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KG4Ever wrote:I wouldn't necessarily trade Roco for Capela because of my concern that we get a lesser Capela here and I think Capela's skill sets may be easier to find than Roco's. I think Morey is smart and if he is willing to part with Capela for Roco (not sure this is the case), then I'd even be more hesitant. I'd prefer we try to secure a defensive minded center without giving up Roco first.

Maybe, but even a "lesser Capela" would have a bigger impact on this team than the version of Covington the Wolves have gotten this year. He has not been the defender people want him to be and it's even more frustrating because he's being played out of position. Yes, this team would be down a three-point shooter, but if we're talking about getting better value in a trade, I think that'd be a good one. And like I noted earlier in the thread I think adding Capela would make Towns' job night in and night out a lot easier.

Camden wrote:

KG4Ever wrote:I wouldn't necessarily trade Roco for Capela because of my concern that we get a lesser Capela here and I think Capela's skill sets may be easier to find than Roco's. I think Morey is smart and if he is willing to part with Capela for Roco (not sure this is the case), then I'd even be more hesitant. I'd prefer we try to secure a defensive minded center without giving up Roco first.

Maybe, but even a "lesser Capela" would have a bigger impact on this team than the version of Covington the Wolves have gotten this year. He has not been the defender people want him to be and it's even more frustrating because he's being played out of position. Yes, this team would be down a three-point shooter, but if we're talking about getting better value in a trade, I think that'd be a good one. And like I noted earlier in the thread I think adding Capela would make Towns' job night in and night out a lot easier.

Yeah this is more about Towns than it is Capela and ROCO. KAT's rebounding numbers would suffer, but everything else should improve, including wins and losses.

MIN receive: Steven Adams
HOU receive: Robert Covington and Treveon Graham
OKC receive: Gorgui Dieng, Danuel House, PJ Tucker and future 1st (HOU's 2020 or 2022)

There is no way Rosas trades RoCo for a non 3 point shooting big man. You are hurting what KAT does best by clogging up the paint with another big who can't shoot. I guess you might as well have no 3 point shooters around KAT. Everytime the Wolves get any three point shooters they leave. (Love, LaVine, might as well trade KAT and Roco too, then we can shoot 25% from 3 and 35% from 2, score about 60 points a game. lol

WolvesFan21 wrote:There is no way Rosas trades RoCo for a non 3 point shooting big man. You are hurting what KAT does best by clogging up the paint with another big who can't shoot. I guess you might as well have no 3 point shooters around KAT. Everytime the Wolves get any three point shooters they leave. (Love, LaVine, might as well trade KAT and Roco too, then we can shoot 25% from 3 and 35% from 2, score about 60 points a game. lol

Karl-Anthony Towns is going to score in bunches and score efficiently regardless of who is in the lineup around him. He's already proven that. Perhaps it's time to put someone next to him that will alleviate what he doesn't do well -- protect the rim and defend in space. It'd also help the Wolves on the glass and give them a legitimate size advantage that they haven't had since Kevin Love and Nikola Pekovic were a tandem.

There have been some good back and forth things about this theoretic And unlikely Roco for Capela deal. It's made me go back and forth a bit to be honest. Some random thoughts.

Coming just turned 29. Capela turns 26 in May. Three and a half years age is a decent gap. How long does either guy have left? Both have missed some games over the years.

Capela is signed for 1 year longer than Covington. He also costs a few million more a year. Is he worth that difference?

In a vacuum who would you rather have Capela or Stephen Adams?

It would be interesting to see what Towns would/could do with a rim runner lob mate. Who was the last guy that you just threw lobs to for the Wolves? Ryan Hollins? I went back and looked I would say the last lob guy was the legendary chris Johnson. A healthy Pek was a lob guy but just giving him the ball 3-5 feet from the basket he would put it in. It would be interesting to see a player like Capela who knows where to move to be in the right spots would do for some other players both in terms of making teams pay attention to him and give him a target. Q laid out well how good Harden is but Capela does have a skill set we haven't seen much of around here for a while. Capela is a valueable player he would fit into what a lot of teams do. He isn't a star or a stud but kinda like Covington he just does lots of stuff that helps teams.

Thinking of possibly trading Covington for Capela kinda shows the value of Covington and IF we deal him we need to get a very good return. How this franchise maximizes Covington Either by having him on the roster or using him in a trade is going to be a significant part of the success going forward. There are downsides either path they take and when they take it.

Camden wrote:

WolvesFan21 wrote:There is no way Rosas trades RoCo for a non 3 point shooting big man. You are hurting what KAT does best by clogging up the paint with another big who can't shoot. I guess you might as well have no 3 point shooters around KAT. Everytime the Wolves get any three point shooters they leave. (Love, LaVine, might as well trade KAT and Roco too, then we can shoot 25% from 3 and 35% from 2, score about 60 points a game. lol

Karl-Anthony Towns is going to score in bunches and score efficiently regardless of who is in the lineup around him. He's already proven that. Perhaps it's time to put someone next to him that will alleviate what he doesn't do well -- protect the rim and defend in space. It'd also help the Wolves on the glass and give them a legitimate size advantage that they haven't had since Kevin Love and Nikola Pekovic were a tandem.

WolvesFan is right though. Rosas isn't going to suddenly reverse course on his "system" even if it probably makes sense in a lot of ways.

WildWolf2813 wrote:If Rosas is really as good of a talent evaluator as we want him to be, then the long term solution to the C spot is gonna have to be Reid. We just have to grit our teeth and wait on his development. The truth is that this team is gonna have to pull competent players out of nowhere at some point. Who's gonna be their Duncan Robinson, Kendrick Nunn, Daniel House, etc. If Rosas is hellbent on getting another star, then finances dictate that he'll need to make another Covington, the same way Covington himself was molded. If Rosas is unable to unearth a gem here and there, he's wasting everyone's time.

As KG pointed out earlier, there is really a lot of competent bigs out there that we can sign without spending gobs of money. Cheap, competent bigs are out there to be had and I would argue we have one of them in Vonleh (who for whatever reason is in the doghouse). So Reid doesn't have to be our answer there.

Having said that, I agree with your larger premise, which is this franchise does need to unearth some diamonds that turn into plus-level rotation players on cheap-ish contracts. Reid could be one. Nowell could be one. KBD could be one, although now I'm skeptical again after he completely disappears after a handful of decent games. Seriously, I think he's played 33 of the most invisible basketball ever played in the past two games.

I'd love another big who can spread the floor though. RoCo struggles just a bit defending other bigs because he simply doesn't have the size. Other bigs can out rebound him with physicality.

If you are thinking of any potential trades the big is going to have to shoot 3's. Any guy making big money should be able to space the floor anyways. It's not unreasonable to ask for. Dieng can but his defense lacks. if you had a just mediocre offense like Dieng but with quality on defense that would be nice.

I looked at my preference at 11 in Clarke and he's actually shooting 50% for 3P (on like 24 shots though) and I think 65% from 2P on the year. I'm thinking that might have been the way to go instead of trading up for Culver.

We wont trade for capela to play for us this season. I can gurantee that. Rosas and saunders are all about culture and system and trading for capela to pay with towns is the opposite of what they are preaching all year. They are not going to change direction this early. They will look weak if they did.

If capela for roco deal is on the table, then I think rosas would try to find a third team and target another player from a third team to trade for.