Rosas Regime

[AbeVigodaLive]

The 16th pick might not actually be that bad. It could net us a guy like RJ Hampton.

Or Justin Patton!

Just saying. It's a crapshoot.

[Monster]

So you all didn't want us to trade Covington?

Trading Covington is fine. Trading away half the roster who plays with him for a 1st round pick in the 20's and pretty much no other future value is not fine. One aspect overlooked is we just traded away a decent chunk of guys we literally just brought in this year to supplement this roster. Bell and Vonleh (signed as FA's) are gone and Shabazz and Graham (picked up via trade) are gone. If you are a fringe guy like any of those guys why would you ever sign in MN any more? The GM sent a message this year that he's gonna ship you out real quick if things don't click immediately and we didn't even try 2 big lineups that could have made Bell and Vonleh actual contributors on this team. So now in addition to the top guys never coming here, we just cutout the bottom guys as well so we are looking at overpays and G Leaguer's as our potential FA acquisitions in the near future. We look like the least stable organization in a league that has the New York Knicks who just fired/promoted their PBO to the basketball board of directors.

Seriously? You have a problem with the other guys we traded? Yeah, I'd hate getting traded to a playoff team if I was a fringe player...

I mean what's uprooting your entire life in the middle of a basketball season to go to another city right? That doesn't put any stress on them or their families at all. There's more to life than just basketball. These guys play ball for a job and then they have entire lives off the court. Think about the bigger picture beyond just what it means on the court.

There is something to this.

For years, we've seen this organization take care of vets and buy them out to play nice with future players. Playing with the ESPN trade machine because the numbers line up... but leaving the team entirely adrift... seems off to me. Now, considering just how bad the Wolves are right now, maybe other players will think the Wolves are doing those guys a favor, considering they'll be appearing in the playoffs.

AGAIN... there's another trade happening. There has to be...

Why does there have to be? I don't get it

Because we are literally the worst team in the NBA right now. Malik Beasley isn't better than Robert Covington. We don't have a single NBA PG on the roster. If you said before the season we would take the roster we had and turn it in to the worst team in the NBA everyone would be freaking out at what the fuck happened. We were supposed to be fringe fighting for a playoff spot and we're now lucky if we can win another 5 games this entire year.

Um we suck before and after the trade. How does that affect whether there's another trade coming? We have guys that can play point guard for a tanking team. Culver Wiggins, mcglaughlin nowell

So now the Wolves are supposed to be nice and friendly? wait what?

Vonleh came here after jacking up a decent amount of 3's. He was playing for a team that clearly wanted guys to get them up. Graham was jacking them up and bricking them. Vonleh took 14 threes the whole season. It was honestly weird. That's 5 more 3's than Bell took. Meanwhile the Wolves ended up playing Dieng over the young guys. I'm guessing his 3 point shooting was part of that but his numbers are pretty good. Do I think Vonleh kinda got a raw end of the deal? Yeah to some extent I think he did but Dieng deserved his minutes for the most part.

The Wolves brought in younger players and some guys that have been able to either make 3's or at least willing to take them. I don't know how McLaughlin has looked the past 4 or so games but in the games I have seen since the Teague trade I've thought he looked pretty solid. Turner isn't going to be any worse than Napier was...and I'm a fan of both of those guys. regardless this team looked like it was gonna suck. Why keep the guys that weren't' working with? Hell Covington wasn't even helping enough...which is kinda surprising.

Is this deal some sort of stroke of genius? no probably not. But the Wolves may have added young talent and a first round pick for Covington. That't kinda good. Will they have to pay Beasley? sure but they have some extra money since Covington is gone. If they decide not to pay any of these guys they will have financial flexibility to do something else. I think Beasley likely has more value around the league than it is assumed buy people down on these deals. Its possible Beasley could end up being an asset in a sign and trade for another player.

[WildWolf2813]

The 16th pick might not actually be that bad. It could net us a guy like RJ Hampton.

Or Justin Patton!

Just saying. It's a crapshoot.

It's a crap shoot, yes, but if we can't believe this team can ever get it right in the draft no matter who's picking, we all need to stop wasting our time here. If he doesn't cash in on some star, he better be able to draft them because otherwise Rosas doesn't serve a purpose.

[AbeVigodaLive]

The 16th pick might not actually be that bad. It could net us a guy like RJ Hampton.

Or Justin Patton!

Just saying. It's a crapshoot.

It's a crap shoot, yes, but if we can't believe this team can ever get it right in the draft no matter who's picking, we all need to stop wasting our time here. If he doesn't cash in on some star, he better be able to draft them because otherwise Rosas doesn't serve a purpose.

Obviously.

Covington is a sure thing though. He's a tangible asset. A known commodity... one coveted by other teams.

I was hoping to find a balance between an actual tangible asset and help for the future. Hopefully, Beasley can be that guy. But there's definitely no guarantee he has the chops.

[WildWolf2813]

The 16th pick might not actually be that bad. It could net us a guy like RJ Hampton.

Or Justin Patton!

Just saying. It's a crapshoot.

It's a crap shoot, yes, but if we can't believe this team can ever get it right in the draft no matter who's picking, we all need to stop wasting our time here. If he doesn't cash in on some star, he better be able to draft them because otherwise Rosas doesn't serve a purpose.

Obviously.

Covington is a sure thing though. He's a tangible asset. A known commodity... one coveted by other teams.

I was hoping to find a balance between an actual tangible asset and help for the future. Hopefully, Beasley can be that guy. But there's definitely no guarantee he has the chops.

Nothing was ever gonna be guaranteed. We can't even guarantee the future whereabouts of a player we signed to a 5 year max. Things this franchise deals with.

[AbeVigodaLive]

The 16th pick might not actually be that bad. It could net us a guy like RJ Hampton.

Or Justin Patton!

Just saying. It's a crapshoot.

It's a crap shoot, yes, but if we can't believe this team can ever get it right in the draft no matter who's picking, we all need to stop wasting our time here. If he doesn't cash in on some star, he better be able to draft them because otherwise Rosas doesn't serve a purpose.

Obviously.

Covington is a sure thing though. He's a tangible asset. A known commodity... one coveted by other teams.

I was hoping to find a balance between an actual tangible asset and help for the future. Hopefully, Beasley can be that guy. But there's definitely no guarantee he has the chops.

Nothing was ever gonna be guaranteed. We can't even guarantee the future whereabouts of a player we signed to a 5 year max. Things this franchise deals with.

Well... there is more of a sure-fire prospect than a guy who's had one above average season out of four... who's expecting a significant raise anyway this summer...

That's sort of my point.

[Monster]

The 16th pick might not actually be that bad. It could net us a guy like RJ Hampton.

Or Justin Patton!

Just saying. It's a crapshoot.

It's a crap shoot, yes, but if we can't believe this team can ever get it right in the draft no matter who's picking, we all need to stop wasting our time here. If he doesn't cash in on some star, he better be able to draft them because otherwise Rosas doesn't serve a purpose.

Obviously.

Covington is a sure thing though. He's a tangible asset. A known commodity... one coveted by other teams.

I was hoping to find a balance between an actual tangible asset and help for the future. Hopefully, Beasley can be that guy. But there's definitely no guarantee he has the chops.

One interesting stat about Beasley in terms of him shooting more poorly this season. Guess what types of shots he is taking more and less of? Yep more midrange (and inside the paint and not at the rim shots) and less at the rim. Why? Idk but if he gets back to shooting more at the rim and 3's and cutting out the other shots (which he didn't shoot a ton before) that would likely push up his efficiency to more acceptable levels. It also sounds like he is well thought of as a person so that doesn't hurt. His advanced numbers defensively are generally not what you want but it seems like looking around that there is some thought he might not be that bad on that end. As we know sometimes those stats can be misleading. I'm at least interested to see what he can do...or...not do. Lol

[Papalrep]

Perhaps our man Gersson is putting together a package of cheap players and an expiring (Evan Turner) and is still chasing DLO.

If not, we draft Haliburton and the sniper from Vanderbilt with the 16th. I'd take either of these options to the shit we had.

[AbeVigodaLive]

The 16th pick might not actually be that bad. It could net us a guy like RJ Hampton.

Or Justin Patton!

Just saying. It's a crapshoot.

It's a crap shoot, yes, but if we can't believe this team can ever get it right in the draft no matter who's picking, we all need to stop wasting our time here. If he doesn't cash in on some star, he better be able to draft them because otherwise Rosas doesn't serve a purpose.

Obviously.

Covington is a sure thing though. He's a tangible asset. A known commodity... one coveted by other teams.

I was hoping to find a balance between an actual tangible asset and help for the future. Hopefully, Beasley can be that guy. But there's definitely no guarantee he has the chops.

One interesting stat about Beasley in terms of him shooting more poorly this season. Guess what types of shots he is taking more and less of? Yep more midrange (and inside the paint and not at the rim shots) and less at the rim. Why? Idk but if he gets back to shooting more at the rim and 3's and cutting out the other shots (which he didn't shoot a ton before) that would likely push up his efficiency to more acceptable levels. It also sounds like he is well thought of as a person so that doesn't hurt. His advanced numbers defensively are generally not what you want but it seems like looking around that there is some thought he might not be that bad on that end. As we know sometimes those stats can be misleading. I'm at least interested to see what he can do...or...not do. Lol

Looks like he'll have every opportunity to make it work if he has the talent. I mean... if he can beat out the last highly coveted trade chip, Allen Crabbe, for minutes.

Obviously, Rosas is trying to improve shooting around the margins. Maybe Crabbe will be the guy. Maybe Beasley. Maybe...

[Monster]

The 16th pick might not actually be that bad. It could net us a guy like RJ Hampton.

Or Justin Patton!

Just saying. It's a crapshoot.

It's a crap shoot, yes, but if we can't believe this team can ever get it right in the draft no matter who's picking, we all need to stop wasting our time here. If he doesn't cash in on some star, he better be able to draft them because otherwise Rosas doesn't serve a purpose.

Obviously.

Covington is a sure thing though. He's a tangible asset. A known commodity... one coveted by other teams.

I was hoping to find a balance between an actual tangible asset and help for the future. Hopefully, Beasley can be that guy. But there's definitely no guarantee he has the chops.

One interesting stat about Beasley in terms of him shooting more poorly this season. Guess what types of shots he is taking more and less of? Yep more midrange (and inside the paint and not at the rim shots) and less at the rim. Why? Idk but if he gets back to shooting more at the rim and 3's and cutting out the other shots (which he didn't shoot a ton before) that would likely push up his efficiency to more acceptable levels. It also sounds like he is well thought of as a person so that doesn't hurt. His advanced numbers defensively are generally not what you want but it seems like looking around that there is some thought he might not be that bad on that end. As we know sometimes those stats can be misleading. I'm at least interested to see what he can do...or...not do. Lol

Looks like he'll have every opportunity to make it work if he has the talent. I mean... if he can beat out the last highly coveted trade chip, Allen Crabbe, for minutes.

Obviously, Rosas is trying to improve shooting around the margins. Maybe Crabbe will be the guy. Maybe Beasley. Maybe...

Yeah these moves on the margins etc...It seems like a long time ago now but Saric used to be on this roster. Rosas moved him to move up in the draft. Drafting Culver doesn't look too good right now but Saric is currently shooting 31% from 3 and kinda meh overall although solid. Maybe Rosas could get some credit for moving on for Saric even if the utilization Of that value hasn't work out. Still a decent chunk of games left for Saric to light it up from 3 I guess. He is having a career year on 2 point FGs and doing most of the other things he has done in the past but it's not exactly awe inspiring (Turns 26 in April) and I'm a Saric fan.