Camden0916 wrote:Very quietly, Ricky shot 36.1-percent from three last season albeit on low volume. With the league average three-point percentage being 35.8-percent last season you could argue that Rubio is now an above average shooter. Who saw that coming?
Camden0916 wrote:Very quietly, Ricky shot 36.1-percent from three last season albeit on low volume. With the league average three-point percentage being 35.8-percent last season you could argue that Rubio is now an above average shooter. Who saw that coming?
Man, I miss watching Ricky.
I really enjoyed that Ricky, Love, Pek trio.
I enjoyed Ricky's first year or two. After that, Adelman took the fun out of his game.
Camden0916 wrote:Very quietly, Ricky shot 36.1-percent from three last season albeit on low volume. With the league average three-point percentage being 35.8-percent last season you could argue that Rubio is now an above average shooter. Who saw that coming?
Man, I miss watching Ricky.
I really enjoyed that Ricky, Love, Pek trio.
I enjoyed Ricky's first year or two. After that, Adelman took the fun out of his game.
That injury was the worst. He became just hesitant enough to change his impact on the game. I think his change energy post injury was as significant as Adelman.
Camden0916 wrote:Very quietly, Ricky shot 36.1-percent from three last season albeit on low volume. With the league average three-point percentage being 35.8-percent last season you could argue that Rubio is now an above average shooter. Who saw that coming?
Man, I miss watching Ricky.
I really enjoyed that Ricky, Love, Pek trio.
I enjoyed Ricky's first year or two. After that, Adelman took the fun out of his game.
I feel like Adelman's structured offense was good for the team, but bad for Rubio's creativity and freedom to be flashy. I agree that he was a different during those years.
BizarroJerry wrote:Q do you have a chart with wolves shooting percentages pre, during, and post wolves tenure? That would be entertaining and/or depressing. Can you give us a short list?
Heh, nothing quite that elaborate, but basically 80% of our draft picks/young prospects over the past decade or so were competent college shooters that basically devolved as shooters with the Wolves:
Corey Brewer
Wes Johnson
Derrick Williams
Andrew Wiggins
Anthony Bennett
Kris Dunn
Josh Okogie
Keita Bates-Diop
Jarrett Culver
Jaylen Nowell (showed promise in G-league, but couldn't buy a bucket in the NBA)
I mean, really!? We couldn't turn one of these effing 34%+ college 3-pt shooters into a 34% or better pro shooter. Not one!?
KAT, Love, and LaVine might be our only success stories over the past decade when it comes to outside shooting developed from within the franchise. But that's about it. Pathetic.
I don't want to verify that so I'll accept your data. Let's reverse that trend under Rosas. He'll find his diamond in the rough this draft.
Camden0916 wrote:Very quietly, Ricky shot 36.1-percent from three last season albeit on low volume. With the league average three-point percentage being 35.8-percent last season you could argue that Rubio is now an above average shooter. Who saw that coming?
Man, I miss watching Ricky.
I really enjoyed that Ricky, Love, Pek trio.
I enjoyed Ricky's first year or two. After that, Adelman took the fun out of his game.
I feel like Adelman's structured offense was good for the team, but bad for Rubio's creativity and freedom to be flashy. I agree that he was a different during those years.
It's a shame we weren't able to acquire any actually talented athletes during Rubio's early time here. An Amare type with him, along with a few true knockdown shooters, would have been so fun to watch.
Instead he was stuck with Wes, Shabazz, Brewer, Randolph, Williams, and plodding bigs like Pek, Love, and Dieng.
BizarroJerry wrote:Q do you have a chart with wolves shooting percentages pre, during, and post wolves tenure? That would be entertaining and/or depressing. Can you give us a short list?
Heh, nothing quite that elaborate, but basically 80% of our draft picks/young prospects over the past decade or so were competent college shooters that basically devolved as shooters with the Wolves:
Corey Brewer
Wes Johnson
Derrick Williams
Andrew Wiggins
Anthony Bennett
Kris Dunn
Josh Okogie
Keita Bates-Diop
Jarrett Culver
Jaylen Nowell (showed promise in G-league, but couldn't buy a bucket in the NBA)
I mean, really!? We couldn't turn one of these effing 34%+ college 3-pt shooters into a 34% or better pro shooter. Not one!?
KAT, Love, and LaVine might be our only success stories over the past decade when it comes to outside shooting developed from within the franchise. But that's about it. Pathetic.
I don't want to verify that so I'll accept your data. Let's reverse that trend under Rosas. He'll find his diamond in the rough this draft.
If rumors are true that he is already shopping his #1 pick from his first year (that he moved up for), that does not give me a ton of hope in Rosas during the draft process. Maybe he just needs to stick to negotiating trades for proven NBA talent, which I wager he has been good at. This draft is huge for Rosas. Better be nothing short of great, especially if he moves Culver.
Otherwise, I chalk him up in the long line of failed FO personnel here.
Camden0916 wrote:Very quietly, Ricky shot 36.1-percent from three last season albeit on low volume. With the league average three-point percentage being 35.8-percent last season you could argue that Rubio is now an above average shooter. Who saw that coming?
Man, I miss watching Ricky.
I really enjoyed that Ricky, Love, Pek trio.
I enjoyed Ricky's first year or two. After that, Adelman took the fun out of his game.
I feel like Adelman's structured offense was good for the team, but bad for Rubio's creativity and freedom to be flashy. I agree that he was a different during those years.
It's a shame we weren't able to acquire any actually talented athletes during Rubio's early time here. An Amare type with him, along with a few true knockdown shooters, would have been so fun to watch.
Instead he was stuck with Wes, Shabazz, Brewer, Randolph, Williams, and plodding bigs like Pek, Love, and Dieng.
Pek fit well with Rubio and I think Love did too. They just really lacked another perimeter guy that was either and elite shooter or bucket getter. Kevin Martin was the closest thing they had imagine if Flip would have been able to land Reddick instead. He would have been really good with that group. Pek and Love would have had fun crushing people on random screens while JJ ran all over the place. Adelman was really good for Love he got more out of him than anyone. I do agree he may not have been best for Rubio but I do think the roster was lacking and had some unfortunate things happen that kept it from being more...including Adelman himself with his wife's illness...maybe Adelman would have figured out how to get the best out of Rubio and Love etc if it wasn't for that. How many games did Adelman actually coach a totally healthy Rubio? Remember Adelman missed some games as a coach because of his wife's illness.
Camden0916 wrote:Very quietly, Ricky shot 36.1-percent from three last season albeit on low volume. With the league average three-point percentage being 35.8-percent last season you could argue that Rubio is now an above average shooter. Who saw that coming?
Man, I miss watching Ricky.
I really enjoyed that Ricky, Love, Pek trio.
I enjoyed Ricky's first year or two. After that, Adelman took the fun out of his game.
I feel like Adelman's structured offense was good for the team, but bad for Rubio's creativity and freedom to be flashy. I agree that he was a different during those years.
It's a shame we weren't able to acquire any actually talented athletes during Rubio's early time here. An Amare type with him, along with a few true knockdown shooters, would have been so fun to watch.
Instead he was stuck with Wes, Shabazz, Brewer, Randolph, Williams, and plodding bigs like Pek, Love, and Dieng.
Pek fit well with Rubio and I think Love did too. They just really lacked another perimeter guy that was either and elite shooter or bucket getter. Kevin Martin was the closest thing they had imagine if Flip would have been able to land Reddick instead. He would have been really good with that group. Pek and Love would have had fun crushing people on random screens while JJ ran all over the place. Adelman was really good for Love he got more out of him than anyone. I do agree he may not have been best for Rubio but I do think the roster was lacking and had some unfortunate things happen that kept it from being more...including Adelman himself with his wife's illness...maybe Adelman would have figured out how to get the best out of Rubio and Love etc if it wasn't for that. How many games did Adelman actually coach a totally healthy Rubio? Remember Adelman missed some games as a coach because of his wife's illness.
Rick Adelman would actually be a really good head coach for this current group... It's a shame he's 74 years old and been away from the league for a while. We were ninth in ORtg and 12th in DRtg in 2013 under his watch. That wasn't the most talented team either. That 40-42 record looks more like a coaching masterpiece the more we get further from it.
Camden0916 wrote:Very quietly, Ricky shot 36.1-percent from three last season albeit on low volume. With the league average three-point percentage being 35.8-percent last season you could argue that Rubio is now an above average shooter. Who saw that coming?
Man, I miss watching Ricky.
I really enjoyed that Ricky, Love, Pek trio.
I enjoyed Ricky's first year or two. After that, Adelman took the fun out of his game.
I feel like Adelman's structured offense was good for the team, but bad for Rubio's creativity and freedom to be flashy. I agree that he was a different during those years.
It's a shame we weren't able to acquire any actually talented athletes during Rubio's early time here. An Amare type with him, along with a few true knockdown shooters, would have been so fun to watch.
Instead he was stuck with Wes, Shabazz, Brewer, Randolph, Williams, and plodding bigs like Pek, Love, and Dieng.
Pek fit well with Rubio and I think Love did too. They just really lacked another perimeter guy that was either and elite shooter or bucket getter. Kevin Martin was the closest thing they had imagine if Flip would have been able to land Reddick instead. He would have been really good with that group. Pek and Love would have had fun crushing people on random screens while JJ ran all over the place. Adelman was really good for Love he got more out of him than anyone. I do agree he may not have been best for Rubio but I do think the roster was lacking and had some unfortunate things happen that kept it from being more...including Adelman himself with his wife's illness...maybe Adelman would have figured out how to get the best out of Rubio and Love etc if it wasn't for that. How many games did Adelman actually coach a totally healthy Rubio? Remember Adelman missed some games as a coach because of his wife's illness.
Rick Adelman would actually be a really good head coach for this current group... It's a shame he's 74 years old and been away from the league for a while. We were ninth in ORtg and 12th in DRtg in 2013 under his watch. That wasn't the most talented team either. That 40-42 record looks more like a coaching masterpiece the more we get further from it.
How sad is it to say the Adelman has been our best coach in 10+ years?
