bleedspeed177 wrote:Interesting you bring up Telfair. I think Jones and Telfair are similar players and except Jones looks to have a better shooter.
Yeah that is interesting to think about. Telfair is probably shorter than Tyus but was plenty quick. Telfair wasn't good enough to be a starter or even top backup for these reasons.
1. (This is really 2 reasons put together in one point) He wasn't a good enough shooter /scorer. He didn't have a good enough outside shot he didn't have midrange he didn't really get to the hoop or finish well enough when he got there. The bottom line was you didn't have to worry about him beating you most nights scoring the ball. He was more functional picking his spots as time went on when he was a backup but he wasn't an asset there and plenty of times was a liability really.
2. While Telfair was good at making PG plays he wasn't on target enough with his passes. He would drive and kick to a guy but it would not hit the guy well enough for him to just get the ball and make a move or take the shot. If he would have been able to deliver those passes on target at a much higher rate we would have seen him be much more valuable. Bottom line was he wasn't good enough at setting guys up to be a real asset in that catagory.
3. His defense wasn't good enough to offset his other liabilities. He was a small guy and it wasn't until his last year or 2 with the Wolves that he seemed to really be anything near useful in that end. Ultimately he was probably at best a decent defender that was at least good at getting digs at the ball when he doubled.
Telfair showed in his last couple years with the Wolves he could run your offense make a few plays not make many mistakes and get hot and score some points once or so every 15-20 games. Decent backup at best not a bad 3rd PG if you want a "you know what you are and aren't getting type"
Contrast that with Tyus. He is probably little bigger (no measurements on Telfair but by my memory he looked like a 6' max guy to me) but less quick. He looks like he may be a much better shooter. His feel for the game and passing looks like it will be better than Telfair. His defensive ceiling might be where Telfair got to but that might be enough if he does enough other things. It just seems to me Tyus has a better feel for the game offensively both passing and scoring and skills than Telfair had/has. If Tyus can be a better shooting more accurate passing Telfair that's a nice backup at the very least. Sometimes the line between legit NBA rotation player and fringe guy isn't very big.