Anthony Edwards makes a pretty big mistake

[kekgeek]

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Never knew Chris Hine was gay. He seemed disappointed. I suppose that speaks more to the importance of the issue to me than whether or not Ant offended a bunch of straight male basketball fans with his comments. I personally wasnt offended, but it sure would be tough for Chris to be all smiles the next time he is in a media scrum with Ant.

Was going to post this today. Like I've been saying all along. Ant said some hurtful shit and feel bad for all that his words affected

[kekgeek]

- It's easy to brush off this incident, and those that are similar to it, because it's largely insignificant and non-threatening. Anthony Edwards made an "oops" as far as judgement and public perception goes. Nobody will remember it happened several months from now, and rightfully so.

- I too have friends in the community. They are rational adults who understand that words only have power if you give them power. They don't care about comments as mild as what was said in Anthony Edwards' video. Actually, several of those friends still refer to things as "gay" despite it having nothing to do with sexual preference. That meeting was gay. Your shoes are gay. Words and their usage change. We don't have to react to everything. We can save our energy for when things are worth getting upset about.

- To that point, my hypothetical daughter in the situation you mentioned would have been raised with a higher threshold of self-worth and would be unfazed by such comments, as would I being her father. The softness of this generation and society in general is alarming. My family and I will not play into it. Try to treat everyone with respect regardless of if it is given to you in return. Be tough enough to ignore stupidity. Never be afraid of confrontation when necessary. It doesn't have to be that complex.

1) Yes on the scale of what he could do done to what Ant actually did it is probably on the lower end of dumbass, I agree. But the only reason you are ok with pushing this under the rug is because it does not affect your day to day life. Like Chris Hine said the LBGTQ community is already seen as an outsider when it comes to sports and now the star player is saying about them "what has this world become" because they wore something that he wouldn't wear in public. Now Chris Hine is going to have to suck it up day in and day out and talk to Ant and cover him when Ant used homophobic rhetoric to generalize a sub section of the population that he fits in.

2) Yes, words only have power when you give them power, I do not disagree with you on that but WORDS FUCKING HURT, especially when it comes from a person of power and your lifestyle is broadcasted around when you were just minding your own business and a dude thought it was cool to make fun of a lifestyle choice while using homophobic language.

3) Sure you can say that you and your daughter would have tough skin because they were raised right and would not let words hurt you. I call bullshit on that. You and Cool (who I see is liking every message you post) once every 3 months because of words that affect you on a message board. That is not to take a shot at you at all that is just to proves WORDS FUCKING HURT and you prove it on this board with leaving so much because words affect you like every human who has ever lived. You can act tough and say have a tough skin but WORD FUCKING HURT and you prove it on this board.

Probably the last thing I will say on this subject. Ant was a dumbass to post this on social media, this will probably go away in a couple of months assuming Ant does not make a fool of himself at media day because he will be asked questions about it and the Wolves have an openly gay beat writer who was hurt by his comments. I hope Ant learns from this and understands where people are coming from. Hopefully this is the last dumb incident we see from Ant. He should not be cancelled and hopefully he helps the wolves win ball games this year. But at the end of the day it takes 2 seconds to be nice and words hurt people so do your best not to hurt people

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

There's a lot to unpack here so I'll try to focus on just a few things.

- I already explained why this "incident" is easy to brush off. Simply, there are numerous comments, stories, and videos daily that are actually upsetting and deserving of the attention. A 10-second video of someone mocking the [flamboyant] appearance of others shouldn't be newsworthy or controversial. He was wrong to upload the video. He apologized. What more do you want?

- You're absolutely right. Chris Hine is going to have to put on his big boy pants and continue to be the professional that he's proven to be thus far in covering the team. Furthermore, he'll have to suck it up and engage in a career that is highly-competitive and certainly sought after by many. I apologize if I just can't feel sorry for the man if his feelings were hurt by what Anthony Edwards said or did nor should it affect his work. I think he'll be just fine.

- I think you're reaching with your third point as it's a poor comparison and lacks sound reasoning. The very fact that Cool and I, for example, still interact from time to time on here despite our differences and past conflicts speaks to what I mentioned before. We move on. There's a heated debate or even insults exchanged and then it's done. He's not hurt by it. I'm not hurt by it. That used to be the norm before this generation of thumb-suckers made their presence felt. Also, for the record, I've taken multiple absences from this board because I no longer felt like it was productive or entertaining for me at that time. I can assure you I do not take these HURTFUL WORDS from a message board personally and into my real life. Understand that.

I do agree with you on the topic of Edwards hopefully learning something from this. He needs to be smarter. He needs to be more conscious of what he posts on social media. He should also recognize that today's society is quick to scrutinize and rebuke those that make a mistake or say something politically incorrect. He's definitely on their radar now so it's even more important that he doesn't repeat this in the future.

[FNG]

I'm not a fan of Chris Hine. I don't find him to be a very insightful analyst or writer, and his twitter feed (when I used to read it) seemed to have as much content about which bar he was at or which song he was listening to as anything meaningful about the Wolves. But...I find it a little arrogant when someone who is not a member of a group that has been targeted by a certain homophobic or racist or misogynist slur instructs someone that is a member of that group how they should feel about the slur. People are entitled to their own feelings, and until you walk in their shoes, you can't understand.

[rapsuperstar31]

There's a lot to unpack here so I'll try to focus on just a few things.

- I already explained why this "incident" is easy to brush off. Simply, there are numerous comments, stories, and videos daily that are actually upsetting and deserving of the attention. A 10-second video of someone mocking the [flamboyant] appearance of others shouldn't be newsworthy or controversial. He was wrong to upload the video. He apologized. What more do you want?

- You're absolutely right. Chris Hine is going to have to put on his big boy pants and continue to be the professional that he's proven to be thus far in covering the team. Furthermore, he'll have to suck it up and engage in a career that is highly-competitive and certainly sought after by many. I apologize if I just can't feel sorry for the man if his feelings were hurt by what Anthony Edwards said or did nor should it affect his work. I think he'll be just fine.

- I think you're reaching with your third point as it's a poor comparison and lacks sound reasoning. The very fact that Cool and I, for example, still interact from time to time on here despite our differences and past conflicts speaks to what I mentioned before. We move on. There's a heated debate or even insults exchanged and then it's done. He's not hurt by it. I'm not hurt by it. That used to be the norm before this generation of thumb-suckers made their presence felt. Also, for the record, I've taken multiple absences from this board because I no longer felt like it was productive or entertaining for me at that time. I can assure you I do not take these HURTFUL WORDS from a message board personally and into my real life. Understand that.

I do agree with you on the topic of Edwards hopefully learning something from this. He needs to be smarter. He needs to be more conscious of what he posts on social media. He should also recognize that today's society is quick to scrutinize and rebuke those that make a mistake or say something politically incorrect. He's definitely on their radar now so it's even more important that he doesn't repeat this in the future.

You sound like old man yells at clouds guy. The world is constantly changing, what was deemed acceptable even 10 years ago, isn't always acceptable today. Ant will be suspended a game or two, fined money, and we will move on. If he keeps doing it, we are going to be in trouble. If you don't think words matter, Sterling would still own the Clippers.

[TheFuture]

Anthony Edwards wants to be a person of influence, I think that is undeniable. This is his first lesson of the scrutiny that will apply to him as a public figure. Ultimately it seems like it was a good learning experience and I hope that he continues to promote positivity and joy which seemed to be his calling cards up to this incident (it probably doesn't merit being an incident but this is where we are). It will be interesting to see this next phase of him no longer being the media darling. I hope he pours all of his energy into being the best basketball player he can be, and can handle not everyone loving him.

There's no reason he can't or won't remain a media darling, if that's in fact what he's been. He'll remain a popular and widely liked celebrity based on his talent, charisma and fun personality. That might change if he points a loaded guy at a family or says something like Tim Hardaway's emphatic comment that he "hates gay people." I don't see Edwards doing anything like that. I think Cam captured my overall thoughts on this. Ant's moment of immaturity and bad judgment will fade fairly quickly as it should. There are so many things happening and said in our world everyday that are far, far worse than Ant's moment of insensitive immaturity that we saw in that short video.

I was with you until the insensitive part.

What is insensitive about what he said? He simply made a comment about what he feels about what other people feel. Should he not be able to feel his own way, as those others may?

If you feel awesome wearing your new outfit, and I say you look like an idiot, should that be a problem?

The guy did nothing wrong. Just a bunch of people screaming about a nothing. Media driven nonsense.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

You sound like old man yells at clouds guy. The world is constantly changing, what was deemed acceptable even 10 years ago, isn't always acceptable today. Ant will be suspended a game or two, fined money, and we will move on. If he keeps doing it, we are going to be in trouble. If you don't think words matter, Sterling would still own the Clippers.

The world is constantly changing, and not always for the better. That's perhaps a conversation for another time, but let us not act like these societal changes are always beneficial because they're not.

I will be shocked if Anthony Edwards is suspended at all for this. I expect either nothing will happen because both he and the organization issued statements or he'll receive a fine comparable to similar offenses of the past. I believe Nikola Jokic and Kevin Durant were mentioned earlier in the thread and they are good examples of how the league has recently handled this kind of behavior.

Also, comparing what Anthony Edwards said or did to Donald Sterling in any way is laughable and entirely dismissible. We need not even mention Sterling in the same context. Save his name for the discussion surrounding Robert Sarver.

[TheFuture]

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Never knew Chris Hine was gay. He seemed disappointed. I suppose that speaks more to the importance of the issue to me than whether or not Ant offended a bunch of straight male basketball fans with his comments. I personally wasnt offended, but it sure would be tough for Chris to be all smiles the next time he is in a media scrum with Ant.

But why? Speaks more to being embarrassed about your own choices.

Everybody has grown up being ridiculed. That was just it. You moved on, came back the next day.

This whole hyper pro gay movement is bullshit.

You want to be gay, then be gay. I don't want to be gay, and I should be able to say whatever the hell I want with zero repercussions.

[TheFuture]

You sound like old man yells at clouds guy. The world is constantly changing, what was deemed acceptable even 10 years ago, isn't always acceptable today. Ant will be suspended a game or two, fined money, and we will move on. If he keeps doing it, we are going to be in trouble. If you don't think words matter, Sterling would still own the Clippers.

The world is constantly changing, and not always for the better. That's perhaps a conversation for another time, but let us not act like these societal changes are always beneficial because they're not.

I will be shocked if Anthony Edwards is suspended at all for this. I expect either nothing will happen because both he and the organization issued statements or he'll receive a fine comparable to similar offenses of the past. I believe Nikola Jokic and Kevin Durant were mentioned earlier in the thread and they are good examples of how the league has recently handled this kind of behavior.

Also, comparing what Anthony Edwards said or did to Donald Sterling in any way is laughable and entirely dismissible. We need not even mention Sterling in the same context. Save his name for the discussion surrounding Robert Sarver.

Yeah, Sterling and Sarver fit the mold of being predators. Ant, and anybody else involved in these types of "problems", are just simply voicing their opinions.

Are gay people not just voicing their opinions/choices?

Nobody cares. Go about your lifestyle and be happy.

[Porckchop]

It amazes me that so many adults let words affect them so much. It all seems so trivial in the grand scheme of things.