monsterpile wrote:It's worth noting that the Wolves could sign Minott to a 2-way deal and still get him signed for the long term contract. If they still have a roster spot open they could sign him to a deal near the end of the season. They could also sign him to a 3 year deal coming off a 2-way contract like they did with McLaughlin and they gave McLaughlin probably a little extra money since he certainly could have been signed to an NBA deal if the Wolves would have been willing to use a roster spot to do so.
Having said that Minott so far has almost put up a double double in SL in less than 30mpg and while the overall shooting percentages are not good he has flashed more raw offensive potential than maybe I was even hoping for. It feels like he has done enough to get an NBA deal like Naz did but the Wolves are in a different spot than they were then. MN clearly likes Minott a lot so we will see if they end up with him on a 2-way deal or not. If they sign him to a regular NBA deal I wonder if they will fill that 15th roster spot with a vet big on a non-guaranteed deal. I think there will be useful players that would be willing to take such a deal like Greg Monroe. I think the Wolves want more of a true center sized guy that's a rim protector but settling for a guy like Monroe to give them an experienced bigger player that rebounds well and is an excellent passer isn't the worst thing especially when they could let him go and sign someone else if needed.
Good thoughts, Monster. Given the Wolves depleted draft stock (only 3 1st-round and 4 2nd-round picks in the next seven years), I think it's critical for the Wolves to err on the side of locking up their current young talent for as long and reliably as possible. That's why I think it's a no-brained to sign Minott to the equivalent of a 1st-round rookie scale deal. If they do that, the Wolves will have one remaining roster spot. I agree the Wolves should probably add another big. Right now, I think the Wolves are really vulnerable if Gobert is out. And let's face it, he's going to miss at least 10 games next season. He missed 16 games last season, 11 games the previous season and 14 games the season before that. We longer have Beverley defensively in the backcourt and we won't have Vando's defense and rebounding in the front court when Gobert is out. Facing the likelihood of not having Gobert's interior defense and rebounding in multiple games with Naz Reid as our only big off the bench is really troubling. That's why I wanted to sign Moses Brown - who could have at least picked up much of the rebounding slack in Gobert's absence. Naz is a poor defender AND a poor rebounder.
Right now, Greg Monroe is probably our best bet as a big to add to our roster. If we sign Minott as I believe we should, Monroe would take up our last roster spot. I'd prefer to leave that spot open going into the season, but I'm not sure we have that luxury. The Wolves could sign Monroe and release him later if the team needed or wanted someone else to fill a specific need via free agency or trade.
monsterpile wrote:It's worth noting that the Wolves could sign Minott to a 2-way deal and still get him signed for the long term contract. If they still have a roster spot open they could sign him to a deal near the end of the season. They could also sign him to a 3 year deal coming off a 2-way contract like they did with McLaughlin and they gave McLaughlin probably a little extra money since he certainly could have been signed to an NBA deal if the Wolves would have been willing to use a roster spot to do so.
Having said that Minott so far has almost put up a double double in SL in less than 30mpg and while the overall shooting percentages are not good he has flashed more raw offensive potential than maybe I was even hoping for. It feels like he has done enough to get an NBA deal like Naz did but the Wolves are in a different spot than they were then. MN clearly likes Minott a lot so we will see if they end up with him on a 2-way deal or not. If they sign him to a regular NBA deal I wonder if they will fill that 15th roster spot with a vet big on a non-guaranteed deal. I think there will be useful players that would be willing to take such a deal like Greg Monroe. I think the Wolves want more of a true center sized guy that's a rim protector but settling for a guy like Monroe to give them an experienced bigger player that rebounds well and is an excellent passer isn't the worst thing especially when they could let him go and sign someone else if needed.
Good thoughts, Monster. Given the Wolves depleted draft stock (only 3 1st-round and 4 2nd-round picks in the next seven years), I think it's critical for the Wolves to err on the side of locking up their current young talent for as long and reliably as possible. That's why I think it's a no-brained to sign Minott to the equivalent of a 1st-round rookie scale deal. If they do that, the Wolves will have one remaining roster spot. I agree the Wolves should probably add another big. Right now, I think the Wolves are really vulnerable if Gobert is out. And let's face it, he's going to miss at least 10 games next season. He missed 16 games last season, 11 games the previous season and 14 games the season before that. We longer have Beverley defensively in the backcourt and we won't have Vando's defense and rebounding in the front court when Gobert is out. Facing the likelihood of not having Gobert's interior defense and rebounding in multiple games with Naz Reid as our only big off the bench is really troubling. That's why I wanted to sign Moses Brown - who could have at least picked up much of the rebounding slack in Gobert's absence. Naz is a poor defender AND a poor rebounder.
Right now, Greg Monroe is probably our best bet as a big to add to our roster. If we sign Minott as I believe we should, Monroe would take up our last roster spot. I'd prefer to leave that spot open going into the season, but I'm not sure we have that luxury. The Wolves could sign Monroe and release him later if the team needed or wanted someone else to fill a specific need via free agency or trade.
I add that in the past I believe that a player coming off a 2-way deal their first season could not be offered anything more by another team than a vet min deal as a RFA. I could not find that detail this morning when I looked for it which would make it a bit more risky to sign Minott to a 2-way deal. I would not be surprised if that was changed with some of the others changes for 2-way contracts. Regardless it's very likely that whether the Wolves sign Minott to a 2-way deal or an NBA deal I think they will have him locked up long term.
I'll add that while Anderson isn't the rebounder Vanderbilt is he would be a pretty good player to put in the lineup even more minutes if Gobert was out for any length of time.
I just mentioned Monroe as one option of a non-guaranteed guy that the Wolves could add but idk if he is the best option. The Wolves clearly want a guy that's more of a defensive presence. I'm gonna take a not so wild guess and say there will be guys that fit that more than Monroe available when it's close to the season starting. Whether they are better players/more valuable to the Wolves than adding Monroe would be worth considering.
I tend to agree that the Wolves should go ahead and sign Minott to a 4 year deal and figure out a way to add a depth big to the roster some way while also allowing them to add another young player via a 2-way deal.
I do also think the Wolves like Nathan Knight a lot and they may think he could be ready for a bigger role than he already has. I think it's clear they would like to add someone more proven though.
monsterpile wrote:It's worth noting that the Wolves could sign Minott to a 2-way deal and still get him signed for the long term contract. If they still have a roster spot open they could sign him to a deal near the end of the season. They could also sign him to a 3 year deal coming off a 2-way contract like they did with McLaughlin and they gave McLaughlin probably a little extra money since he certainly could have been signed to an NBA deal if the Wolves would have been willing to use a roster spot to do so.
Having said that Minott so far has almost put up a double double in SL in less than 30mpg and while the overall shooting percentages are not good he has flashed more raw offensive potential than maybe I was even hoping for. It feels like he has done enough to get an NBA deal like Naz did but the Wolves are in a different spot than they were then. MN clearly likes Minott a lot so we will see if they end up with him on a 2-way deal or not. If they sign him to a regular NBA deal I wonder if they will fill that 15th roster spot with a vet big on a non-guaranteed deal. I think there will be useful players that would be willing to take such a deal like Greg Monroe. I think the Wolves want more of a true center sized guy that's a rim protector but settling for a guy like Monroe to give them an experienced bigger player that rebounds well and is an excellent passer isn't the worst thing especially when they could let him go and sign someone else if needed.
Good thoughts, Monster. Given the Wolves depleted draft stock (only 3 1st-round and 4 2nd-round picks in the next seven years), I think it's critical for the Wolves to err on the side of locking up their current young talent for as long and reliably as possible. That's why I think it's a no-brained to sign Minott to the equivalent of a 1st-round rookie scale deal. If they do that, the Wolves will have one remaining roster spot. I agree the Wolves should probably add another big. Right now, I think the Wolves are really vulnerable if Gobert is out. And let's face it, he's going to miss at least 10 games next season. He missed 16 games last season, 11 games the previous season and 14 games the season before that. We longer have Beverley defensively in the backcourt and we won't have Vando's defense and rebounding in the front court when Gobert is out. Facing the likelihood of not having Gobert's interior defense and rebounding in multiple games with Naz Reid as our only big off the bench is really troubling. That's why I wanted to sign Moses Brown - who could have at least picked up much of the rebounding slack in Gobert's absence. Naz is a poor defender AND a poor rebounder.
Right now, Greg Monroe is probably our best bet as a big to add to our roster. If we sign Minott as I believe we should, Monroe would take up our last roster spot. I'd prefer to leave that spot open going into the season, but I'm not sure we have that luxury. The Wolves could sign Monroe and release him later if the team needed or wanted someone else to fill a specific need via free agency or trade.
I add that in the past I believe that a player coming off a 2-way deal their first season could not be offered anything more by another team than a vet min deal as a RFA. I could not find that detail this morning when I looked for it which would make it a bit more risky to sign Minott to a 2-way deal. I would not be surprised if that was changed with some of the others changes for 2-way contracts. Regardless it's very likely that whether the Wolves sign Minott to a 2-way deal or an NBA deal I think they will have him locked up long term.
I'll add that while Anderson isn't the rebounder Vanderbilt is he would be a pretty good player to put in the lineup even more minutes if Gobert was out for any length of time.
I just mentioned Monroe as one option of a non-guaranteed guy that the Wolves could add but idk if he is the best option. The Wolves clearly want a guy that's more of a defensive presence. I'm gonna take a not so wild guess and say there will be guys that fit that more than Monroe available when it's close to the season starting. Whether they are better players/more valuable to the Wolves than adding Monroe would be worth considering.
I tend to agree that the Wolves should go ahead and sign Minott to a 4 year deal and figure out a way to add a depth big to the roster some way while also allowing them to add another young player via a 2-way deal.
I do also think the Wolves like Nathan Knight a lot and they may think he could be ready for a bigger role than he already has. I think it's clear they would like to add someone more proven though.
Good thoughts, Monster. I didn't see any currently available free agent bigs who would provide the sort of defensive presence the Wolves would want off the bench. Any thoughts on who is available (or might be available later) who could fit that bill? Otherwise, I agree that Monroe isn't an ideal fit.
I think you're right that the Wolves (Finch and Connelly) like Nathan Knight. It's interesting that he was in Vegas with McDaniels, Naz Reid and DLO. At one point, he was sitting next to Connelly. He would definitely provide some depth at the 4 or 5 spot on a two-way deal. But I hope the Wolves aren't counting on him for much. I also agree that Kyle Anderson is a solid PF off the bench.
monsterpile wrote:It's worth noting that the Wolves could sign Minott to a 2-way deal and still get him signed for the long term contract. If they still have a roster spot open they could sign him to a deal near the end of the season. They could also sign him to a 3 year deal coming off a 2-way contract like they did with McLaughlin and they gave McLaughlin probably a little extra money since he certainly could have been signed to an NBA deal if the Wolves would have been willing to use a roster spot to do so.
Having said that Minott so far has almost put up a double double in SL in less than 30mpg and while the overall shooting percentages are not good he has flashed more raw offensive potential than maybe I was even hoping for. It feels like he has done enough to get an NBA deal like Naz did but the Wolves are in a different spot than they were then. MN clearly likes Minott a lot so we will see if they end up with him on a 2-way deal or not. If they sign him to a regular NBA deal I wonder if they will fill that 15th roster spot with a vet big on a non-guaranteed deal. I think there will be useful players that would be willing to take such a deal like Greg Monroe. I think the Wolves want more of a true center sized guy that's a rim protector but settling for a guy like Monroe to give them an experienced bigger player that rebounds well and is an excellent passer isn't the worst thing especially when they could let him go and sign someone else if needed.
Good thoughts, Monster. Given the Wolves depleted draft stock (only 3 1st-round and 4 2nd-round picks in the next seven years), I think it's critical for the Wolves to err on the side of locking up their current young talent for as long and reliably as possible. That's why I think it's a no-brained to sign Minott to the equivalent of a 1st-round rookie scale deal. If they do that, the Wolves will have one remaining roster spot. I agree the Wolves should probably add another big. Right now, I think the Wolves are really vulnerable if Gobert is out. And let's face it, he's going to miss at least 10 games next season. He missed 16 games last season, 11 games the previous season and 14 games the season before that. We longer have Beverley defensively in the backcourt and we won't have Vando's defense and rebounding in the front court when Gobert is out. Facing the likelihood of not having Gobert's interior defense and rebounding in multiple games with Naz Reid as our only big off the bench is really troubling. That's why I wanted to sign Moses Brown - who could have at least picked up much of the rebounding slack in Gobert's absence. Naz is a poor defender AND a poor rebounder.
Right now, Greg Monroe is probably our best bet as a big to add to our roster. If we sign Minott as I believe we should, Monroe would take up our last roster spot. I'd prefer to leave that spot open going into the season, but I'm not sure we have that luxury. The Wolves could sign Monroe and release him later if the team needed or wanted someone else to fill a specific need via free agency or trade.
I add that in the past I believe that a player coming off a 2-way deal their first season could not be offered anything more by another team than a vet min deal as a RFA. I could not find that detail this morning when I looked for it which would make it a bit more risky to sign Minott to a 2-way deal. I would not be surprised if that was changed with some of the others changes for 2-way contracts. Regardless it's very likely that whether the Wolves sign Minott to a 2-way deal or an NBA deal I think they will have him locked up long term.
I'll add that while Anderson isn't the rebounder Vanderbilt is he would be a pretty good player to put in the lineup even more minutes if Gobert was out for any length of time.
I just mentioned Monroe as one option of a non-guaranteed guy that the Wolves could add but idk if he is the best option. The Wolves clearly want a guy that's more of a defensive presence. I'm gonna take a not so wild guess and say there will be guys that fit that more than Monroe available when it's close to the season starting. Whether they are better players/more valuable to the Wolves than adding Monroe would be worth considering.
I tend to agree that the Wolves should go ahead and sign Minott to a 4 year deal and figure out a way to add a depth big to the roster some way while also allowing them to add another young player via a 2-way deal.
I do also think the Wolves like Nathan Knight a lot and they may think he could be ready for a bigger role than he already has. I think it's clear they would like to add someone more proven though.
Good thoughts, Monster. I didn't see any currently available free agent bigs who would provide the sort of defensive presence the Wolves would want off the bench. Any thoughts on who is available (or might be available later) who could fit that bill? Otherwise, I agree that Monroe isn't an ideal fit.
I think you're right that the Wolves (Finch and Connelly) like Nathan Knight. It's interesting that he was in Vegas with McDaniels, Naz Reid and DLO. At one point, he was sitting next to Connelly. He would definitely provide some depth at the 4 or 5 spot on a two-way deal. But I hope the Wolves aren't counting on him for much. I also agree that Kyle Anderson is a solid PF off the bench.
I think there might be a guy like Cousins who the Wolves would be willing to simply sign him to the 15th roster spot. Looking at the FA list Whiteside is available but I'd be surprised if he didn't get a guaranteed deal but there are only a few teams that want a big older center as a backup. The fit here is good. WCS on a non-guaranteed deal might be a better fit for what is needed than Monroe. Aldridge wouldn't be bad either. Cody Zeller wrapped in bubble wrap on a non-guaranteed deal would be interesting. Meanwhile there could be another guy that will be cut loose. Boban is just one BIG name I can think of off the top of my head. Tacko fall is available! :)
monsterpile wrote:It's worth noting that the Wolves could sign Minott to a 2-way deal and still get him signed for the long term contract. If they still have a roster spot open they could sign him to a deal near the end of the season. They could also sign him to a 3 year deal coming off a 2-way contract like they did with McLaughlin and they gave McLaughlin probably a little extra money since he certainly could have been signed to an NBA deal if the Wolves would have been willing to use a roster spot to do so.
Having said that Minott so far has almost put up a double double in SL in less than 30mpg and while the overall shooting percentages are not good he has flashed more raw offensive potential than maybe I was even hoping for. It feels like he has done enough to get an NBA deal like Naz did but the Wolves are in a different spot than they were then. MN clearly likes Minott a lot so we will see if they end up with him on a 2-way deal or not. If they sign him to a regular NBA deal I wonder if they will fill that 15th roster spot with a vet big on a non-guaranteed deal. I think there will be useful players that would be willing to take such a deal like Greg Monroe. I think the Wolves want more of a true center sized guy that's a rim protector but settling for a guy like Monroe to give them an experienced bigger player that rebounds well and is an excellent passer isn't the worst thing especially when they could let him go and sign someone else if needed.
Good thoughts, Monster. Given the Wolves depleted draft stock (only 3 1st-round and 4 2nd-round picks in the next seven years), I think it's critical for the Wolves to err on the side of locking up their current young talent for as long and reliably as possible. That's why I think it's a no-brained to sign Minott to the equivalent of a 1st-round rookie scale deal. If they do that, the Wolves will have one remaining roster spot. I agree the Wolves should probably add another big. Right now, I think the Wolves are really vulnerable if Gobert is out. And let's face it, he's going to miss at least 10 games next season. He missed 16 games last season, 11 games the previous season and 14 games the season before that. We longer have Beverley defensively in the backcourt and we won't have Vando's defense and rebounding in the front court when Gobert is out. Facing the likelihood of not having Gobert's interior defense and rebounding in multiple games with Naz Reid as our only big off the bench is really troubling. That's why I wanted to sign Moses Brown - who could have at least picked up much of the rebounding slack in Gobert's absence. Naz is a poor defender AND a poor rebounder.
Right now, Greg Monroe is probably our best bet as a big to add to our roster. If we sign Minott as I believe we should, Monroe would take up our last roster spot. I'd prefer to leave that spot open going into the season, but I'm not sure we have that luxury. The Wolves could sign Monroe and release him later if the team needed or wanted someone else to fill a specific need via free agency or trade.
I add that in the past I believe that a player coming off a 2-way deal their first season could not be offered anything more by another team than a vet min deal as a RFA. I could not find that detail this morning when I looked for it which would make it a bit more risky to sign Minott to a 2-way deal. I would not be surprised if that was changed with some of the others changes for 2-way contracts. Regardless it's very likely that whether the Wolves sign Minott to a 2-way deal or an NBA deal I think they will have him locked up long term.
I'll add that while Anderson isn't the rebounder Vanderbilt is he would be a pretty good player to put in the lineup even more minutes if Gobert was out for any length of time.
I just mentioned Monroe as one option of a non-guaranteed guy that the Wolves could add but idk if he is the best option. The Wolves clearly want a guy that's more of a defensive presence. I'm gonna take a not so wild guess and say there will be guys that fit that more than Monroe available when it's close to the season starting. Whether they are better players/more valuable to the Wolves than adding Monroe would be worth considering.
I tend to agree that the Wolves should go ahead and sign Minott to a 4 year deal and figure out a way to add a depth big to the roster some way while also allowing them to add another young player via a 2-way deal.
I do also think the Wolves like Nathan Knight a lot and they may think he could be ready for a bigger role than he already has. I think it's clear they would like to add someone more proven though.
Good thoughts, Monster. I didn't see any currently available free agent bigs who would provide the sort of defensive presence the Wolves would want off the bench. Any thoughts on who is available (or might be available later) who could fit that bill? Otherwise, I agree that Monroe isn't an ideal fit.
I think you're right that the Wolves (Finch and Connelly) like Nathan Knight. It's interesting that he was in Vegas with McDaniels, Naz Reid and DLO. At one point, he was sitting next to Connelly. He would definitely provide some depth at the 4 or 5 spot on a two-way deal. But I hope the Wolves aren't counting on him for much. I also agree that Kyle Anderson is a solid PF off the bench.
I think there might be a guy like Cousins who the Wolves would be willing to simply sign him to the 15th roster spot. Looking at the FA list Whiteside is available but I'd be surprised if he didn't get a guaranteed deal but there are only a few teams that want a big older center as a backup. The fit here is good. WCS on a non-guaranteed deal might be a better fit for what is needed than Monroe. Aldridge wouldn't be bad either. Cody Zeller wrapped in bubble wrap on a non-guaranteed deal would be interesting. Meanwhile there could be another guy that will be cut loose. Boban is just one BIG name I can think of off the top of my head. Tacko fall is available! :)
Thanks. Those are some good ideas. But did you see Kekgeek's scoop in the other thread? Looks like Cousins is coming to Minnesota. :)
monsterpile wrote:It's worth noting that the Wolves could sign Minott to a 2-way deal and still get him signed for the long term contract. If they still have a roster spot open they could sign him to a deal near the end of the season. They could also sign him to a 3 year deal coming off a 2-way contract like they did with McLaughlin and they gave McLaughlin probably a little extra money since he certainly could have been signed to an NBA deal if the Wolves would have been willing to use a roster spot to do so.
Having said that Minott so far has almost put up a double double in SL in less than 30mpg and while the overall shooting percentages are not good he has flashed more raw offensive potential than maybe I was even hoping for. It feels like he has done enough to get an NBA deal like Naz did but the Wolves are in a different spot than they were then. MN clearly likes Minott a lot so we will see if they end up with him on a 2-way deal or not. If they sign him to a regular NBA deal I wonder if they will fill that 15th roster spot with a vet big on a non-guaranteed deal. I think there will be useful players that would be willing to take such a deal like Greg Monroe. I think the Wolves want more of a true center sized guy that's a rim protector but settling for a guy like Monroe to give them an experienced bigger player that rebounds well and is an excellent passer isn't the worst thing especially when they could let him go and sign someone else if needed.
Good thoughts, Monster. Given the Wolves depleted draft stock (only 3 1st-round and 4 2nd-round picks in the next seven years), I think it's critical for the Wolves to err on the side of locking up their current young talent for as long and reliably as possible. That's why I think it's a no-brained to sign Minott to the equivalent of a 1st-round rookie scale deal. If they do that, the Wolves will have one remaining roster spot. I agree the Wolves should probably add another big. Right now, I think the Wolves are really vulnerable if Gobert is out. And let's face it, he's going to miss at least 10 games next season. He missed 16 games last season, 11 games the previous season and 14 games the season before that. We longer have Beverley defensively in the backcourt and we won't have Vando's defense and rebounding in the front court when Gobert is out. Facing the likelihood of not having Gobert's interior defense and rebounding in multiple games with Naz Reid as our only big off the bench is really troubling. That's why I wanted to sign Moses Brown - who could have at least picked up much of the rebounding slack in Gobert's absence. Naz is a poor defender AND a poor rebounder.
Right now, Greg Monroe is probably our best bet as a big to add to our roster. If we sign Minott as I believe we should, Monroe would take up our last roster spot. I'd prefer to leave that spot open going into the season, but I'm not sure we have that luxury. The Wolves could sign Monroe and release him later if the team needed or wanted someone else to fill a specific need via free agency or trade.
I add that in the past I believe that a player coming off a 2-way deal their first season could not be offered anything more by another team than a vet min deal as a RFA. I could not find that detail this morning when I looked for it which would make it a bit more risky to sign Minott to a 2-way deal. I would not be surprised if that was changed with some of the others changes for 2-way contracts. Regardless it's very likely that whether the Wolves sign Minott to a 2-way deal or an NBA deal I think they will have him locked up long term.
I'll add that while Anderson isn't the rebounder Vanderbilt is he would be a pretty good player to put in the lineup even more minutes if Gobert was out for any length of time.
I just mentioned Monroe as one option of a non-guaranteed guy that the Wolves could add but idk if he is the best option. The Wolves clearly want a guy that's more of a defensive presence. I'm gonna take a not so wild guess and say there will be guys that fit that more than Monroe available when it's close to the season starting. Whether they are better players/more valuable to the Wolves than adding Monroe would be worth considering.
I tend to agree that the Wolves should go ahead and sign Minott to a 4 year deal and figure out a way to add a depth big to the roster some way while also allowing them to add another young player via a 2-way deal.
I do also think the Wolves like Nathan Knight a lot and they may think he could be ready for a bigger role than he already has. I think it's clear they would like to add someone more proven though.
Good thoughts, Monster. I didn't see any currently available free agent bigs who would provide the sort of defensive presence the Wolves would want off the bench. Any thoughts on who is available (or might be available later) who could fit that bill? Otherwise, I agree that Monroe isn't an ideal fit.
I think you're right that the Wolves (Finch and Connelly) like Nathan Knight. It's interesting that he was in Vegas with McDaniels, Naz Reid and DLO. At one point, he was sitting next to Connelly. He would definitely provide some depth at the 4 or 5 spot on a two-way deal. But I hope the Wolves aren't counting on him for much. I also agree that Kyle Anderson is a solid PF off the bench.
I think there might be a guy like Cousins who the Wolves would be willing to simply sign him to the 15th roster spot. Looking at the FA list Whiteside is available but I'd be surprised if he didn't get a guaranteed deal but there are only a few teams that want a big older center as a backup. The fit here is good. WCS on a non-guaranteed deal might be a better fit for what is needed than Monroe. Aldridge wouldn't be bad either. Cody Zeller wrapped in bubble wrap on a non-guaranteed deal would be interesting. Meanwhile there could be another guy that will be cut loose. Boban is just one BIG name I can think of off the top of my head. Tacko fall is available! :)
Thanks. Those are some good ideas. But did you see Kekgeek's scoop in the other thread? Looks like Cousins is coming to Minnesota. :)
I did. :) If Cousins comes here I think that would be a heck of a get for the Wolves.
monsterpile wrote:It's worth noting that the Wolves could sign Minott to a 2-way deal and still get him signed for the long term contract. If they still have a roster spot open they could sign him to a deal near the end of the season. They could also sign him to a 3 year deal coming off a 2-way contract like they did with McLaughlin and they gave McLaughlin probably a little extra money since he certainly could have been signed to an NBA deal if the Wolves would have been willing to use a roster spot to do so.
Having said that Minott so far has almost put up a double double in SL in less than 30mpg and while the overall shooting percentages are not good he has flashed more raw offensive potential than maybe I was even hoping for. It feels like he has done enough to get an NBA deal like Naz did but the Wolves are in a different spot than they were then. MN clearly likes Minott a lot so we will see if they end up with him on a 2-way deal or not. If they sign him to a regular NBA deal I wonder if they will fill that 15th roster spot with a vet big on a non-guaranteed deal. I think there will be useful players that would be willing to take such a deal like Greg Monroe. I think the Wolves want more of a true center sized guy that's a rim protector but settling for a guy like Monroe to give them an experienced bigger player that rebounds well and is an excellent passer isn't the worst thing especially when they could let him go and sign someone else if needed.
Good thoughts, Monster. Given the Wolves depleted draft stock (only 3 1st-round and 4 2nd-round picks in the next seven years), I think it's critical for the Wolves to err on the side of locking up their current young talent for as long and reliably as possible. That's why I think it's a no-brained to sign Minott to the equivalent of a 1st-round rookie scale deal. If they do that, the Wolves will have one remaining roster spot. I agree the Wolves should probably add another big. Right now, I think the Wolves are really vulnerable if Gobert is out. And let's face it, he's going to miss at least 10 games next season. He missed 16 games last season, 11 games the previous season and 14 games the season before that. We longer have Beverley defensively in the backcourt and we won't have Vando's defense and rebounding in the front court when Gobert is out. Facing the likelihood of not having Gobert's interior defense and rebounding in multiple games with Naz Reid as our only big off the bench is really troubling. That's why I wanted to sign Moses Brown - who could have at least picked up much of the rebounding slack in Gobert's absence. Naz is a poor defender AND a poor rebounder.
Right now, Greg Monroe is probably our best bet as a big to add to our roster. If we sign Minott as I believe we should, Monroe would take up our last roster spot. I'd prefer to leave that spot open going into the season, but I'm not sure we have that luxury. The Wolves could sign Monroe and release him later if the team needed or wanted someone else to fill a specific need via free agency or trade.
I add that in the past I believe that a player coming off a 2-way deal their first season could not be offered anything more by another team than a vet min deal as a RFA. I could not find that detail this morning when I looked for it which would make it a bit more risky to sign Minott to a 2-way deal. I would not be surprised if that was changed with some of the others changes for 2-way contracts. Regardless it's very likely that whether the Wolves sign Minott to a 2-way deal or an NBA deal I think they will have him locked up long term.
I'll add that while Anderson isn't the rebounder Vanderbilt is he would be a pretty good player to put in the lineup even more minutes if Gobert was out for any length of time.
I just mentioned Monroe as one option of a non-guaranteed guy that the Wolves could add but idk if he is the best option. The Wolves clearly want a guy that's more of a defensive presence. I'm gonna take a not so wild guess and say there will be guys that fit that more than Monroe available when it's close to the season starting. Whether they are better players/more valuable to the Wolves than adding Monroe would be worth considering.
I tend to agree that the Wolves should go ahead and sign Minott to a 4 year deal and figure out a way to add a depth big to the roster some way while also allowing them to add another young player via a 2-way deal.
I do also think the Wolves like Nathan Knight a lot and they may think he could be ready for a bigger role than he already has. I think it's clear they would like to add someone more proven though.
Good thoughts, Monster. I didn't see any currently available free agent bigs who would provide the sort of defensive presence the Wolves would want off the bench. Any thoughts on who is available (or might be available later) who could fit that bill? Otherwise, I agree that Monroe isn't an ideal fit.
I think you're right that the Wolves (Finch and Connelly) like Nathan Knight. It's interesting that he was in Vegas with McDaniels, Naz Reid and DLO. At one point, he was sitting next to Connelly. He would definitely provide some depth at the 4 or 5 spot on a two-way deal. But I hope the Wolves aren't counting on him for much. I also agree that Kyle Anderson is a solid PF off the bench.
I think there might be a guy like Cousins who the Wolves would be willing to simply sign him to the 15th roster spot. Looking at the FA list Whiteside is available but I'd be surprised if he didn't get a guaranteed deal but there are only a few teams that want a big older center as a backup. The fit here is good. WCS on a non-guaranteed deal might be a better fit for what is needed than Monroe. Aldridge wouldn't be bad either. Cody Zeller wrapped in bubble wrap on a non-guaranteed deal would be interesting. Meanwhile there could be another guy that will be cut loose. Boban is just one BIG name I can think of off the top of my head. Tacko fall is available! :)
Thanks. Those are some good ideas. But did you see Kekgeek's scoop in the other thread? Looks like Cousins is coming to Minnesota. :)
I did. :) If Cousins comes here I think that would be a heck of a get for the Wolves.
I agree. That would be a move I would wholeheartedly support. Not only would it be a heck of a get for the Wolves, it would be a huge feather in Kekgeek's cap and major boost to his budding career as an NBA insider. :)
monsterpile wrote:It's worth noting that the Wolves could sign Minott to a 2-way deal and still get him signed for the long term contract. If they still have a roster spot open they could sign him to a deal near the end of the season. They could also sign him to a 3 year deal coming off a 2-way contract like they did with McLaughlin and they gave McLaughlin probably a little extra money since he certainly could have been signed to an NBA deal if the Wolves would have been willing to use a roster spot to do so.
Having said that Minott so far has almost put up a double double in SL in less than 30mpg and while the overall shooting percentages are not good he has flashed more raw offensive potential than maybe I was even hoping for. It feels like he has done enough to get an NBA deal like Naz did but the Wolves are in a different spot than they were then. MN clearly likes Minott a lot so we will see if they end up with him on a 2-way deal or not. If they sign him to a regular NBA deal I wonder if they will fill that 15th roster spot with a vet big on a non-guaranteed deal. I think there will be useful players that would be willing to take such a deal like Greg Monroe. I think the Wolves want more of a true center sized guy that's a rim protector but settling for a guy like Monroe to give them an experienced bigger player that rebounds well and is an excellent passer isn't the worst thing especially when they could let him go and sign someone else if needed.
Good thoughts, Monster. Given the Wolves depleted draft stock (only 3 1st-round and 4 2nd-round picks in the next seven years), I think it's critical for the Wolves to err on the side of locking up their current young talent for as long and reliably as possible. That's why I think it's a no-brained to sign Minott to the equivalent of a 1st-round rookie scale deal. If they do that, the Wolves will have one remaining roster spot. I agree the Wolves should probably add another big. Right now, I think the Wolves are really vulnerable if Gobert is out. And let's face it, he's going to miss at least 10 games next season. He missed 16 games last season, 11 games the previous season and 14 games the season before that. We longer have Beverley defensively in the backcourt and we won't have Vando's defense and rebounding in the front court when Gobert is out. Facing the likelihood of not having Gobert's interior defense and rebounding in multiple games with Naz Reid as our only big off the bench is really troubling. That's why I wanted to sign Moses Brown - who could have at least picked up much of the rebounding slack in Gobert's absence. Naz is a poor defender AND a poor rebounder.
Right now, Greg Monroe is probably our best bet as a big to add to our roster. If we sign Minott as I believe we should, Monroe would take up our last roster spot. I'd prefer to leave that spot open going into the season, but I'm not sure we have that luxury. The Wolves could sign Monroe and release him later if the team needed or wanted someone else to fill a specific need via free agency or trade.
I add that in the past I believe that a player coming off a 2-way deal their first season could not be offered anything more by another team than a vet min deal as a RFA. I could not find that detail this morning when I looked for it which would make it a bit more risky to sign Minott to a 2-way deal. I would not be surprised if that was changed with some of the others changes for 2-way contracts. Regardless it's very likely that whether the Wolves sign Minott to a 2-way deal or an NBA deal I think they will have him locked up long term.
I'll add that while Anderson isn't the rebounder Vanderbilt is he would be a pretty good player to put in the lineup even more minutes if Gobert was out for any length of time.
I just mentioned Monroe as one option of a non-guaranteed guy that the Wolves could add but idk if he is the best option. The Wolves clearly want a guy that's more of a defensive presence. I'm gonna take a not so wild guess and say there will be guys that fit that more than Monroe available when it's close to the season starting. Whether they are better players/more valuable to the Wolves than adding Monroe would be worth considering.
I tend to agree that the Wolves should go ahead and sign Minott to a 4 year deal and figure out a way to add a depth big to the roster some way while also allowing them to add another young player via a 2-way deal.
I do also think the Wolves like Nathan Knight a lot and they may think he could be ready for a bigger role than he already has. I think it's clear they would like to add someone more proven though.
Good thoughts, Monster. I didn't see any currently available free agent bigs who would provide the sort of defensive presence the Wolves would want off the bench. Any thoughts on who is available (or might be available later) who could fit that bill? Otherwise, I agree that Monroe isn't an ideal fit.
I think you're right that the Wolves (Finch and Connelly) like Nathan Knight. It's interesting that he was in Vegas with McDaniels, Naz Reid and DLO. At one point, he was sitting next to Connelly. He would definitely provide some depth at the 4 or 5 spot on a two-way deal. But I hope the Wolves aren't counting on him for much. I also agree that Kyle Anderson is a solid PF off the bench.
I think there might be a guy like Cousins who the Wolves would be willing to simply sign him to the 15th roster spot. Looking at the FA list Whiteside is available but I'd be surprised if he didn't get a guaranteed deal but there are only a few teams that want a big older center as a backup. The fit here is good. WCS on a non-guaranteed deal might be a better fit for what is needed than Monroe. Aldridge wouldn't be bad either. Cody Zeller wrapped in bubble wrap on a non-guaranteed deal would be interesting. Meanwhile there could be another guy that will be cut loose. Boban is just one BIG name I can think of off the top of my head. Tacko fall is available! :)
Thanks. Those are some good ideas. But did you see Kekgeek's scoop in the other thread? Looks like Cousins is coming to Minnesota. :)
I did. :) If Cousins comes here I think that would be a heck of a get for the Wolves.
I agree. That would be a move I would wholeheartedly support. Not only would it be a heck of a get for the Wolves, it would be a huge feather in Kekgeek's cap and major boost to his budding career as an NBA insider. :)
As Michael Scott would say "That's
a win win win". :)
WildWolf2813 wrote:Got 4 years $6.8 mil no opt outs
Wow what a MASSIVE DEAL! That's only 300k less than the league record setting contract Kennedy Chandler signed... lol
In all seriousness great we got Minott signed for absolutely dirt cheap for 4 years. Looks great to me even if there ware no team options which I bet there are because even the great Kennedy chandler didn't have all of his money guaranteed.
