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Well, Naz Reid is shooting 35% from 3 in the G League and has a very repeatable shot. He's a very skilled player. My issue with him is he just seems a little sloppy with the ball and a step slow. Not sure he'll develop the defensive chops that we need so badly.

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Camden wrote:

WolvesFan21 wrote:There is no way Rosas trades RoCo for a non 3 point shooting big man. You are hurting what KAT does best by clogging up the paint with another big who can't shoot. I guess you might as well have no 3 point shooters around KAT. Everytime the Wolves get any three point shooters they leave. (Love, LaVine, might as well trade KAT and Roco too, then we can shoot 25% from 3 and 35% from 2, score about 60 points a game. lol

Karl-Anthony Towns is going to score in bunches and score efficiently regardless of who is in the lineup around him. He's already proven that. Perhaps it's time to put someone next to him that will alleviate what he doesn't do well -- protect the rim and defend in space. It'd also help the Wolves on the glass and give them a legitimate size advantage that they haven't had since Kevin Love and Nikola Pekovic were a tandem.

WolvesFan is right though. Rosas isn't going to suddenly reverse course on his "system" even if it probably makes sense in a lot of ways.

Yeah, I previously acknowledged that it's unlikely Rosas gives up on his Warriors/Rockets-styled dream that he has for this franchise. The reality is that those teams have had generational ball-handlers and a bevy of All-Stars plus role players surrounding them. It's not the easiest framework to replicate due to obvious reasons and is much more susceptible of failing -- like what we've seen this year from this team.

I guess in my mind I'd rather ditch the silly dream and make moves that actually give the Wolves some sort of advantage. Covington doesn't do much of anything for this current roster makeup when he's playing the four, especially the version of him that we've seen this season.

I've seen Rockets/Warriors comparisons mentioned.

I can't think of many teams that play(ed) more contrasting styles...

Is Rosas digging the Houston model? Or the GSW one? Big difference. Personally, I hate watching Houston play. It's ugly basketball to me.

AbeVigodaLive wrote:I've seen Rockets/Warriors comparisons mentioned.

I can't think of many teams that play(ed) more contrasting styles...

Is Rosas digging the Houston model? Or the GSW one? Big difference. Personally, I hate watching Houston play. It's ugly basketball to me.

I'm using them as a comparison in that they are the trendsetters for the "space and pace" era. It's essentially the style that Rosas wants to replicate probably because it's what he knows. Those teams get up an absurd amount of threes and have essentially turned the game of basketball into an analytic practice.

Also, I don't see a big difference between the two models. You could argue that the Warriors played a style that incorporated more ball movement, but they were both extremely annoying to watch.

I just don't see how Capela makes us better.

He would no longer be playing with some of the best PnR distributors in the NBA in Harden, Westbrook and previously Paul.

He is no threat to shoot at all. So 3 of our future 7 rotation guys are terrible NBA shooters in Capela, Okogie and Culver. You can maybe get away with 1 non shooter the wolves would have 3 and it's not like Wiggins is a knockdown shooter either. Spacing would be terrible.

Teams will still attack Kat in PnR that will not change with capela. Teams will still pick out the weak link and that is Kat.

Who does Kat against really good teams. Paul George, Simmons, Giannis/Middleton. Kat can't guard those guys in open space and really good teams will run Kat off so many screens. Also you can say they would have to guard Kat but Kat advantage is in the post where he has to work his ass off to score 2 pts and he can get doubled so easily.

If the Rockets would be comfortable thinking they can replace Capela production with min guys in Chandler and Hiernstien don't you think wolves should be worried that the rockets don't believe capela moves the needle.

Capela also has been played off the floor in playoff matchups in the past (I realize some against the arguably the best team ever)

I'm fine trading Cov but there will be so much better fits and trades for this team going forward for Cov than Capela.

Jrue holiday now up for grabs.

His age isn't a great fit, but his ability to play off the ball and defend the poa is.

AbeVigodaLive wrote:I've seen Rockets/Warriors comparisons mentioned.

I can't think of many teams that play(ed) more contrasting styles...

Is Rosas digging the Houston model? Or the GSW one? Big difference. Personally, I hate watching Houston play. It's ugly basketball to me.

I think more of a combination between the two. They couldn't be more opposite really in how they play. GSW with a lot of passing and assist versus watching Harden dribble-dribble-dribble-dribble shoot.

It's all dictated by your personnel too. Harden can actually be efficient doing what he does (ISO or PNR) while everyone else just stands around.

You can't go full GSW either unless you have players who can all make plays for the most part. You'd turn the ball over too much, I think they usually even have higher turnovers. Passing is great until the turnovers rear their ugly head, then you're just better off taking harder shots.

To me the immediate predecessor to the Durant-less Golden State pace and space title team was the 13-14 Spurs. They played a really unselfish brand of basketball that relied on ball and player movement, led the NBA in assists, 3pt%, and won a title. It's interesting how Pop has been able to adapt to his roster and doesn't rely on any system.

WolvesFan21 wrote:

AbeVigodaLive wrote:I've seen Rockets/Warriors comparisons mentioned.

I can't think of many teams that play(ed) more contrasting styles...

Is Rosas digging the Houston model? Or the GSW one? Big difference. Personally, I hate watching Houston play. It's ugly basketball to me.

I think more of a combination between the two. They couldn't be more opposite really in how they play. GSW with a lot of passing and assist versus watching Harden dribble-dribble-dribble-dribble shoot.

It's all dictated by your personnel too. Harden can actually be efficient doing what he does (ISO or PNR) while everyone else just stands around.

You can't go full GSW either unless you have players who can all make plays for the most part. You'd turn the ball over too much, I think they usually even have higher turnovers. Passing is great until the turnovers rear their ugly head, then you're just better off taking harder shots.

I think Houston has been more dogmatic about the "3s and Frees" than Golden State. The Warriors have no problem taking open mid-range jumpers. Those same world class shooters from 3 (Curry, Klay, and Durant) are also world class shooters from the mid-range. On the other hand, if you have Trevor Ariza and PJ Tucker types, you don't want them taking pull up jumpers off the dribble. Either take the 3 or get all the way to the rack.

We've already mastered Dantoni's bad defense, now if we can inch up to turning the ball over like Golden State we will win that lottery.