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Re: Wolves Non-Durant Trade Ideas
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:20 pm
by Q-is-here
kekgeek wrote: ↑Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:01 pm
Rumors today are the Jazz are trying to trade Sexton and Clarkson. Also previous reports are the Jazz are sick of taking and want to improve this offseason.
With that said thoughts on
Jazz get Randle, DDV, 17, (maybe 31)
For
Wolves get Sexton, Collins, #5
Jazz get two win now vets that can help them improve what is reported they want to do also they don’t trade out of the draft.
Wolves get a potential PG of the future in Sexton (I’m high on Sexton), get a solid forward in Collins and the wolves get a high upside swing at 5.
Interesting. Say more about Sexton. My first impression upon hearing his name is that he's a bit of an empty stats guy that might be good for some decent regular season production but wouldn't be able to withstand the crucible of playoff basketball, similar to his old running mate Darius Garland. But I'd be interested in your take.
Re: Wolves Non-Durant Trade Ideas
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 6:05 pm
by kekgeek
Q-is-here wrote: ↑Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:20 pm
kekgeek wrote: ↑Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:01 pm
Rumors today are the Jazz are trying to trade Sexton and Clarkson. Also previous reports are the Jazz are sick of taking and want to improve this offseason.
With that said thoughts on
Jazz get Randle, DDV, 17, (maybe 31)
For
Wolves get Sexton, Collins, #5
Jazz get two win now vets that can help them improve what is reported they want to do also they don’t trade out of the draft.
Wolves get a potential PG of the future in Sexton (I’m high on Sexton), get a solid forward in Collins and the wolves get a high upside swing at 5.
Interesting. Say more about Sexton. My first impression upon hearing his name is that he's a bit of an empty stats guy that might be good for some decent regular season production but wouldn't be able to withstand the crucible of playoff basketball, similar to his old running mate Darius Garland. But I'd be interested in your take.
So he is sort of bull in a China shop. He attacks a ton and he has done it efficiently his whole career. He’s 6’3 so two inches on garland. He has shot over 37% from 3 every year of his career besides 1 year. (Over 39% the last 3 years). His assist numbers are low but he was in the 97th percentile of % of shots his teammates made came from his passes, 90th percentile the previous year. He is in the 77th percentile in AST/usage rating. So he even though his assist numbers are not high those numbers suggest he is not a ball hog. He turns the ball over too much. He is a solid defender but he works his ass off, so many clips online of him diving on the floor and busting his ass to keep possessions alive.
Now he is probably a lower end starting PG and he has never been in the playoffs with that said he has had terrible teammates. His best teammates have been young garland, post LeBron Klove and Markannan.
He makes 18 million next and then a free agent so if it does not work they can move on.
The reason I don’t mind the trade is you take a educated flyer at PG who can create his own shot efficiently (unknown in the playoffs), Collins is a serviceable PF and him and Naz would help with the blow of losing Randle and then we get a high upside swing at #5. Where they could go in multiple directions. Tre Johnson, Knupel, Bailey, the Duke center or if a player falls.
Re: Wolves Non-Durant Trade Ideas
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 6:17 pm
by WildWolf2813
kekgeek wrote: ↑Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:01 pm
Rumors today are the Jazz are trying to trade Sexton and Clarkson. Also previous reports are the Jazz are sick of taking and want to improve this offseason.
With that said thoughts on
Jazz get Randle, DDV, 17, (maybe 31)
For
Wolves get Sexton, Collins, #5
Jazz get two win now vets that can help them improve what is reported they want to do also they don’t trade out of the draft.
Wolves get a potential PG of the future in Sexton (I’m high on Sexton), get a solid forward in Collins and the wolves get a high upside swing at 5.
would I rather have Sexton, Collins and the 5th pick
or
Towns?
I'd rather have Towns.
The only positive in a deal like this is that it all but guarantees us Maluach.
Re: Wolves Non-Durant Trade Ideas
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 6:32 pm
by FNG
Kek, interesting trade idea and I like getting the 5th pick, but I've never liked Sexton much. Terrible defender, and not really a PG...basketball reference called him a PG his first two seasons, but a SG every year after that. I also really question whether he is really 6-3...he looks more like 6-1 to me, but who knows.
Re: Wolves Non-Durant Trade Ideas
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:44 pm
by AussieWolf3
kekgeek wrote: ↑Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:01 pm
Rumors today are the Jazz are trying to trade Sexton and Clarkson. Also previous reports are the Jazz are sick of taking and want to improve this offseason.
With that said thoughts on
Jazz get Randle, DDV, 17, (maybe 31)
For
Wolves get Sexton, Collins, #5
Jazz get two win now vets that can help them improve what is reported they want to do also they don’t trade out of the draft.
Wolves get a potential PG of the future in Sexton (I’m high on Sexton), get a solid forward in Collins and the wolves get a high upside swing at 5.
I like this trade. I don't know a lot about Sexton but I think there is potential there, and having a legit bucket getter next to Ant isn't a bad idea imo. I'm not that sure of him as a PG, but worth a shot.
Collin is a nice player, and the 5th pick would be a big get but tbh I don't know anything about draft prospects this year.
Re: Wolves Non-Durant Trade Ideas
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:47 pm
by Jester1534
My buddy asked this question today what would it take to hypothetically move to the #1 spot for Cooper Flagg?
Re: Wolves Non-Durant Trade Ideas
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 8:00 pm
by WildWolf2813
Jester1534 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:47 pm
My buddy asked this question today what would it take to hypothetically move to the #1 spot for Cooper Flagg?
Edwards
Re: Wolves Non-Durant Trade Ideas
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 8:12 pm
by AussieWolf3
WildWolf2813 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 18, 2025 8:00 pm
Jester1534 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:47 pm
My buddy asked this question today what would it take to hypothetically move to the #1 spot for Cooper Flagg?
Edwards
I'm sure you're being flippant, but Edwards is worth significantly more than the number 1 overall pick
Re: Wolves Non-Durant Trade Ideas
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 8:19 pm
by Q-is-here
kekgeek wrote: ↑Wed Jun 18, 2025 6:05 pm
Q-is-here wrote: ↑Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:20 pm
kekgeek wrote: ↑Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:01 pm
Rumors today are the Jazz are trying to trade Sexton and Clarkson. Also previous reports are the Jazz are sick of taking and want to improve this offseason.
With that said thoughts on
Jazz get Randle, DDV, 17, (maybe 31)
For
Wolves get Sexton, Collins, #5
Jazz get two win now vets that can help them improve what is reported they want to do also they don’t trade out of the draft.
Wolves get a potential PG of the future in Sexton (I’m high on Sexton), get a solid forward in Collins and the wolves get a high upside swing at 5.
Interesting. Say more about Sexton. My first impression upon hearing his name is that he's a bit of an empty stats guy that might be good for some decent regular season production but wouldn't be able to withstand the crucible of playoff basketball, similar to his old running mate Darius Garland. But I'd be interested in your take.
So he is sort of bull in a China shop. He attacks a ton and he has done it efficiently his whole career. He’s 6’3 so two inches on garland. He has shot over 37% from 3 every year of his career besides 1 year. (Over 39% the last 3 years). His assist numbers are low but he was in the 97th percentile of % of shots his teammates made came from his passes, 90th percentile the previous year. He is in the 77th percentile in AST/usage rating. So he even though his assist numbers are not high those numbers suggest he is not a ball hog. He turns the ball over too much. He is a solid defender but he works his ass off, so many clips online of him diving on the floor and busting his ass to keep possessions alive.
Now he is probably a lower end starting PG and he has never been in the playoffs with that said he has had terrible teammates. His best teammates have been young garland, post LeBron Klove and Markannan.
He makes 18 million next and then a free agent so if it does not work they can move on.
The reason I don’t mind the trade is you take a educated flyer at PG who can create his own shot efficiently (unknown in the playoffs), Collins is a serviceable PF and him and Naz would help with the blow of losing Randle and then we get a high upside swing at #5. Where they could go in multiple directions. Tre Johnson, Knupel, Bailey, the Duke center or if a player falls.
Well, you got me intrigued Kek. I didn't realize he was known for being such a hustler on defense.
As for his height, he measured out at only 6'0.5" without shoes at the NBA combine, which is a half inch shorter than Dillingham. He does have a longer wingspan and outweighs him by 15 lbs. or so (perhaps more now that Collin has been in the league for a few years).
I kind of feel like we already have a younger version of Sexton (and Garland for that matter) in Rob Dillingham. Obviously those two guys are highly proven NBA players, but they all seem to have a very similar archetype.
As for the overall trade you propose, it seems like a good deal for the Wolves. I just don't see a huge difference between Randle + DDV and Sexton + Collins from Utah's perspective. And they'd give us #5 in exchange for #17 to boot! It doesn't make much sense to me for Utah.....
Re: Wolves Non-Durant Trade Ideas
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 9:19 pm
by Crazysauce
Seems like Houston is willing to give away Jalen Green. Wouldnt mind taking a flyer on him depending on the price.