Next Moves for the Wolves
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I want to retract my statement on Capela on him being expensive. But I don't know if Capela is the right choice. I mean look at the pieces the wolves would have in terms of shooters going forward.
Kat: Great
Wiggins: Average/slightly below average shooter
Okogie: Pathetic
Culver: Pathetic
Capela: No threat
Layman: Slightly above average
KBD: average with trending to above average
Naz and Nowell: Both look like they could both be good shooters but I want see it in NBA games before I make my opinion
Also my list is just based on shooting. I like what in theory Culver and Okogie can and do bring to the table.
Kat: Great
Wiggins: Average/slightly below average shooter
Okogie: Pathetic
Culver: Pathetic
Capela: No threat
Layman: Slightly above average
KBD: average with trending to above average
Naz and Nowell: Both look like they could both be good shooters but I want see it in NBA games before I make my opinion
Also my list is just based on shooting. I like what in theory Culver and Okogie can and do bring to the table.
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kekgeek1 wrote:I want to retract my statement on Capela on him being expensive. But I don't know if Capela is the right choice. I mean look at the pieces the wolves would have in terms of shooters going forward.
Kat: Great
Wiggins: Average/slightly below average shooter
Okogie: Pathetic
Culver: Pathetic
Capela: No threat
Layman: Slightly above average
KBD: average with trending to above average
Naz and Nowell: Both look like they could both be good shooters but I want see it in NBA games before I make my opinion
Also my list is just based on shooting. I like what in theory Culver and Okogie can and do bring to the table.
If we trust kat and to a certain extent, wiggs, to be able to carry an offense, we need the other 13 to be carry the burden on defense. Our offense stays afloat, but our defense has caved. If the other players aren't providing offense and the defense stays bad, we need to make changes. I think a guy like capela improves our defense and rebounding. Offensively, he doesn't space the floor with shooting, but his ability to set an actual screen can help space the floor.
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monsterpile wrote:khans2k5 wrote:crazy-canuck wrote:Woj and lowe also mentioned that cov is on Houston's radar and the only piece that could be traded is capela. Rockets believe hartelstein is ready for more minutes.
It may not be a popular opinion, but I would take a Capela for Covington trade in a heartbeat. Capela grinds, rebounds, sets good screens and protects the rim. We would have to dump this dumb 5 out strategy that doesn't fit our talent, but I think we would be much better with him at the 5 and KAT at the 4 than what we have now with 5 out. I have no idea why Houston does that trade though. They would have no big men on that team.
I'd do that deal also. Capella is a good player on a pretty good contract that turns 26 next year. Houston does have Tyson Chandler around. Is a big wing defender like Covington worth more against the LA teams than a guy like Capella in the playoffs?
I'm not excited about trading Covington BUT if teams basically get into a bidding war and you start getting a nice chunk of assets back including at least one guy that can play now I would be plenty intrigued. I'm curious what Cool would think we could get or what he realistically would want in a Milwaukee package.
Monster, I don't see him as a great fit in Milwaukee. Who would he take minutes from, Ilyasova? Robin Lopez? MIddleton? If there is one thing the Bucks could use, it's another guy who can get his own offense. And as you know that's not Covington.
But I imagine the Wolves could probably get Sterling Brown or maybe DJ.
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What good is Capela without a guard to hit him running to the rim?
We just discussed (after Jim Pete mentioned it) that the Wolves don't have that guy on the roster.
Obviously, Capela could help defensively. But he would hinder the Wolves a bit on offense. Expect smaller guys to be with Towns on the perimeter... somewhat negating the HUGE advantage he gives the Wolves on offense.
We just discussed (after Jim Pete mentioned it) that the Wolves don't have that guy on the roster.
Obviously, Capela could help defensively. But he would hinder the Wolves a bit on offense. Expect smaller guys to be with Towns on the perimeter... somewhat negating the HUGE advantage he gives the Wolves on offense.
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:What good is Capela without a guard to hit him running to the rim?
We just discussed (after Jim Pete mentioned it) that the Wolves don't have that guy on the roster.
Obviously, Capela could help defensively. But he would hinder the Wolves a bit on offense. Expect smaller guys to be with Towns on the perimeter... somewhat negating the HUGE advantage he gives the Wolves on offense.
I mean Towns never rim runs so we have no idea if guys like Wiggins and Culver and Teague could run a good PnR with Capela. Capela is a significantly better screen setter than Towns so the ball handlers would actually have space to attack the defense and actually have a pocket to pass to with a big man who actually attacks the rim. If we truly wanted to open this offense up it involves Towns becoming dominant as a roll man, mid range pick and pop and a 3 pt shooter and actually setting a good screen that opens up the space to do whichever option we want on that play. Instead he sets a shitty screen and slides to the 3pt line almost every time leaving the ball handler double covered and needing to drop a pass over the defenders to Towns which gives defenses more time to recover. That's the problem with 5 out. In theory we should just be able to carve defenses apart with a good Towns screen in the PnR and picking and choosing how to attack the defense from there, but right now that PnR game is very one dimensional in a way that least makes the defense have to move and make difficult plays.
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khans2k5 wrote:AbeVigodaLive wrote:What good is Capela without a guard to hit him running to the rim?
We just discussed (after Jim Pete mentioned it) that the Wolves don't have that guy on the roster.
Obviously, Capela could help defensively. But he would hinder the Wolves a bit on offense. Expect smaller guys to be with Towns on the perimeter... somewhat negating the HUGE advantage he gives the Wolves on offense.
I mean Towns never rim runs so we have no idea if guys like Wiggins and Culver and Teague could run a good PnR with Capela. Capela is a significantly better screen setter than Towns so the ball handlers would actually have space to attack the defense and actually have a pocket to pass to with a big man who actually attacks the rim. If we truly wanted to open this offense up it involves Towns becoming dominant as a roll man, mid range pick and pop and a 3 pt shooter and actually setting a good screen that opens up the space to do whichever option we want on that play. Instead he sets a shitty screen and slides to the 3pt line almost every time leaving the ball handler double covered and needing to drop a pass over the defenders to Towns which gives defenses more time to recover. That's the problem with 5 out. In theory we should just be able to carve defenses apart with a good Towns screen in the PnR and picking and choosing how to attack the defense from there, but right now that PnR game is very one dimensional in a way that least makes the defense have to move and make difficult plays.
If the Rockets are willing to deal Capela for Covington, the Wolves should grab that deal immediately before Morey changes his mind. But I don't think the Rockets would do that deal so I'm not going to set myself up for disappointment when it doesn't happen. :) If by some miracle the Rockets do that deal, then we'd still need to find a high caliber ballhandler who can create. But at least we'd close the hole in our interior defense.
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Free Agent Bigs this coming off-season: Marc Gasol, Aron Baynes, Derrick Favors, Nerlens Noel, Dwight Howard, Ian Mahinmi, Montrezl Harrell, Kyle O'Quinn, Hassan Whiteside, Harry Giles, Serge Ibaka, Ed Davis, Willie Cauley-Stein, Demarcus Cousins, Robin Lopez
There are quite a few defensive minded bigs available and I'd imagine that the plethora of bigs and teams saving for 2021, would drive the price down so that if don't trade for Capela, we'll have better options than Dieng, Bell and Vonleh.
There are quite a few defensive minded bigs available and I'd imagine that the plethora of bigs and teams saving for 2021, would drive the price down so that if don't trade for Capela, we'll have better options than Dieng, Bell and Vonleh.
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I really like Baynes and given that the Suns have Ayton, I think he leaves Phoenix. I am still intrigued by Nerlens Noel and how he'd fare in a starting role. WCS reunited with KAT would be interesting. I've always thought Robin Lopez was very underrated and now he is shooting 3s. I like Favors when he's healthy, but given his history, I would only sign him to a cheap deal. I'd take Mahinmi on a minimum deal.
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KG4Ever wrote:Free Agent Bigs this coming off-season: Marc Gasol, Aron Baynes, Derrick Favors, Nerlens Noel, Dwight Howard, Ian Mahinmi, Montrezl Harrell, Kyle O'Quinn, Hassan Whiteside, Harry Giles, Serge Ibaka, Ed Davis, Willie Cauley-Stein, Demarcus Cousins, Robin Lopez
There are quite a few defensive minded bigs available and I'd imagine that the plethora of bigs and teams saving for 2021, would drive the price down so that if don't trade for Capela, we'll have better options than Dieng, Bell and Vonleh.
We won't have the cap space to sign Gasol, baynes, favors, Harrell, Ibaka.
Whiteside is terrible
I can't see Cousins, Lopez or Dwight wanting to come here.
The other guys might come for the min but I can't see any of them being legit better than, Bell or Vonleh
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lipoli390 wrote:khans2k5 wrote:AbeVigodaLive wrote:What good is Capela without a guard to hit him running to the rim?
We just discussed (after Jim Pete mentioned it) that the Wolves don't have that guy on the roster.
Obviously, Capela could help defensively. But he would hinder the Wolves a bit on offense. Expect smaller guys to be with Towns on the perimeter... somewhat negating the HUGE advantage he gives the Wolves on offense.
I mean Towns never rim runs so we have no idea if guys like Wiggins and Culver and Teague could run a good PnR with Capela. Capela is a significantly better screen setter than Towns so the ball handlers would actually have space to attack the defense and actually have a pocket to pass to with a big man who actually attacks the rim. If we truly wanted to open this offense up it involves Towns becoming dominant as a roll man, mid range pick and pop and a 3 pt shooter and actually setting a good screen that opens up the space to do whichever option we want on that play. Instead he sets a shitty screen and slides to the 3pt line almost every time leaving the ball handler double covered and needing to drop a pass over the defenders to Towns which gives defenses more time to recover. That's the problem with 5 out. In theory we should just be able to carve defenses apart with a good Towns screen in the PnR and picking and choosing how to attack the defense from there, but right now that PnR game is very one dimensional in a way that least makes the defense have to move and make difficult plays.
If the Rockets are willing to deal Capela for Covington, the Wolves should grab that deal immediately before Morey changes his mind. But I don't think the Rockets would do that deal so I'm not going to set myself up for disappointment when it doesn't happen. :) If by some miracle the Rockets do that deal, then we'd still need to find a high caliber ballhandler who can create. But at least we'd close the hole in our interior defense.
Kahn's you and I have been ones to rip Towns screen setting over the years. You are right about Capela as a screen and roll to the basket guy. Dieng is a good screen setter but he likes to shoot jumpers too. I do think Towms has improved his screen setting but with the new offense he ain't rolling to the basket which if he is popping out for 3's and making them I'm cool with that. Bigs like Capela and Adams aren't a big threat to score but they do all kinds of things that help you on that end.