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Re: Wolves/Clips: So we're not gonna play shabazz or a Pek/Dieng combo

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:19 pm
by Mstermisty [enjin:6864008]
So there are now 9 games left. We have nothing to gain by either winning or losing. Does Shabazz finally start seeing some regular minutes?

What a joke.

Re: Wolves/Clips: So we're not gonna play shabazz or a Pek/Dieng combo

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:21 pm
by ace [enjin:6598567]
I would love to see Shabazz start at the 3 with Brewer at the 2. Put Martin on the 2nd unit and let him go iso for bench scoring.

Re: Wolves/Clips: So we're not gonna play shabazz or a Pek/Dieng combo

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:24 pm
by alexftbl8181 [enjin:6648741]
longstrangetrip wrote:
alexftbl8181 wrote:
longstrangetrip wrote:
kms789 wrote:OKC didn't play Lamb or Reggie Jackson their rookie years. Houston didn't play Terrence Jones his rookie year. Patty Mills didn't play in San Antonio until this year. It happens everywhere. Rookies need to improve.

Seeing him every single day, Adelman has a better idea of what Shabazz needs to work on than you do. And if you watched Gorgui play during Summer League and Preseason, it would only serve as a testament that you CAN improve while not playing.

Let's talk about this year, not the past...Adelman was way out of line with the rest of the coaches in the league this year when it came to playing their rookies. Look at Anthony Bennett. Did he need seasoning? I guess...he missed his first 20 shots of the season. But Cleveland kept running him out there anyway. And it was the same story with every other coach in the league. So, as Wolves fans we need to make a decision...whose strategy in playing rookies is the right one? Adelman's, or every other coach. I'm going to go with the majority on this one, and keep whining about Adelman.

That said, you make a valid point about Dieng improving while sitting on the bench, because he was terrible in Summer League. But I would argue that he still would have had plenty of time to improve by watching even if Rick had given him 20 minutes, and likely would have benefited by getting some live experience too.

I think Adelman's rookie strategy is indefensible.


20 minutes? So whose minutes are you taking away from Turiaf and Pek? If Deing got Turiaf's minutes when Turiaf was playing well, people would have freaked out.

Do you really think people would have freaked out about Dieng taking away minutes from Turiaf? Jeez, Turiaf is one of my favorite guys, but it wouldn't have bothered me at all. If Rick had given 20 minutes to Dieng, we could have seen what he could do at PF, and maybe limiting Pek's minutes might have prevented all of his injuries.


I guess its easy being captain hindsight

Re: Wolves/Clips: So we're not gonna play shabazz or a Pek/Dieng combo

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:27 pm
by longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]
alexftbl8181 wrote:
longstrangetrip wrote:
alexftbl8181 wrote:
longstrangetrip wrote:
kms789 wrote:OKC didn't play Lamb or Reggie Jackson their rookie years. Houston didn't play Terrence Jones his rookie year. Patty Mills didn't play in San Antonio until this year. It happens everywhere. Rookies need to improve.

Seeing him every single day, Adelman has a better idea of what Shabazz needs to work on than you do. And if you watched Gorgui play during Summer League and Preseason, it would only serve as a testament that you CAN improve while not playing.

Let's talk about this year, not the past...Adelman was way out of line with the rest of the coaches in the league this year when it came to playing their rookies. Look at Anthony Bennett. Did he need seasoning? I guess...he missed his first 20 shots of the season. But Cleveland kept running him out there anyway. And it was the same story with every other coach in the league. So, as Wolves fans we need to make a decision...whose strategy in playing rookies is the right one? Adelman's, or every other coach. I'm going to go with the majority on this one, and keep whining about Adelman.

That said, you make a valid point about Dieng improving while sitting on the bench, because he was terrible in Summer League. But I would argue that he still would have had plenty of time to improve by watching even if Rick had given him 20 minutes, and likely would have benefited by getting some live experience too.

I think Adelman's rookie strategy is indefensible.


20 minutes? So whose minutes are you taking away from Turiaf and Pek? If Deing got Turiaf's minutes when Turiaf was playing well, people would have freaked out.

Do you really think people would have freaked out about Dieng taking away minutes from Turiaf? Jeez, Turiaf is one of my favorite guys, but it wouldn't have bothered me at all. If Rick had given 20 minutes to Dieng, we could have seen what he could do at PF, and maybe limiting Pek's minutes might have prevented all of his injuries.


I guess its easy being captain hindsight

I guess I must have missed the huge "Play Ronny more!" movement. But I'll take your word that fans would have revolted if Dieng had taken away his minutes :roll:

Re: Wolves/Clips: So we're not gonna play shabazz or a Pek/Dieng combo

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:30 pm
by longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]
Mstermisty wrote:So there are now 9 games left. We have nothing to gain by either winning or losing. Does Shabazz finally start seeing some regular minutes?

What a joke.

Mstermisty wrote:So there are now 9 games left. We have nothing to gain by either winning or losing. Does Shabazz finally start seeing some regular minutes?

What a joke.

Does Shabazz start getting regular minutes? Does the sun rise in the west tomorrow?

Rick's MO has been to give Shabazz dnp-cd's after good games. I expect that to continue.

Re: Wolves/Clips: So we're not gonna play shabazz or a Pek/Dieng combo

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:31 pm
by Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
Wow, that was just a bullshit effort by our starters tonight. I know Love put up some decent numbers, but this is the second night in a row that he's either mailed it in or "not felt quite right". His defense was atrocious. Same with Martin. Rubio was off tonight too. Adelman was absolutely right to sit their asses down for the entire 4th quarter. I know our starters have been terrific for most of the season, but it's disappointing to see them pretty much give up. At least try to end the season on a high note.....

On the bright side, all three of our rookies played very well: Hummel, Dieng, and Shabazz.

Re: Wolves/Clips: So we're not gonna play shabazz or a Pek/Dieng combo

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:32 pm
by Porckchop
Is there a better time to be betting against our Wolves? The Clips were only giving 3 on the back end of a back to back! Im not even a gambler and had to throw 5 bills on that action. Theyve mailed it in as far as I can see.

Re: Wolves/Clips: So we're not gonna play shabazz or a Pek/Dieng combo

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:36 pm
by Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
I don't have a problem with bringing rookies along slowly and giving the benefit of the doubt to more established vets. I just think Adelman strung it out too long and too sparingly. If our bench was already very good, then fine. But that was never the case this year.

Re: Wolves/Clips: So we're not gonna play shabazz or a Pek/Dieng combo

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:40 pm
by Mstermisty [enjin:6864008]
Love has checked out.

The question is, has he checked out of the season, or the franchise?

Re: Wolves/Clips: So we're not gonna play shabazz or a Pek/Dieng combo

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:46 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
Dieng and Shabazz have potential to be starters on this team. I actually do believe that.