Malik Beasley S&T?

[BizarroJerry [enjin:6592520]]

I miss John Randle.

Sign him up!!! I'm pretty sure he would add to our unique ability to foul 3 point shooters!

Haha. He used to terrorize Favre.

[Lipoli390]

We wouldn't get a player back for Beasley nor should we. Get a first or a couple of seconds. If not, keep him.


But let's not get Randle. He's not worth it.

There's no chance of a sign-and-trade deal in which the Wolves only get picks in return. The sign-and-trade mechanism is designed for teams without cap room to acquire a free agent they would otherwise be unable to afford under the salary cap. In this instance, a team interested in signing Beasley but without cap room to extend an offer would use the sign-and-trade mechanism to swap one or more players in exchange for Beasley, thereby satisfying the salary-match requirements of the CBA. Since the Knicks have plenty of cap room to sign Beasley as a free agent, I don't see them giving up picks to get him in a sign-and-trade deal. Instead, they could just extend an offer sheet. I suppose they might do it if they believed that the Wolves would match their offer. But the luxury tax will effectively limit the Wolves ability to match. And if the Wolves first offer to trade Beasley for picks I suspect the Knicks would see right through it and call the Wolves bluff. Then again, who knows.

If the Wolves have any realistic shot at a sign-and-trade with the Knicks, it will likely be Randle. Even though the Knicks have room under the cap to sign Beasley as a free agent with an offer the Wolves wouldn't or couldn't realistically match, they might want to retain their current cap space by exchanging Randle for Beasley. The Knicks need help in their backcourt more than they need Randle and I think Beasley would be a great fit there.

[WildWolf2813]

We wouldn't get a player back for Beasley nor should we. Get a first or a couple of seconds. If not, keep him.


But let's not get Randle. He's not worth it.

There's no chance of a sign-and-trade deal in which the Wolves only get picks in return. The sign-and-trade mechanism is designed for teams without cap room to acquire a free agent they would otherwise be unable to afford under the salary cap. In this instance, a team interested in signing Beasley but without cap room to extend an offer would use the sign-and-trade mechanism to swap one or more players in exchange for Beasley, thereby satisfying the salary-match requirements of the CBA. Since the Knicks have plenty of cap room to sign Beasley as a free agent, I don't see them giving up picks to get him in a sign-and-trade deal. Instead, they could just extend an offer sheet. I suppose they might do it if they believed that the Wolves would match their offer. But the luxury tax will effectively limit the Wolves ability to match. And if the Wolves first offer to trade Beasley for picks I suspect the Knicks would see right through it and call the Wolves bluff. Then again, who knows.

If the Wolves have any realistic shot at a sign-and-trade with the Knicks, it will likely be Randle. Even though the Knicks have room under the cap to sign Beasley as a free agent with an offer the Wolves wouldn't or couldn't realistically match, they might want to retain their current cap space by exchanging Randle for Beasley. The Knicks need help in their backcourt more than they need Randle and I think Beasley would be a great fit there.

The luxury tax would also be an obstacle towards acquiring Randle since he makes $20 mil and Beasley would be a Base Year Compensation deal. The idea of a S&T would be for the Knicks to sign Beasley at an affordable deal for them. Otherwise they can just overpay him knowing the Wolves won't match.

Dane Moore said the compensation for Beasley would probably just be a 2nd rounder.

[Lipoli390]

We wouldn't get a player back for Beasley nor should we. Get a first or a couple of seconds. If not, keep him.


But let's not get Randle. He's not worth it.

There's no chance of a sign-and-trade deal in which the Wolves only get picks in return. The sign-and-trade mechanism is designed for teams without cap room to acquire a free agent they would otherwise be unable to afford under the salary cap. In this instance, a team interested in signing Beasley but without cap room to extend an offer would use the sign-and-trade mechanism to swap one or more players in exchange for Beasley, thereby satisfying the salary-match requirements of the CBA. Since the Knicks have plenty of cap room to sign Beasley as a free agent, I don't see them giving up picks to get him in a sign-and-trade deal. Instead, they could just extend an offer sheet. I suppose they might do it if they believed that the Wolves would match their offer. But the luxury tax will effectively limit the Wolves ability to match. And if the Wolves first offer to trade Beasley for picks I suspect the Knicks would see right through it and call the Wolves bluff. Then again, who knows.

If the Wolves have any realistic shot at a sign-and-trade with the Knicks, it will likely be Randle. Even though the Knicks have room under the cap to sign Beasley as a free agent with an offer the Wolves wouldn't or couldn't realistically match, they might want to retain their current cap space by exchanging Randle for Beasley. The Knicks need help in their backcourt more than they need Randle and I think Beasley would be a great fit there.

The luxury tax would also be an obstacle towards acquiring Randle since he makes $20 mil and Beasley would be a Base Year Compensation deal. The idea of a S&T would be for the Knicks to sign Beasley at an affordable deal for them. Otherwise they can just overpay him knowing the Wolves won't match.

Dane Moore said the compensation for Beasley would probably just be a 2nd rounder.

Beasley wants to get paid. What he wants probably doesn't align with what the Knicks would consider an affordable deal. The Wolves could make a Randle deal work, but they'd have to include a couple other contracts - Evans and Spellman. However, I don't see Rosas having any interest in Randle so I don't see that happening.

Best result for the Wolves would probably be a one-year deal with Beasley at the $3.9M qualifying offer. Then the Wolves would have a year to see if Beasley gets his shit together. If he does, then he'll once again have decent trade value or be worth signing long term next summer. However, I suspect that Beasley won't agree to a one-year QO deal. If I'm right, he'll remain a restricted free agent and at some point some team will make him an offer. The Wolves will then have to decide whether to match.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

I think I'm matching any offer sheet for Malik Beasley nine-million annually or below. We need a contract in that vicinity to match salaries in other trades anyways. Not to mention we retain an asset that right now isn't at its peak value. Beasley will be back or will be bringing something of value back to Minnesota.

[60WinTim]

Lip just mentioned Spellman. I completely tuned out basketball the past year. Is there a reason Spellman seems to have no future with the Wolves? Injury prone? Mental issues?

His handful of G-League games suggests he could contribute...

[Monster]

Let's say Beasley wants out for a better opportunity. Honestly that makes sense. The Wolves drafted a wing some would say a SG. The Wolves also traded for Rubio who will play guard minutes somewhere But he may mean SG minutes will be cut short with his presence also. The Wolves also have Culver and Okogie who are likely to get some sort of minutes. There is still an opportunity for Beasley with the Wolves but it's certainly Much more narrow than it was.

Beasley is obviously in not the best situation after the charges brought against him. He is unlikely to get a big deal unless some of this stuff is less of an issue than it seems to me given the info I have. I could see a team being willing to take a chance on him and give him something decent in terms of a multi year deal. Remember to sign him away from the Wolves it would have to be for at least 2 years.

So Beasley wants out for a better spot. He does have a little bit of leverage. He can decide what he will or won't sign. It's not much but he could just straight up tell the Wolves I don't want to be here let me go somewhere else. The Wolves may not bend to that but he could do it and pull a McCaw and not sign even his qualifying offer. This seems unlikely but I suppose it's possible. Maybe he goes and plays in Europe for a year.

The bottom line is that I could see a path to Beasley leaving the Wolves even though they want him back. I'd guess he will be back but I would not be surprised if Beasley moves on especially if some team with cap space decides they want to give him a decent deal Beasley would be happy with and then give the Wolves some sort of compensation. Let's say the Knicks wanted Beasley and yes they have the cap space to give him a deal the Wolves may or may not match. The Wolves could still say give me an asset and then you and Beasley can work out a price and we won't make you bid things up. That's basically what happened with a couple guys last year like Delon Wright with Memphis and Dallas.

The Wolves still hold the cards with Beasley which is why getting that RFA rights is valuable especially this offseason when few teams have money and...the offseason is insanely short a few guys could get squeezed. I would not be shocked if Beasley doesn't even sign a deal to start the season. I wonder if he would have to be signed for any suspension to be started. I would guess so. It's going to be interesting. I honestly don't care all that much what happens either way but I also feel confident that the Wolves will get something out of Beasley if they don't have him back on the roster. It might not be much they get back but even a 2nd round pick can end up being valuable.

[kekgeek]

Based on a the early money Beasley is getting 12+ million a year.

Plumbee making 8 mil a year. Leonard 10 mil a year

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Malik Beasley has zero leverage. Nada.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Based on a the early money Beasley is getting 12+ million a year.

Plumbee making 8 mil a year. Leonard 10 mil a year

Neither of those guys are in any legal trouble and/or facing a possible suspension from the NBA.