Next Moves for the Wolves
- crazy-canuck [enjin:18955461]
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Re: Next Moves for the Wolves
Woj and lowe also mentioned that cov is on Houston's radar and the only piece that could be traded is capela. Rockets believe hartelstein is ready for more minutes.
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crazy-canuck wrote:Woj and lowe also mentioned that cov is on Houston's radar and the only piece that could be traded is capela. Rockets believe hartelstein is ready for more minutes.
It may not be a popular opinion, but I would take a Capela for Covington trade in a heartbeat. Capela grinds, rebounds, sets good screens and protects the rim. We would have to dump this dumb 5 out strategy that doesn't fit our talent, but I think we would be much better with him at the 5 and KAT at the 4 than what we have now with 5 out. I have no idea why Houston does that trade though. They would have no big men on that team.
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khans2k5 wrote:crazy-canuck wrote:Woj and lowe also mentioned that cov is on Houston's radar and the only piece that could be traded is capela. Rockets believe hartelstein is ready for more minutes.
It may not be a popular opinion, but I would take a Capela for Covington trade in a heartbeat. Capela grinds, rebounds, sets good screens and protects the rim. We would have to dump this dumb 5 out strategy that doesn't fit our talent, but I think we would be much better with him at the 5 and KAT at the 4 than what we have now with 5 out. I have no idea why Houston does that trade though. They would have no big men on that team.
I'd do that deal also. Capella is a good player on a pretty good contract that turns 26 next year. Houston does have Tyson Chandler around. Is a big wing defender like Covington worth more against the LA teams than a guy like Capella in the playoffs?
I'm not excited about trading Covington BUT if teams basically get into a bidding war and you start getting a nice chunk of assets back including at least one guy that can play now I would be plenty intrigued. I'm curious what Cool would think we could get or what he realistically would want in a Milwaukee package.
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monsterpile wrote:khans2k5 wrote:crazy-canuck wrote:Woj and lowe also mentioned that cov is on Houston's radar and the only piece that could be traded is capela. Rockets believe hartelstein is ready for more minutes.
It may not be a popular opinion, but I would take a Capela for Covington trade in a heartbeat. Capela grinds, rebounds, sets good screens and protects the rim. We would have to dump this dumb 5 out strategy that doesn't fit our talent, but I think we would be much better with him at the 5 and KAT at the 4 than what we have now with 5 out. I have no idea why Houston does that trade though. They would have no big men on that team.
I'd do that deal also. Capella is a good player on a pretty good contract that turns 26 next year. Houston does have Tyson Chandler around. Is a big wing defender like Covington worth more against the LA teams than a guy like Capella in the playoffs?
The big the rockets want to find minutes for hartenstein. His defense looks solid and hes another floor stretcher. Guy has a net rtg of +18 this year and a +10 last year.
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khans2k5 wrote:crazy-canuck wrote:Woj and lowe also mentioned that cov is on Houston's radar and the only piece that could be traded is capela. Rockets believe hartelstein is ready for more minutes.
It may not be a popular opinion, but I would take a Capela for Covington trade in a heartbeat. Capela grinds, rebounds, sets good screens and protects the rim. We would have to dump this dumb 5 out strategy that doesn't fit our talent, but I think we would be much better with him at the 5 and KAT at the 4 than what we have now with 5 out. I have no idea why Houston does that trade though. They would have no big men on that team.
Agreed on all points. Swapping Covington for Capela would be a big win for Minnesota -- and it could be a big win for Houston if they have another plan at center. The Wolves would be ditching this silly 1-3-1 vision and instead going big, but in a very modern way. They'd also likely improve on both ends despite trading the former All-Defensive Teamer in Covington for two reasons. First, Capela is a much better defender in space and rim protector than Towns. At a key defensive position, that definitely matters. Secondly, shifting Towns over to the four would likely make his individual game that much easier. He's bigger than all fours not named Al Horford and would pummel defenders inside or simply shoot over them. Towns may also be a better shot blocker from the weak side rather than the main defensive presence.
In the end, I doubt Gersson Rosas abandons his make believe Warriors/Rockers dream that he has in his head, but I'd rather see this team go big than go small any day.
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monsterpile wrote:khans2k5 wrote:crazy-canuck wrote:Woj and lowe also mentioned that cov is on Houston's radar and the only piece that could be traded is capela. Rockets believe hartelstein is ready for more minutes.
It may not be a popular opinion, but I would take a Capela for Covington trade in a heartbeat. Capela grinds, rebounds, sets good screens and protects the rim. We would have to dump this dumb 5 out strategy that doesn't fit our talent, but I think we would be much better with him at the 5 and KAT at the 4 than what we have now with 5 out. I have no idea why Houston does that trade though. They would have no big men on that team.
I'd do that deal also. Capella is a good player on a pretty good contract that turns 26 next year. Houston does have Tyson Chandler around. Is a big wing defender like Covington worth more against the LA teams than a guy like Capella in the playoffs?
I'm not excited about trading Covington BUT if teams basically get into a bidding war and you start getting a nice chunk of assets back including at least one guy that can play now I would be plenty intrigued. I'm curious what Cool would think we could get or what he realistically would want in a Milwaukee package.
No thank you on Capela, he is solid but overrated and dosen't move the needle for the Wolves, he is really expensive and if the Wolves did that trade the Wolves would start 3 massive non shooters. Also eliminates spacing if Kat wants to post up.
No to Capela and I know he was talk about yesterday but also massive no to Adams the most overrated player in the NBA.
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Soooo basically that would be Jimmy Butler for Clint Capella and Jarret Culver??
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BizarroJerry wrote:Soooo basically that would be Jimmy Butler for Clint Capella and Jarret Culver??
Actually it is sort of Jimmy and the 11th pick for Culver, Capela, a 2nd and 8 million in cap relief (Bayless expiring)
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BizarroJerry wrote:Soooo basically that would be Jimmy Butler for Clint Capella and Jarret Culver??
In a nutshell, we would have turned Zach LaVine, Kris Dunn, Lauri Markkenan, and the 11th overall pick in 2019 into Clint Capela and Jarrett Culver. All things considered, that wouldn't be too bad, though with different draft decisions it could have been even better.
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Camden wrote:BizarroJerry wrote:Soooo basically that would be Jimmy Butler for Clint Capella and Jarret Culver??
In a nutshell, we would have turned Zach LaVine, Kris Dunn, Lauri Markkenan, and the 11th overall pick in 2019 into Clint Capela and Jarrett Culver. All things considered, that wouldn't be too bad, though with different draft decisions it could have been even better.
I know you aren't doing this but it is a really dangerous game going back multiple trades over multiple years.
Just my opinion made perfect sense to go get Jimmy Butler then (still does in my mind) we drafted bad selecting Patton over Collins or OG (got a little unlucky with injury) and also got decent re-trade value out of Butler.
Now the question was moving up 5 spots in Saric and whatever we get for Cov better than Eric Gordon, Tucker and 4 1sts. (Also don't expect thibs to do this when he was trying to keep his job)