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Q12543 wrote:

AbeVigodaLive wrote:

Q12543 wrote:Kek, I don't think it all hinges on Edwards. Remember, even if he does become good, it may take three or four years. He is 19 and not in the same window as KAT and DLO.

I believe there is an element of luck and great front offices basically unearth talent with the best odds of reaching their full potential. We've got a number of irons in the fire that could pop and be significant contributors, not just Edwards.

Fuck the timeline/window.

By Rosas' moves... trading for DLO on a max deal and giving up next year's #1... he's shorting just how much the current group can improve.

This is basically the team. At least for this season. And probably next season. Yet, we're asked to be patient because we're just not good enough.

But maybe... just maybe... the next promise of hope guy (edwards) will actually earn his max contract. We just have to sit through a couple/few more 50-loss seasons to find out.

If Rosas doesn't think this team can compete as structured... either draft/trade for guy(s) who can help now... or don't build around Russell and Towns.

Doing both simultaneously does nothing. I know Rosas doesn't give a shit because he's the one making tons of money... and wants to keep making tons of money... but that doesn't mean we have to keep buying this crap each time a new regime shovels it to us.

Think about the Stockholm Syndrome we have as fans. 1/2 the people on this forum think that the biggest failure of the past decade is sacrificing unproven prospects to MAKE THE PLAYOFFS under Thibodeau.

Abe, when you say "we're asked to be patient", who are you referring to that is doing the asking?

My view is he made a solid move bringing in Rubio - truly a "win now" signing, but otherwise failed on the PF front despite trying to get a "win now" guy in Milsap or Tucker. He also failed in the draft not getting a "win now" guy (or guys), but I do think attempts were made.

While in the end Rosas should be held accountable, I do believe he at least tried to get some better pieces here and just wasn't successful at doing so. It's on him for not being successful.

lipoli390 wrote:

monsterpile wrote:

lipoli390 wrote:

CoolBreeze44 wrote:

kekgeek1 wrote:Sure a big has a higher floor but get are also easier to replace. I mean we have a unicorn big and its looking like we will be trying to hopefully make the play in tournament.

Its one preseason game guys

Here is what makes me cringe. A great poster, someone I have a lot of respect for is hoping that we can make the play-in tournament.

I don't disagree at all. That is certainly what we are hoping for. But how pathetic is it at this point of our maturation? We've traded Wiggins and a slew of other players. We won the #1 draft pick and fired that bullet. We've dealt our #1 pick for next year leaving us with virtually no way to get better unless we blow things up again. I hope you guys are as pissed as I am where we find ourselves heading into 2021. I, and several posters on this board would have us in far better shape had we been given the reigns when Rosas was hired. I'm just looking for hope at this point and not finding much.

Don't forget that we also traded our 2021 2nd round pick as well in the DLO deal. Just makes your point even stronger. I watched the Memphis game again today. One of the things that bothered me was watching Desmond Bane. It was a reminder of how much I liked him coming out of college and how well he would have fit on this team. But instead we have Bolmaro, who is playing in Europe and may never be an NBA-caliber player. The fact that this franchise is in the pretty sorry state it's in now because of a long string of poor player personnel/draft decisions.

Do you like Bane more than you like Nowell?

No. But I like him better than Bolmaro. I get that we have a glut of SGs on this team. That's another problem. The more I watch DLO, the more I see him as a SG, which makes him part of the glut. I would have done a number of things differently in the draft this year. But alas, it is what it is.

monsterpile wrote:

lipoli390 wrote:

monsterpile wrote:

lipoli390 wrote:

CoolBreeze44 wrote:

kekgeek1 wrote:Sure a big has a higher floor but get are also easier to replace. I mean we have a unicorn big and its looking like we will be trying to hopefully make the play in tournament.

Its one preseason game guys

Here is what makes me cringe. A great poster, someone I have a lot of respect for is hoping that we can make the play-in tournament.

I don't disagree at all. That is certainly what we are hoping for. But how pathetic is it at this point of our maturation? We've traded Wiggins and a slew of other players. We won the #1 draft pick and fired that bullet. We've dealt our #1 pick for next year leaving us with virtually no way to get better unless we blow things up again. I hope you guys are as pissed as I am where we find ourselves heading into 2021. I, and several posters on this board would have us in far better shape had we been given the reigns when Rosas was hired. I'm just looking for hope at this point and not finding much.

Don't forget that we also traded our 2021 2nd round pick as well in the DLO deal. Just makes your point even stronger. I watched the Memphis game again today. One of the things that bothered me was watching Desmond Bane. It was a reminder of how much I liked him coming out of college and how well he would have fit on this team. But instead we have Bolmaro, who is playing in Europe and may never be an NBA-caliber player. The fact that this franchise is in the pretty sorry state it's in now because of a long string of poor player personnel/draft decisions.

Do you like Bane more than you like Nowell?

No. But I like him better than Bolmaro. I get that we have a glut of SGs on this team. That's another problem. The more I watch DLO, the more I see him as a SG, which makes him part of the glut. I would have done a number of things differently in the draft this year. But alas, it is what it is.

We are in a roster crunch now where would you be getting the roster spot for another rookie? Do you see any hope for Bolmoro? I heard that his coach in Barcelona sees him as a PG in their system so he will be developed as a pg. If he can defend at his size and actually play PG that would be pretty valuable even if he couldn't shoot which we will see on that one.

Q12543 wrote:Hard not to like the kid, regardless of how we view him as a player. Pretty much puts up zero facade and speaks honestly in simple terms. Good stuff.