monsterpile wrote:I just listened to Windhorst on Wolfson's podcast. I know people are a fan of either of these guys but Windhorst said some interesting things to take note of and decide whether to put any stock into what Windhorst says or not.
He said Philly actually really values Maxey and didn't want to give him up in a trade for Lowry at the trade deadline. IF that's true Morey isn't just playing with Simmons and Rich Paul on one front he is playing with it on another front with Maxey. Good times.
He thinks Morey could play out the Simmons thing well into the season possibly even to the trade deadline even with Simmons not playing. He thinks the Sixers might be able to play well enough without Simmons that they can keep winning enough games. I tend to think this is a possibility too but if I was the Sixers GM I'm not sure I would want to bet my job on it.
He said there is a smaller market team that has made an offer to the Sixers for Simmons that has not been reported.
Windhorst said he doesn't think the Wolves have what it will take to get Simmons because Morey wants a star and the wolves don't have it. He says a 3rd team makes it difficult to make a deal go through and in some cases if you can get the star player routed to the Sixers...why wouldn't you just trade for that player yourself. He sounded pretty amused that Russell would be kinda off the table for a Simmons trade.
Wolfson asked Windhorst what made him excited about the upcoming season and he said uncertainty. He said he thinks there are a bunch of teams with a legit chance to win a championship or get to the finals and he also thinks there are a lot of compelling teams/players like Zion Ja etc that could take a step forward.
Also Wolfson has said on that the mystery FA wants to work out do the Wolves but at this point they have no flexibility under the cap so basically unless there is some sort of move made that's not happening.
Interesting stuff. Thanks for the summary, Monster! Any thoughts on who that small-market team might be. So far, offers by Minnesota, Cleveland, Portland, Sacramento and Indiana have already been reported. So who's left among what we'd call small-market teams? It's certainly not Milwaukee. How about OKC? New Orleans? Orlando? Charlotte? Utah? Any others?
I've said several times that Oklahoma City scares me in the pursuit of Ben Simmons. Their extensive stash of draft capital is unparalleled. They could theoretically offer six first-round picks and it wouldn't even be a hit to their asset collection.
Here are a couple references to the podcast Monster summarized;
Brian Windhorst on Ben Simmons: I know of at least one other team who is a small market team that has made an offer and has a lot of interest and it just hasn't gotten public yet - via Apple Podcasts
Darren Wolfson: My understanding is Gersson (Rosas) communicated with Daryl (Morey), maybe some others in the Philadelphia front office... 'OK, KAT off the table. Anthony Edwards off the table, everybody else on the table.' But then like in the same breath, my understanding is D'Angelo Russell, Ben Simmons... They have a relationship. They played together in high school, that Gersson would love to have D'Angelo combined with Ben here. - via Apple Podcasts
Wolfson's "understanding" suggests that DLO is potentially on the table for Simmons, albeit reluctantly so. Depending on how how badly Rosas wants Simmons, I can see him dealing DLO and McDaniels along with multiple future picks to get Simmons.
lipoli390 wrote:Here are a couple references to the podcast Monster summarized;
Brian Windhorst on Ben Simmons: I know of at least one other team who is a small market team that has made an offer and has a lot of interest and it just hasn't gotten public yet - via Apple Podcasts
Darren Wolfson: My understanding is Gersson (Rosas) communicated with Daryl (Morey), maybe some others in the Philadelphia front office... 'OK, KAT off the table. Anthony Edwards off the table, everybody else on the table.' But then like in the same breath, my understanding is D'Angelo Russell, Ben Simmons... They have a relationship. They played together in high school, that Gersson would love to have D'Angelo combined with Ben here. - via Apple Podcasts
Wolfson's "understanding" suggests that DLO is potentially on the table for Simmons, albeit reluctantly so. Depending on how how badly Rosas wants Simmons, I can see him dealing DLO and McDaniels along with multiple future picks to get Simmons.
Again FWIW:
Windhorst replied to what Wolfson said about Rosas would love to have Russell there with something like "I would love to have a lot of things..." Windhorst said he does think that Russell would make sense in Philly but he also isn't sure how much Morey would really value Russell. I believe he insinuated that there are some teams that value Russell but there are likely a number of teams that don't. They also had a quick discussion about Morey being a numbers guy and whether or not that would lead him away from acquiring Russell as it's no secret that some of his advanced numbers are not good.
Camden0916 wrote:I've said several times that Oklahoma City scares me in the pursuit of Ben Simmons. Their extensive stash of draft capital is unparalleled. They could theoretically offer six first-round picks and it wouldn't even be a hit to their asset collection.
Yeah that might be the team. They talked about SGA as a guy that could go to Philly in a 3 team deal with MN but Windhorst was like...if MN can get the assets together to make a SGA why wouldn't they just trade for him and keep him instead? I wouldn't be shocked if Philly would send OKC additional assets to acquire SGA for Simmons. I don't think OKC is going to have to be blown away with that offer though.
Camden0916 wrote:I've said several times that Oklahoma City scares me in the pursuit of Ben Simmons. Their extensive stash of draft capital is unparalleled. They could theoretically offer six first-round picks and it wouldn't even be a hit to their asset collection.
Yeah that might be the team. They talked about SGA as a guy that could go to Philly in a 3 team deal with MN but Windhorst was like...if MN can get the assets together to make a SGA why wouldn't they just trade for him and keep him instead? I wouldn't be shocked if Philly would send OKC additional assets to acquire SGA for Simmons. I don't think OKC is going to have to be blown away with that offer though.
I could be wrong but SGA can't be traded because of the extention he got.
Camden0916 wrote:I've said several times that Oklahoma City scares me in the pursuit of Ben Simmons. Their extensive stash of draft capital is unparalleled. They could theoretically offer six first-round picks and it wouldn't even be a hit to their asset collection.
Yeah that might be the team. They talked about SGA as a guy that could go to Philly in a 3 team deal with MN but Windhorst was like...if MN can get the assets together to make a SGA why wouldn't they just trade for him and keep him instead? I wouldn't be shocked if Philly would send OKC additional assets to acquire SGA for Simmons. I don't think OKC is going to have to be blown away with that offer though.
I could be wrong but SGA can't be traded because of the extention he got.
First of all I will mention that my last sentence in my post SHOULD read "I think OKC is going to have to be blown away with that offer though."
You make an excellent point here. Without looking up the CBA FAQ he either can't be traded or it's extremely difficult to do because of how his salary counts in a trade.
Camden0916 wrote:I've said several times that Oklahoma City scares me in the pursuit of Ben Simmons. Their extensive stash of draft capital is unparalleled. They could theoretically offer six first-round picks and it wouldn't even be a hit to their asset collection.
Yeah that might be the team. They talked about SGA as a guy that could go to Philly in a 3 team deal with MN but Windhorst was like...if MN can get the assets together to make a SGA why wouldn't they just trade for him and keep him instead? I wouldn't be shocked if Philly would send OKC additional assets to acquire SGA for Simmons. I don't think OKC is going to have to be blown away with that offer though.
I could be wrong but SGA can't be traded because of the extention he got.
First of all I will mention that my last sentence in my post SHOULD read "I think OKC is going to have to be blown away with that offer though."
You make an excellent point here. Without looking up the CBA FAQ he either can't be traded or it's extremely difficult to do because of how his salary counts in a trade.
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander can't be traded until six months from when he signed his extension. If my math and understanding of the CBA is correct, that would mean that the earliest he could be traded is February.
NBA star Ben Simmons' sister Olivia has been ordered to pay her half-brother Sean Tribe a whopping $550,000, five months after she posted a series of defamatory tweets. Mr Tribe, 35, sued his sister for defamation in April after she took to Twitter to publish a series of false allegations he had sexually abused her as a child. Mr Tribe strongly denied the allegations. - via Natalie Wolfe @ Melbourne Herald-Sun
Ms Simmons, 29, who lives in Melbourne, later deleted the three tweets but not before they had been liked by her followers hundreds of times. The Federal Court awarded Mr Tribe a default win on August 3 after Ms Simmons repeatedly failed to present a defence or turn up to court. - via Natalie Wolfe @ Melbourne Herald-Sun
Very strange. Ben's sister falsely accuses her half-brother Sean Tribe with child sexual abuse. Tribe sues her and she doesn't even show up in court. Does anyone really doubt that Ben won't show up at the Sixers' training camp? :)
lipoli390 wrote:NBA star Ben Simmons' sister Olivia has been ordered to pay her half-brother Sean Tribe a whopping $550,000, five months after she posted a series of defamatory tweets. Mr Tribe, 35, sued his sister for defamation in April after she took to Twitter to publish a series of false allegations he had sexually abused her as a child. Mr Tribe strongly denied the allegations. - via Natalie Wolfe @ Melbourne Herald-Sun
Ms Simmons, 29, who lives in Melbourne, later deleted the three tweets but not before they had been liked by her followers hundreds of times. The Federal Court awarded Mr Tribe a default win on August 3 after Ms Simmons repeatedly failed to present a defence or turn up to court. - via Natalie Wolfe @ Melbourne Herald-Sun
Very strange. Ben's sister falsely accuses her half-brother Sean Tribe with child sexual abuse. Tribe sues her and she doesn't even show up in court. Does anyone really doubt that Ben won't show up at the Sixers' training camp? :)
Additional info about this story and the Simmons family:
Tribe is Ben Simmons Manager.
Olivia Simmons daughter has a rare brain condition and recently had surgery at some point throughout this process.
Ben Simmons shooting coach is his brother Liam.
The Simmons family is quite a rabbit hole to fall into.
Edit: Also I wonder if this situation at times was weighing on Simmons mind at all late in the season and the playoffs? Which one of his siblings is lying about something pretty serious?
