We dumped Corey Brewer

[JasonIsDaMan [enjin:7981157]]

Is this your first day following sports?

There are stories in all 4 major sports leagues about a GM leaving everything in great shape only to have the new hire turn it to crap in less then 5 years. That GM that takes over next is not often the same guy who left before, and it generally takes them 5 years to get things back to where they were.

Terry Ryan has been more successful as a baseball GM than McHale/Khan/Flip have been as basketball GM's. And it is a way tougher job. A basketball GM does not have to worry about a farm system like a baseball or hockey GM, and he only needs to make 15 decisions as opposed to 53 that a football GM needs to make.

I said Terry Ryan is the greatest non-athlete sports figure in my lifetime. He may be the 2nd greatest in Minnesota pro sports history. It pains me to say it, but Grandpa Sports did a pretty good job with the Lakers.

I'll leave you with two thoughts: Your response contained multiple examples of moves that Ryan either had nothing to do with, or in fact weren't that bad of moves at all. If Ryan was so bad, wouldn't you have better examples? And you did it all to stick up for Abe. Really? What's going on there?

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

Is this your first day following sports?

There are stories in all 4 major sports leagues about a GM leaving everything in great shape only to have the new hire turn it to crap in less then 5 years. That GM that takes over next is not often the same guy who left before, and it generally takes them 5 years to get things back to where they were.

Terry Ryan has been more successful as a baseball GM than McHale/Khan/Flip have been as basketball GM's. And it is a way tougher job. A basketball GM does not have to worry about a farm system like a baseball or hockey GM, and he only needs to make 15 decisions as opposed to 53 that a football GM needs to make.

I said Terry Ryan is the greatest non-athlete sports figure in my lifetime. He may be the 2nd greatest in Minnesota pro sports history. It pains me to say it, but Grandpa Sports did a pretty good job with the Lakers.

I'll leave you with two thoughts: Your response contained multiple examples of moves that Ryan either had nothing to do with, or in fact weren't that bad of moves at all. If Ryan was so bad, wouldn't you have better examples? And you did it all to stick up for Abe. Really? What's going on there?

My response had nothing to do with Abe. It had to do with Ryan putting a garbage team on the field every year for the last 3 years. Baseball is the easiest sport to turn around out of all of them because there is only a budget and not a cap and you have way more available players to pick from. We've had probably the worst staff in all of baseball or bottom five at least for the past three years. You can turn prospects into players at any point or vice versa unlike other sports. There's almost no trading in the NFL and basketball rarely sees big names move via trade compared to baseball because of the salary matching needed. You have more decisions to make, but you also have a hundred times more options to get what you want to build your team. Parmelee, Hicks, Nolasco, Pelfrey (least defensible of all), need I go on. Being better than the Wolves management doesn't mean he's been good since taking over. It's not 2006, it's 2014 and he hasn't done much to improve the quality of the team that has played for the last 3 years. He tore it to the studs outside of Mauer and Perkins which is why it has been so bad and will probably be for another year or two. I just can't give him props until Buxton, Sano and some of the pitchers actually turn into something in the big leagues. Until then it is just another rebuild which we are pretty familiar with on how those can go south pretty easily.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

"Baseball is the easiest sport to turn around out of all of them"

This is nonsense. You can go from worst to good in the matter of one year in every sport except baseball. It's a process with that sport. Developing from the bottom of the farm up. So difficult.

[Carlos Danger]

"Baseball is the easiest sport to turn around out of all of them"

This is nonsense. You can go from worst to good in the matter of one year in every sport except baseball. It's a process with that sport. Developing from the bottom of the farm up. So difficult.

Twins went worst to first in 1990 to 1991. Boston just did it recently (2012 to 2013). I'm not saying it's easy. But it happens.

[Carlos Danger]

Terry Ryan is the best Minnesota Non-playing Sports Figure of my lifetime. Better than the Grant/Finks team. Better than the McPhail/Kelly team. Better than Herb Brooks. Better than Dennis Green. Better than the Bobby Clarke/Bob Gainey team. Better than Clem Haskins. WAY better than Jerry Burns, Lou Nanne, Brad Childress, Jacques Lemaire, Glenn Mason, or Doug Woog. Which is truly amazing, when you consider the possible exception of Norm Green, he has had the worse boss out of anyone on this list.

Running an NBA team is 15 good decisions. A MLB team? Try about 175, and that's if the Minor league teams have 25 players each (they may have more). When you factor in a payroll in the bottom 10 for most of that stretch? Outstanding.

Stay in your lane. The NBA, and the Wolves especially, are fertile ground. We just saw "GM" Stan Van Gundy say no to a trade for Josh Smith that would have got him Carl Landry, only to waive the guy 25 or 30 games later. Terry Ryan has nothing even remotely close to that in his past. The NBA: Where Amazing Happens.

You have no business second guessing Terry Ryan.

Wow. That's some high praise. I'm curious though...were you born before or after 1991? Because Andy MacPhail was the GM for the only two championship teams (1987 and 1991). Maybe I'm older than you, but MacPail would get my vote over Ryan. Championships are a pretty good way to measure GM success IMO. Ryan has had a lot of years as GM and no championships to show for it.

[AbeVigodaLive]

I don't remember ripping Terry Ryan. I simply noted that the Twins have had some guys play well after they left. That might not be on Ryan. As somebody else noted, there could be many things/people to blame.

For example, letting Ortiz pull the ball might have been a good thing for him to do. The former pitching coach had a very uneven history working with guys. I didn't mean to blame Terry Ryan at all... probably why his name wasn't even mentioned.


[Note: We seem to agree on Point #1. Especially since Ray Allen never played for the Wolves.]

[Volans19]

Corey Brewer tonight in the 3rd qtr. 13 min, 4-5 from three, 18 points. What. The. Hell

Edit: 16 min, 6-7 from three, 24 points. Fuck off

[Coolbreeze44]

Love that guy

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

Corey Brewer tonight in the 3rd qtr. 13 min, 4-5 from three, 18 points. What. The. Hell

Edit: 16 min, 6-7 from three, 24 points. Fuck off

In 24 games with the Wolves this year, Brewer made 8 3 pointers. He's now almost doubled that in 3 games with Houston. A couple of thoughts come to mind. The first is this:

AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH! WHY! WHY! WHY!

The second, more rational thought is this: I believe Houston gives its players absolute freedom to launch 3's, meaning guys take them with confidence, knowing that the shot is encouraged. If you miss, so what? Just fire away! I wonder if that really helps guys with confidence issues and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy?

[mjs34]

Couple of things on Cory. First, he probably has absolutely no defensive attention playing for Houston, and has 5 seconds to line up a shot. And B, he has always been a streaky shooter, and the numbers he put up while with us are similar to what he did for other teams. I'm sure his confidence and better attitude is helping, but he will likely come back down to earth.

Do I have to point out that Daniels scored 14 pts in 9 minutes on 5/6 shooting for us.