Re: Got Some Nice Help Today
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:12 am
kekgeek1 wrote:sjm34 wrote:kekgeek1 wrote:
I am not saying Teague has been great, but I mean he has better offensive numbers across the board compared to Ricky, he has better defensive numbers across the board. All the advance stats move in favor of Teague. They are not gigantic differences but Teague has been the better player this year. All we can say about Ricky adjusting to a new team can also been said about Teague. Teague is at his lowest Usage rating since his 3rd year in the league (6 years ago).
Besides 15 games this year Ricky has been a bottom half starting PG this year. I still love Ricky and he is one of my favorite wolves players of all time but he is having his worst year as a professional. We would have saved 4.5 mil if we could have kept Rubio. There was no vet that we could of obtained for that price that would have made a legit impact. Also we need to continue to add cheap young talent and we do that with the pick we got. Also it kept the options open at the trade deadline to actually have an asset we could trade if we feel the need to.
The TS% between the two aren't even a point apart right now, and there is no comparison between the defensive abilities regardless of what some advance(?) stats say.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Ricky+Rubio&player_id1_select=Ricky+Rubio&y1=2018&player_id1=rubiori01&idx=players&player_id2_hint=Jeff+Teague&player_id2_select=Jeff+Teague&y2=2018&player_id2=teaguje01&idx=players
My big point is year after year after year, we talked about how how Ricky advanced numbers gave him the advantage and a big plus as a player. Now the numbers are not there and Teague is posting better advance defensive numbers we can't just say oh who cares what the stats say. The Jazz have the 8th best Drating in the NBA and the wolves are 23rd but Teague is still posting better numbers than ricky in that category. Not saying Teague has been great but he has had a better season than Ricky.
I don't put too much stock in comparisons between the two this season. Their respective career stats are much better measures for comparison. Ricky is clearly the better defender, rebounder and playmaker while Teague is clearly the better shooter over their careers. As I said, I would have liked to have seen Ricky play with this much better collection of Wolves talent. But that ship has long since sailed. I like that we have a 1st round pick and Teague isn't a bad player. He seems like a great teammate with a positive effect on team chemistry. When his shot is falling he can be a major positive force in the game. And I actually think he'll get better in this final post-allstar stretch of the season. His playoff experience will be valuable as well. I just don't like Teague's defense, tendency to overdribble and not seen open teammates. Mainly, I don't like his contract.