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guest81 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 1:27 pm Guys the 13th-15th guys on a roster have never in the history of the NBA, have contributed to a team winning a championship. This is not something to have the slightest thought over

I have made this post before

D-Loser25 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 3:06 pm

guest81 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 1:27 pm Guys the 13th-15th guys on a roster have never in the history of the NBA, have contributed to a team winning a championship. This is not something to have the slightest thought over

I hate it when people say this. What a cop out. No, you actually use these 3 spots to bring in at least a couple young guys to see if they can be developed.

You’re saying that instead of signing Naz Reid (I know he was probably a 2 way at first, but should be the same thing) as an undrafted rookie, we should have signed some old guy who never plays? We already have mike for that and we should be at the point now where we don’t need either.

TC is a lazy disappointment

On the flip side you have what Jingles brings though, he's not going to be pushing to play either so his attitude for not playing versus a guy you don't know who could be cancerous. Risk of player unknown is a thing too.

I'm a little surprised a bit as well, don't love it but I'm fine with it, understand it and like his value off the court and in the locker room.

I suppose ideally you try and develop a younger guy, but how many Naz Reids are there out there without the opportunity to play? We're already deep enough right now that playing time is at a minimum. And Joe can still play if need be!

There is a known value Jingles brings, chemistry, coaching, leadership, and play OK if needed, etc... It's fine.

Coolbreeze44 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:02 pm

guest81 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 1:27 pm Guys the 13th-15th guys on a roster have never in the history of the NBA, have contributed to a team winning a championship. This is not something to have the slightest thought over

I have made this post before

Yes, but just because a guy is added to a roster that already has 12 to 14 players doesn’t mean the last guy added is a 13th-15th guy who won’t matter. I think the issue with re-signing Ingles is that it’s money tied up in someone who likely can’t add value on the court under any circumstances. I think there are many, my self included, who would like the 13th or 14th guy we add to be someone who could step into the rotation and play a positive role if needed. We have only so much room under the 2nd apron so it behooves the organization to get the most out of every dollar spent.

Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:07 pm

Coolbreeze44 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:02 pm

guest81 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 1:27 pm Guys the 13th-15th guys on a roster have never in the history of the NBA, have contributed to a team winning a championship. This is not something to have the slightest thought over

I have made this post before

Yes, but just because a guy is added to a roster that already has 12 to 14 players doesn’t mean the last guy added is a 13th-15th guy who won’t matter. I think the issue with re-signing Ingles is that it’s money tied up in someone who likely can’t add value on the court under any circumstances. I think there are many, my self included, who would like the 13th or 14th guy we add to be someone who could step into the rotation and play a positive role if needed. We have only so much room under the 2nd apron so it behooves the organization to get the most out of every dollar spent.

I wonder how many 13th to 15th roster guys you could actually name in wolves history

guest81 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:23 pm

Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:07 pm

Coolbreeze44 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:02 pm

I have made this post before

Yes, but just because a guy is added to a roster that already has 12 to 14 players doesn’t mean the last guy added is a 13th-15th guy who won’t matter. I think the issue with re-signing Ingles is that it’s money tied up in someone who likely can’t add value on the court under any circumstances. I think there are many, my self included, who would like the 13th or 14th guy we add to be someone who could step into the rotation and play a positive role if needed. We have only so much room under the 2nd apron so it behooves the organization to get the most out of every dollar spent.

I wonder how many 13th to 15th roster guys you could actually name in wolves history

I'm following this to see Lip's list because I bet he can name quite a few.

I also think that saying Ingles can't add any value under any circumstances is going a little too far. He played 114 mins last year and I wouldn't make a total assement of pretty much any player that played that little.

Good signing. Ingles didn't do much last year, because we didn't need him. But he's a decent insurance policy in case the injury bug bites us bad. He'll be 38, but just two years ago he made 70 out of 161 threes (43.5%) and averaged 3 assists/1 turnover in 18 minutes. I don't think Joe will see much court time, but he'll be the first guy off the bench to high five when time is called...and I think that means a lot to some of our young guys. I look at this as possibly a cheap insurance policy, but more likely a bridge to an assistant coaching role.

guest81 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:23 pm

Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:07 pm

Coolbreeze44 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:02 pm

I have made this post before

Yes, but just because a guy is added to a roster that already has 12 to 14 players doesn’t mean the last guy added is a 13th-15th guy who won’t matter. I think the issue with re-signing Ingles is that it’s money tied up in someone who likely can’t add value on the court under any circumstances. I think there are many, my self included, who would like the 13th or 14th guy we add to be someone who could step into the rotation and play a positive role if needed. We have only so much room under the 2nd apron so it behooves the organization to get the most out of every dollar spent.

I wonder how many 13th to 15th roster guys you could actually name in wolves history

I have no idea what players were the 13th, 14th or 15 players added to team rosters over the years. I think Durant was the last guy, probably the 15th player, added to the Warriors roster when they signed him as a free agent. The use of the term 13th, 14th or 15th guy is misleading. My point is that the Wolves still need to add a rotation defensive big and/or possibly a rotation PG and we only have a few roster spots with limited room under the second apron to do so. Ingles takes a roster spot and uses about $2.3M of our remaining room under the second apron. Signing him is something I would defer until I’m certain i have no shot at landing another rotation caliber big or PG.

Monster wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:34 pm

guest81 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:23 pm

Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:07 pm

Yes, but just because a guy is added to a roster that already has 12 to 14 players doesn’t mean the last guy added is a 13th-15th guy who won’t matter. I think the issue with re-signing Ingles is that it’s money tied up in someone who likely can’t add value on the court under any circumstances. I think there are many, my self included, who would like the 13th or 14th guy we add to be someone who could step into the rotation and play a positive role if needed. We have only so much room under the 2nd apron so it behooves the organization to get the most out of every dollar spent.

I wonder how many 13th to 15th roster guys you could actually name in wolves history

I'm following this to see Lip's list because I bet he can name quite a few.

I also think that saying Ingles can't add any value under any circumstances is going a little too far. He played 114 mins last year and I wouldn't make a total assement of pretty much any player that played that little.

My hyperbole was only a very slight exaggeration. Honestly, do we really want to see Ingles filling in as a rotation guy in the event some players get hurt? I’d feel ok with JMac filling in that role if necessary for a while but no Joe.

guest81 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:23 pm

Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:07 pm

Coolbreeze44 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:02 pm

I have made this post before

Yes, but just because a guy is added to a roster that already has 12 to 14 players doesn’t mean the last guy added is a 13th-15th guy who won’t matter. I think the issue with re-signing Ingles is that it’s money tied up in someone who likely can’t add value on the court under any circumstances. I think there are many, my self included, who would like the 13th or 14th guy we add to be someone who could step into the rotation and play a positive role if needed. We have only so much room under the 2nd apron so it behooves the organization to get the most out of every dollar spent.

I wonder how many 13th to 15th roster guys you could actually name in wolves history

Guest81, What are you defining as the "13th to 15th roster guys"? Are you talking about where they stand in the actual depth chart? Their contract amount? Or in what order they were acquired and signed to the team?

As it relates to the first definition - the depth chart - you do realize that it's possible the Wolves could sign someone with the TPMLE that could leapfrog the 13th-15th guys on the depth chart and actually be someone that might be in the regular rotation or at least be "next man up" the second someone in the main rotation gets hurt? That's not a trivial thing.

Not a fan of the signing but it's whatever. We don't really need end of the bench veteran presence players anymore coming off multiple conference final trips.