunch. After the Gobert trade there are open roster spots and still enough flexibility to get him signed to an NBA deal. I think if he continues to show in SP he isn't just a raw guy he may not play all that much in Iowa but whether he get signed to a 2-way deal or a regular contract he can player there just like Nowell did.
I agree the players we bring in are probably not gonna play much. We got Bryn Forbes already and he actually is getting paid less than the 4.5 million the Spurs gave him last offseason. I do think he will end up playing at times because of his skill set sometimes you just need a hopefully hot shooting 3 point shooter but I don't exactly expect him to have a spot in the rotation every night. He is also a solid backup plan if Nowell really isn't up to being the guy we hope/expect him to be. He doesn't have the offensive versatility that Nowell offers but he could slot in to basically be a guy similar to Beasley but playing fewer minutes.
You brought up some names that haven't really been discussed. Looking at the available FAs maybe there aren't many inspiring options but we are also taking about guys outside the rotation signed for vet min deals. Campazzo fits into that idea and Connelly is obviously familiar with him. There will likely be guys let go from this team this offseason that might be better than what is available now. There are also probably 5-20 guys that MIGHT be worth considering that aren't on the FA list like Greg Monroe was last season. These are guys that haven't played in the league for a while or didn't finish the season with a team. I don't know what the deal is with Harry Giles but he is a still somewhat young guy with some NBA experience that's available. Michael Carter Williams is another "if he could stay healthy" guy that would be a versatile player. Below is a list that has some guys other lists don't include.
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/current_free_agents
- Camden [enjin:6601484]
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Re: How would you fill the final roster spots?
I'm tracking four roster spots and two (2) two-way spots available as of right now. I think it's likely that we'll keep one roster spot vacant in the event of injury, trade, or otherwise.
This is how I would fill the remaining spots:
- Sign Dennis Schroder to a one-year deal at the minimum
- Sign Hassan Whiteside to a one-year deal at the minimum
- Sign Josh Minott to a four-year, $6.5-million deal with team options
- Sign Nathan Knight to the two-way deal that the Timberwolves already tendered
- Sign Mac McClung to a two-way deal -- McClung is currently on Golden State's Summer League roster
This is how I would fill the remaining spots:
- Sign Dennis Schroder to a one-year deal at the minimum
- Sign Hassan Whiteside to a one-year deal at the minimum
- Sign Josh Minott to a four-year, $6.5-million deal with team options
- Sign Nathan Knight to the two-way deal that the Timberwolves already tendered
- Sign Mac McClung to a two-way deal -- McClung is currently on Golden State's Summer League roster
Re: How would you fill the final roster spots?
Camden wrote:I'm tracking four roster spots and two (2) two-way spots available as of right now. I think it's likely that we'll keep one roster spot vacant in the event of injury, trade, or otherwise.
This is how I would fill the remaining spots:
- Sign Dennis Schroder to a one-year deal at the minimum
- Sign Hassan Whiteside to a one-year deal at the minimum
- Sign Josh Minott to a four-year, $6.5-million deal with team options
- Sign Nathan Knight to the two-way deal that the Timberwolves already tendered
- Sign Mac McClung to a two-way deal -- McClung is currently on Golden State's Summer League roster
I'm not sure who you are missing, but I only count three open roster spots. Forbes? Moore?
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Re: How would you fill the final roster spots?
60WinTim wrote:Camden wrote:I'm tracking four roster spots and two (2) two-way spots available as of right now. I think it's likely that we'll keep one roster spot vacant in the event of injury, trade, or otherwise.
This is how I would fill the remaining spots:
- Sign Dennis Schroder to a one-year deal at the minimum
- Sign Hassan Whiteside to a one-year deal at the minimum
- Sign Josh Minott to a four-year, $6.5-million deal with team options
- Sign Nathan Knight to the two-way deal that the Timberwolves already tendered
- Sign Mac McClung to a two-way deal -- McClung is currently on Golden State's Summer League roster
I'm not sure who you are missing, but I only count three open roster spots. Forbes? Moore?
Yep, good catch, Doug. Bryn Forbes hasn't officially signed yet and I missed him in my count. That would leave Minnesota with three available roster spots, and likely just two more additions as I still think they'll keep one spot vacant.
I think Josh Minott will receive a four-year contract with team options and little guaranteed money, similar to the deals Jaylen Nowell and Naz Reid signed years ago.
Do we add a veteran ball-handler or big? I think I'd prioritize adding another guard, personally.
Re: How would you fill the final roster spots?
Camden wrote:60WinTim wrote:Camden wrote:I'm tracking four roster spots and two (2) two-way spots available as of right now. I think it's likely that we'll keep one roster spot vacant in the event of injury, trade, or otherwise.
This is how I would fill the remaining spots:
- Sign Dennis Schroder to a one-year deal at the minimum
- Sign Hassan Whiteside to a one-year deal at the minimum
- Sign Josh Minott to a four-year, $6.5-million deal with team options
- Sign Nathan Knight to the two-way deal that the Timberwolves already tendered
- Sign Mac McClung to a two-way deal -- McClung is currently on Golden State's Summer League roster
I'm not sure who you are missing, but I only count three open roster spots. Forbes? Moore?
Yep, good catch, Doug. Bryn Forbes hasn't officially signed yet and I missed him in my count. That would leave Minnesota with three available roster spots, and likely just two more additions as I still think they'll keep one spot vacant.
I think Josh Minott will receive a four-year contract with team options and little guaranteed money, similar to the deals Jaylen Nowell and Naz Reid signed years ago.
Do we add a veteran ball-handler or big? I think I'd prioritize adding another guard, personally.
I've been curious about McClung as an option.
It seems reasonable for the Wolves to add some help to their need of a perimeter defender and/or ball handler with a 2 way deal. I have a feeling whoever they sign will not be in Iowa very much.
Who they add for the 14th spot might come down to best available guy. Like both of you I'm guessing that the Wolves may have just 1 more roster spot left to use on a vet NBA player. They may wait things out to see who becomes available. I think one other option would be they might sign a guy to a non-guaranteed deal and see where that goes. They might be a little more inclined to keep a worthwhile guy than they did when they let RHJ go a couple years ago. Of course if they are healthy and feeing good about the roster they may roll with 14 especially if they feel good about the depth the 2 way guys give them. I think it's pretty clear now they like Knight.
Re: How would you fill the final roster spots?
I'm assuming the Wolves will keep Nathan Knight on a two-way deal. With three roster spots and one 2-way contract to fill, here's what I think would be best plan:
1. Fill one of the three roster spots by signing Minott to a multi-year deal structured exactly like the rookie scale deals for 1st round picks.
2. Fill one of the remaining two roster spots with the best available vet big. My targets like TJ Warren, Moses Brown and Gorgui have already signed elsewhere while Montrezl Harrell is likely on his way to prison. So I think we're down to Greg Monroe, LaMarcus Aldridge or Taj Gibson.
3. Fill the one remaining 2-way slot with the best available PG
4. Leave one roster spot open to fill during the season based on need and availability.
1. Fill one of the three roster spots by signing Minott to a multi-year deal structured exactly like the rookie scale deals for 1st round picks.
2. Fill one of the remaining two roster spots with the best available vet big. My targets like TJ Warren, Moses Brown and Gorgui have already signed elsewhere while Montrezl Harrell is likely on his way to prison. So I think we're down to Greg Monroe, LaMarcus Aldridge or Taj Gibson.
3. Fill the one remaining 2-way slot with the best available PG
4. Leave one roster spot open to fill during the season based on need and availability.