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Re: Thibs out
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 1:19 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
For a guy that's not that great, he's won a lot of games. Thibs is a top-five coach in the game.
Re: Thibs out
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 1:20 pm
by alexftbl8181 [enjin:6648741]
CoolBreeze44 wrote:One thing is undisputable: Thibs team this year would consistently go through long stretches where they just couldn't score. Scoring is relatively important in the NBA. And it's not like he didn't have the talent. He just sucks on the offensive side of the ball. I don't see any reason to gnash your teeth or wring your hands over not being able to get this guy. He's just not that great.
No other coaches go through long streches where they couldn't do something? Well the Spurs got bounced in the 1st round, Pop must suck. The Clippers choked their playoff series away, Doc must suck. The Hawks got swept, they must suck. The Mavs wern't that good, Carlise must suck.
Re: Thibs out
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 1:30 pm
by Coolbreeze44
alexftbl8181 wrote:CoolBreeze44 wrote:One thing is undisputable: Thibs team this year would consistently go through long stretches where they just couldn't score. Scoring is relatively important in the NBA. And it's not like he didn't have the talent. He just sucks on the offensive side of the ball. I don't see any reason to gnash your teeth or wring your hands over not being able to get this guy. He's just not that great.
No other coaches go through long streches where they couldn't do something? Well the Spurs got bounced in the 1st round, Pop must suck. The Clippers choked their playoff series away, Doc must suck. The Hawks got swept, they must suck. The Mavs wern't that good, Carlise must suck.
I'm sorry, but the correlations you make here are ridiculous. You're better than that.
Re: Thibs out
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 1:35 pm
by alexftbl8181 [enjin:6648741]
CoolBreeze44 wrote:alexftbl8181 wrote:CoolBreeze44 wrote:One thing is undisputable: Thibs team this year would consistently go through long stretches where they just couldn't score. Scoring is relatively important in the NBA. And it's not like he didn't have the talent. He just sucks on the offensive side of the ball. I don't see any reason to gnash your teeth or wring your hands over not being able to get this guy. He's just not that great.
No other coaches go through long streches where they couldn't do something? Well the Spurs got bounced in the 1st round, Pop must suck. The Clippers choked their playoff series away, Doc must suck. The Hawks got swept, they must suck. The Mavs wern't that good, Carlise must suck.
I'm sorry, but the correlations you make here are ridiculous. You're better than that.
well I guess it's no, "he'll run players outta town even though there's never been one such case" but I'll try better next time
Re: Thibs out
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 1:35 pm
by khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]
alexftbl8181 wrote:khans2k5 wrote:It's simple. I don't care about the regular season. It's nice if you have a good team, but my ultimate goal is playoff success which the guy is proven to not have. You can blame injuries and Lebron for it. I think Thibs coaching style has a decent amount to do with the fact he never has a healthy team come the playoffs and quite frankly Lebron didn't play well in that series this year and Chicago still looked out matched. Defensively they have had the firepower to stop Lebron. It's their lack of offense that has always stopped them from beating Lebron and Thibs is the main culprit of that because he is a bad offensive coach. I'd be totally fine just making the postseason dance as a 6 or 7 seed and trying to do some damage than going all out in the regular season and have nothing left in the tank. The last thing I'll say is you don't get to give Lebron credit for carrying this team while simultaneously giving Thibs an out for losing to Lebron this year. 1 player can't win a series by himself so if Lebron is playing with garbage that makes Thibs look worse.
So your talking abut 4? current head coaches that have had more playoff success that he has? And your saying this as a fan from a franchise that has only advanced past the 1st round once in their entire history? Jesus what is wrong with you
He has a sub .500 record in the East playoffs during one of the worst spans of basketball that conference has ever produced. They've never had an easy series. Every single one has been close. I'm not going to apologize for wanting a better coach. If he's such a great coach why did he get fired? Because he wasn't good enough. We could have hired Karl if we just wanted to win regular season games and make it to the playoffs. Most of you were against that strategy so why is Thibs so different when everything he did was while coaching in one of the weakest conferences of all time?
Re: Thibs out
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 1:37 pm
by Coolbreeze44
alexftbl8181 wrote:CoolBreeze44 wrote:alexftbl8181 wrote:CoolBreeze44 wrote:One thing is undisputable: Thibs team this year would consistently go through long stretches where they just couldn't score. Scoring is relatively important in the NBA. And it's not like he didn't have the talent. He just sucks on the offensive side of the ball. I don't see any reason to gnash your teeth or wring your hands over not being able to get this guy. He's just not that great.
No other coaches go through long streches where they couldn't do something? Well the Spurs got bounced in the 1st round, Pop must suck. The Clippers choked their playoff series away, Doc must suck. The Hawks got swept, they must suck. The Mavs wern't that good, Carlise must suck.
I'm sorry, but the correlations you make here are ridiculous. You're better than that.
well I guess it's no, "he'll run players outta town even though there's never been one such case" but I'll try better next time
Maybe start with talking about how Bud was going to be our 3rd offensive option at the beginning of the season last year. He couldn't even get on the court until the whole team was injured. Nice call.
Re: Thibs out
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 1:38 pm
by Coolbreeze44
khans2k5 wrote:alexftbl8181 wrote:khans2k5 wrote:It's simple. I don't care about the regular season. It's nice if you have a good team, but my ultimate goal is playoff success which the guy is proven to not have. You can blame injuries and Lebron for it. I think Thibs coaching style has a decent amount to do with the fact he never has a healthy team come the playoffs and quite frankly Lebron didn't play well in that series this year and Chicago still looked out matched. Defensively they have had the firepower to stop Lebron. It's their lack of offense that has always stopped them from beating Lebron and Thibs is the main culprit of that because he is a bad offensive coach. I'd be totally fine just making the postseason dance as a 6 or 7 seed and trying to do some damage than going all out in the regular season and have nothing left in the tank. The last thing I'll say is you don't get to give Lebron credit for carrying this team while simultaneously giving Thibs an out for losing to Lebron this year. 1 player can't win a series by himself so if Lebron is playing with garbage that makes Thibs look worse.
So your talking abut 4? current head coaches that have had more playoff success that he has? And your saying this as a fan from a franchise that has only advanced past the 1st round once in their entire history? Jesus what is wrong with you
He has a sub .500 record in the East playoffs during one of the worst spans of basketball that conference has ever produced. They've never had an easy series. Every single one has been close. I'm not going to apologize for wanting a better coach. If he's such a great coach why did he get fired? Because he wasn't good enough. We could have hired Karl if we just wanted to win regular season games and make it to the playoffs. Most of you were against that strategy so why is Thibs so different when everything he did was while coaching in one of the weakest conferences of all time?
I once had a dog and his name was BINGO
Re: Thibs out
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 1:47 pm
by Coolbreeze44
I'll admit Thibs has a great reputation across the media and league. But you can't always latch on to everything you hear. Sometimes you have to discriminate between what is fact and what is hype or reputation. I'm willing to go out on a limb and say this guy's rep exceeds his actual ability. I have no doubt he is a not good, but great assistant coach. There is no need to get hostile over someone's opinion on a coach.
Re: Thibs out
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 1:48 pm
by bleedspeed
Who doesn't think Thibs is an upgrade from Flip? The only way I wouldn't hire Thibs is if you have a verbal deal with Hoiberg to coach this team.
Re: Thibs out
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 1:49 pm
by alexftbl8181 [enjin:6648741]
khans2k5 wrote:alexftbl8181 wrote:khans2k5 wrote:It's simple. I don't care about the regular season. It's nice if you have a good team, but my ultimate goal is playoff success which the guy is proven to not have. You can blame injuries and Lebron for it. I think Thibs coaching style has a decent amount to do with the fact he never has a healthy team come the playoffs and quite frankly Lebron didn't play well in that series this year and Chicago still looked out matched. Defensively they have had the firepower to stop Lebron. It's their lack of offense that has always stopped them from beating Lebron and Thibs is the main culprit of that because he is a bad offensive coach. I'd be totally fine just making the postseason dance as a 6 or 7 seed and trying to do some damage than going all out in the regular season and have nothing left in the tank. The last thing I'll say is you don't get to give Lebron credit for carrying this team while simultaneously giving Thibs an out for losing to Lebron this year. 1 player can't win a series by himself so if Lebron is playing with garbage that makes Thibs look worse.
So your talking abut 4? current head coaches that have had more playoff success that he has? And your saying this as a fan from a franchise that has only advanced past the 1st round once in their entire history? Jesus what is wrong with you
He has a sub .500 record in the East playoffs during one of the worst spans of basketball that conference has ever produced. They've never had an easy series. Every single one has been close. I'm not going to apologize for wanting a better coach. If he's such a great coach why did he get fired? Because he wasn't good enough. We could have hired Karl if we just wanted to win regular season games and make it to the playoffs. Most of you were against that strategy so why is Thibs so different when everything he did was while coaching in one of the weakest conferences of all time?
So he lost to the Heat twice when they went on to win the title both times, lost to the Wiz when they had no healthy players, and the 76ers once when Rose went down? That's the standard you have to have for our next coach when we've had Rambis, Flip, Whitman in the past few years?