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BizarroJerry wrote:

Q12543 wrote:I also think this team is weak in the "big wing" department, i.e. someone that can play a traditional SF spot or small-ball 4. Nearly all of our wings are traditional SGs, but small 3's.

Andrei Kirilenko?

Heh, nowadays he'd be without question a starting 4. But yeah, he'd be perfect for this team in that slot.

I'm thinking of guys like Jae Crowder, Og Anunoby, Khris Middelton, etc.

Q12543 wrote:

BizarroJerry wrote:

Q12543 wrote:I also think this team is weak in the "big wing" department, i.e. someone that can play a traditional SF spot or small-ball 4. Nearly all of our wings are traditional SGs, but small 3's.

Andrei Kirilenko?

Heh, nowadays he'd be without question a starting 4. But yeah, he'd be perfect for this team in that slot.

I'm thinking of guys like Jae Crowder, Og Anunoby, Khris Middelton, etc.

Didn't we have that lineup of AK, Prince and KG when Sammich was coach? Lockdown D team.

BizarroJerry wrote:

Q12543 wrote:

BizarroJerry wrote:

Q12543 wrote:I also think this team is weak in the "big wing" department, i.e. someone that can play a traditional SF spot or small-ball 4. Nearly all of our wings are traditional SGs, but small 3's.

Andrei Kirilenko?

Heh, nowadays he'd be without question a starting 4. But yeah, he'd be perfect for this team in that slot.

I'm thinking of guys like Jae Crowder, Og Anunoby, Khris Middelton, etc.

Didn't we have that lineup of AK, Prince and KG when Sammich was coach? Lockdown D team.

It was Rubio, Prince and KG (not AK) with Wiggins and Towns and neither team could score when they were on the court lol

khans2k5 wrote:

BizarroJerry wrote:

Q12543 wrote:

BizarroJerry wrote:

Q12543 wrote:I also think this team is weak in the "big wing" department, i.e. someone that can play a traditional SF spot or small-ball 4. Nearly all of our wings are traditional SGs, but small 3's.

Andrei Kirilenko?

Heh, nowadays he'd be without question a starting 4. But yeah, he'd be perfect for this team in that slot.

I'm thinking of guys like Jae Crowder, Og Anunoby, Khris Middelton, etc.

Didn't we have that lineup of AK, Prince and KG when Sammich was coach? Lockdown D team.

It was Rubio, Prince and KG (not AK) with Wiggins and Towns and neither team could score when they were on the court lol

Oh right forgot Rubio. Yeah it was usually 19-15 after Q1.

BizarroJerry wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

BizarroJerry wrote:

Q12543 wrote:

BizarroJerry wrote:

Q12543 wrote:I also think this team is weak in the "big wing" department, i.e. someone that can play a traditional SF spot or small-ball 4. Nearly all of our wings are traditional SGs, but small 3's.

Andrei Kirilenko?

Heh, nowadays he'd be without question a starting 4. But yeah, he'd be perfect for this team in that slot.

I'm thinking of guys like Jae Crowder, Og Anunoby, Khris Middelton, etc.

Didn't we have that lineup of AK, Prince and KG when Sammich was coach? Lockdown D team.

It was Rubio, Prince and KG (not AK) with Wiggins and Towns and neither team could score when they were on the court lol

Oh right forgot Rubio. Yeah it was usually 19-15 after Q1.

Yayshaun Prince is probably already a guy that some people That didn't see him play look back at his Stats and this he was just ok or something. He was a really useful all around player in so many ways for quite a few years. Flawed? Sure but a player like him would help this roster a ton right now.

Q12543 wrote:

Camden wrote:I think the Wolves are pretty set at point guard in the present and future as I believe D'Angelo Russell is quietly one of the more dynamic lead guards in the league, and Jordan McLaughlin is a quality backup at the position, BUT...

I really like Tyrell Terry. I probably have him higher on my board than most that I've seen and I think he'll easily outperform his draft slot. We've debated about who the best shooter is in this draft and I think it's this kid. Spot-up, catch-and-shoot, coming off screens, off the dribble -- he's more than capable in different situations.

Terry shot 40.8-percent from three on 4.9 attempts per game. That's not necessarily blistering, but it's quite good especially for a freshman. Ironically, it's the same three-point percentage that Jamal Murray shot at Kentucky several years ago albeit on less attempts. Terry shot 42-percent from deep on spot-up threes (38 attempts) and 57.9-percent off screens (11 attempts) in his lone season at Stanford. Obviously, you'd like to see those attempts higher, but they help paint the picture of what his strengths are.

Terry's also quietly an elite finisher at the rim -- 61.5-percent shooting at the rim -- and a sneaky good defender despite his slight frame. He reminds me of Tyus Jones on that end, actually.

I like him a lot in this class and the Wolves have reportedly been in contact with him quite a bit during the draft process according to the local guys we rely on for news. I've seen Terry projected to go in the 20's and even as low as the early second-round. Personally, I like him at the back end of the lottery.

Seems gettable at #17. I do feel like after this draft, assuming we don't trade our picks for a vet, that we will have a bundle of young assets, of which hopefully a couple real gems could emerge: Nowell, Reid, Culver, Vanderbilt, McLaughlin, #1 pick, #17 pick....something has to pop there right!? For once?

So Terry is young, shoots 3's At a high percentage and can play defense? What's the knock on him?

monsterpile wrote:

Q12543 wrote:

Camden wrote:I think the Wolves are pretty set at point guard in the present and future as I believe D'Angelo Russell is quietly one of the more dynamic lead guards in the league, and Jordan McLaughlin is a quality backup at the position, BUT...

I really like Tyrell Terry. I probably have him higher on my board than most that I've seen and I think he'll easily outperform his draft slot. We've debated about who the best shooter is in this draft and I think it's this kid. Spot-up, catch-and-shoot, coming off screens, off the dribble -- he's more than capable in different situations.

Terry shot 40.8-percent from three on 4.9 attempts per game. That's not necessarily blistering, but it's quite good especially for a freshman. Ironically, it's the same three-point percentage that Jamal Murray shot at Kentucky several years ago albeit on less attempts. Terry shot 42-percent from deep on spot-up threes (38 attempts) and 57.9-percent off screens (11 attempts) in his lone season at Stanford. Obviously, you'd like to see those attempts higher, but they help paint the picture of what his strengths are.

Terry's also quietly an elite finisher at the rim -- 61.5-percent shooting at the rim -- and a sneaky good defender despite his slight frame. He reminds me of Tyus Jones on that end, actually.

I like him a lot in this class and the Wolves have reportedly been in contact with him quite a bit during the draft process according to the local guys we rely on for news. I've seen Terry projected to go in the 20's and even as low as the early second-round. Personally, I like him at the back end of the lottery.

Seems gettable at #17. I do feel like after this draft, assuming we don't trade our picks for a vet, that we will have a bundle of young assets, of which hopefully a couple real gems could emerge: Nowell, Reid, Culver, Vanderbilt, McLaughlin, #1 pick, #17 pick....something has to pop there right!? For once?

So Terry is young, shoots 3's At a high percentage and can play defense? What's the knock on him?

Terry's no bigger than 6'3, 170-pounds and is at best an average NBA athlete. Not many, if any, players played significant minutes at that weight last season. He needs to add some bulk and strength to his frame. There are also questions about his ability to turn the corner past NBA level defenders and because of his size and mediocre athleticism there are concerns that he won't be as affective as a finisher amongst NBA rim protectors.

I think his strengths outweigh his faults, and NBA training staffs can usually help players improve their bodies. Look at Zach LaVine and Giannis Antetokounmpo now compared to where they were as teenagers. Who would have thought they would have their bodies like they do now? But yeah, I think Terry is going to be a nice pick for whoever nabs him.

monsterpile wrote:

Q12543 wrote:

Camden wrote:I think the Wolves are pretty set at point guard in the present and future as I believe D'Angelo Russell is quietly one of the more dynamic lead guards in the league, and Jordan McLaughlin is a quality backup at the position, BUT...

I really like Tyrell Terry. I probably have him higher on my board than most that I've seen and I think he'll easily outperform his draft slot. We've debated about who the best shooter is in this draft and I think it's this kid. Spot-up, catch-and-shoot, coming off screens, off the dribble -- he's more than capable in different situations.

Terry shot 40.8-percent from three on 4.9 attempts per game. That's not necessarily blistering, but it's quite good especially for a freshman. Ironically, it's the same three-point percentage that Jamal Murray shot at Kentucky several years ago albeit on less attempts. Terry shot 42-percent from deep on spot-up threes (38 attempts) and 57.9-percent off screens (11 attempts) in his lone season at Stanford. Obviously, you'd like to see those attempts higher, but they help paint the picture of what his strengths are.

Terry's also quietly an elite finisher at the rim -- 61.5-percent shooting at the rim -- and a sneaky good defender despite his slight frame. He reminds me of Tyus Jones on that end, actually.

I like him a lot in this class and the Wolves have reportedly been in contact with him quite a bit during the draft process according to the local guys we rely on for news. I've seen Terry projected to go in the 20's and even as low as the early second-round. Personally, I like him at the back end of the lottery.

Seems gettable at #17. I do feel like after this draft, assuming we don't trade our picks for a vet, that we will have a bundle of young assets, of which hopefully a couple real gems could emerge: Nowell, Reid, Culver, Vanderbilt, McLaughlin, #1 pick, #17 pick....something has to pop there right!? For once?

So Terry is young, shoots 3's At a high percentage and can play defense? What's the knock on him?

I can speak on Terry a little bit because I watched a lot of him in his HS days (I barely watched him as a freshman at Stanford). The reason I watched so much of Terry is he played with D1 Minnesota and I was watching the games to watch Matthew Hurt (was a top 10 recruit from Rochester John Marshal and currently plays for Duke). Terry is just a gamer, he always stood out on that D1 Minnesota team. he is good passer and knows how to run an offense. He is a very good shooter and got significantly better when in College.

The big knock on him is his size and strength. He is 6'2 160 and I think him being 160 might be generous. Reports are he has gained some weight since Covid has happened. Big worry that he is just a back up PG and will really struggle guarding the bigger faster PG in the NBA. Also from watching D1 Minnesota games he doesn't just take over games but to be fair to him he played on a team with a top 10 recruit in Hurt and a guy in Zeke Nnaji who will be drafted this year. He also competes on the defensive end but his size could kill him in the NBA.

I would say a good comp for him is a better shooting Tyus Jones. I think is most likely NBA destination is a above average backup PG who is a good spot starter in the league. His ceiling is poor man Steph Curry where he is an elite shooter in the NBA not to the level of Curry but will always be attacked on defense because of his size. His floor to me is like Carson Edwards and guy who could be a spark plug but just can't score in the NBA.

I have seen mocks of him being a top 10 pick and have seen mocks of him as a 2nd round pick. I would be cool with him at 17. Just don't know how he fits with Dlo and not sure if they could play together. I do like him as a player though

Terry really can play. Just a very smart efficient player. I heard he has grown and measured at 6 foot 3 now and like mentioned before has put on some muscle. I would love terry at 17. Kid can play. Watched him in high school and he is very good. Really smart and efficient. Heqrd his stock is climbing as of late.

Camden wrote:I think the Wolves are pretty set at point guard in the present and future as I believe D'Angelo Russell is quietly one of the more dynamic lead guards in the league, and Jordan McLaughlin is a quality backup at the position, BUT...

I really like Tyrell Terry. I probably have him higher on my board than most that I've seen and I think he'll easily outperform his draft slot. We've debated about who the best shooter is in this draft and I think it's this kid. Spot-up, catch-and-shoot, coming off screens, off the dribble -- he's more than capable in different situations.

Terry shot 40.8-percent from three on 4.9 attempts per game. That's not necessarily blistering, but it's quite good especially for a freshman. Ironically, it's the same three-point percentage that Jamal Murray shot at Kentucky several years ago albeit on less attempts. Terry shot 42-percent from deep on spot-up threes (38 attempts) and 57.9-percent off screens (11 attempts) in his lone season at Stanford. Obviously, you'd like to see those attempts higher, but they help paint the picture of what his strengths are.

Terry's also quietly an elite finisher at the rim -- 61.5-percent shooting at the rim -- and a sneaky good defender despite his slight frame. He reminds me of Tyus Jones on that end, actually.

I like him a lot in this class and the Wolves have reportedly been in contact with him quite a bit during the draft process according to the local guys we rely on for news. I've seen Terry projected to go in the 20's and even as low as the early second-round. Personally, I like him at the back end of the lottery.

Good analysis, Cam. I also read and agree with your other post where you accurately call out his weaknesses.

Regarding Terry's weight, I'll note that Allen Iverson played in the NBA at 165 pounds and he's in the hall of fame. Of course, I'm not suggesting that Terry is the next Iverson, but you get the point. At 160 lbs now, I anticipate Terry bulking up to at least 170 with muscle and no loss of quickness. In fact, adding some fast-twitch muscle might make him a bit quicker.

I'd be strongly inclined to take Terry at #17 if Saddiq Bey and Patrick Williams are off the board. However, you make a good point about need. Like you, I really like McLaughlin as our backup PG. I also think Culver showed him can play some lead guard and part of his value going forward will be his ability to grow into a player who can provide some minutes at that position. So I'm not sold on Terry from a need perspective. But I'm not sure we're at at point where we can count on McLaughlin or Culver to back up DLO. And we could certainly benefit from Terry's shooting. What I like most about Terry is his competitive intensity and high basketball IQ. The more I look at successful draft picks, the more I see those two qualities as the main drivers of NBA success.