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sjm34 wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
TheFuture wrote:
CoolBreeze44 wrote:I was one who didn't mind the McDaniels pick. But in all honesty I hadn't heard about the mental problems a lot of you are talking about. I hope it's not a lack of intelligence because it is such an underrated trait. I hope it's more about immaturity, at least you have a chance to mature.


If one was to grow the perfect modern physical specimen player in a lab, it would be McDaniels. They just forgot to include the brain.


Lol. Nice one, Future. That's the post of the day!


Lip, I hope this isn't the re-incarnation of Anthony Randolph!

Is there a bylaw in the timberwolves articles of inc that says we can only draft dumb unmotivated players?


Lol. Further proof that Rosas is the second coming of David Kahn. :)
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lipoli390 wrote:
sjm34 wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
TheFuture wrote:
CoolBreeze44 wrote:I was one who didn't mind the McDaniels pick. But in all honesty I hadn't heard about the mental problems a lot of you are talking about. I hope it's not a lack of intelligence because it is such an underrated trait. I hope it's more about immaturity, at least you have a chance to mature.


If one was to grow the perfect modern physical specimen player in a lab, it would be McDaniels. They just forgot to include the brain.


Lol. Nice one, Future. That's the post of the day!


Lip, I hope this isn't the re-incarnation of Anthony Randolph!

Is there a bylaw in the timberwolves articles of inc that says we can only draft dumb unmotivated players?


Lol. Further proof that Rosas is the second coming of David Kahn. :)


Personally I can probably live with a swing like him at #28 but I get if other people aren't keen on it. I'll dig in a little more about him in the future. I'm sort of intrigued by his raw talent and skills...at least offensively.
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monsterpile wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
sjm34 wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
TheFuture wrote:
CoolBreeze44 wrote:I was one who didn't mind the McDaniels pick. But in all honesty I hadn't heard about the mental problems a lot of you are talking about. I hope it's not a lack of intelligence because it is such an underrated trait. I hope it's more about immaturity, at least you have a chance to mature.


If one was to grow the perfect modern physical specimen player in a lab, it would be McDaniels. They just forgot to include the brain.


Lol. Nice one, Future. That's the post of the day!


Lip, I hope this isn't the re-incarnation of Anthony Randolph!

Is there a bylaw in the timberwolves articles of inc that says we can only draft dumb unmotivated players?


Lol. Further proof that Rosas is the second coming of David Kahn. :)


Personally I can probably live with a swing like him at #28 but I get if other people aren't keen on it. I'll dig in a little more about him in the future. I'm sort of intrigued by his raw talent and skills...at least offensively.


I can't speak for anyone else, but for me it's more about the talent that Rosas and team left on the table to trade up for Bolmaro and take McDaniels. Not really worried about their draft slots. Much, much better players up for grabs at both spots.
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Camden0916 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
sjm34 wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
TheFuture wrote:
CoolBreeze44 wrote:I was one who didn't mind the McDaniels pick. But in all honesty I hadn't heard about the mental problems a lot of you are talking about. I hope it's not a lack of intelligence because it is such an underrated trait. I hope it's more about immaturity, at least you have a chance to mature.


If one was to grow the perfect modern physical specimen player in a lab, it would be McDaniels. They just forgot to include the brain.


Lol. Nice one, Future. That's the post of the day!


Lip, I hope this isn't the re-incarnation of Anthony Randolph!

Is there a bylaw in the timberwolves articles of inc that says we can only draft dumb unmotivated players?


Lol. Further proof that Rosas is the second coming of David Kahn. :)


Personally I can probably live with a swing like him at #28 but I get if other people aren't keen on it. I'll dig in a little more about him in the future. I'm sort of intrigued by his raw talent and skills...at least offensively.


I can't speak for anyone else, but for me it's more about the talent that Rosas and team left on the table to trade up for Bolmaro and take McDaniels. Not really worried about their draft slots. Much, much better players up for grabs at both spots.


Who did you want Cam?
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On the upside, at least he isn't a SG.
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Camden wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
sjm34 wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
TheFuture wrote:
CoolBreeze44 wrote:I was one who didn't mind the McDaniels pick. But in all honesty I hadn't heard about the mental problems a lot of you are talking about. I hope it's not a lack of intelligence because it is such an underrated trait. I hope it's more about immaturity, at least you have a chance to mature.


If one was to grow the perfect modern physical specimen player in a lab, it would be McDaniels. They just forgot to include the brain.


Lol. Nice one, Future. That's the post of the day!


Lip, I hope this isn't the re-incarnation of Anthony Randolph!

Is there a bylaw in the timberwolves articles of inc that says we can only draft dumb unmotivated players?


Lol. Further proof that Rosas is the second coming of David Kahn. :)


Personally I can probably live with a swing like him at #28 but I get if other people aren't keen on it. I'll dig in a little more about him in the future. I'm sort of intrigued by his raw talent and skills...at least offensively.


I can't speak for anyone else, but for me it's more about the talent that Rosas and team left on the table to trade up for Bolmaro and take McDaniels. Not really worried about their draft slots. Much, much better players up for grabs at both spots.


That's my take, too. Ideally we would have stayed at #17 and drafted Saddiq Bey. The fact that he was available at that point was manna from heaven as David Kahn once said about Darko. But even after the Rubio deal, there were much better alternatives available at the #25 and 28 spots. Here are some of them in my order of preference:

1. Tyrell Terry (available at #25 or 28)
2. Desmond Bane (available at 25 or 28)
3. Payton Pritchard (available at 25)
4. Judoka Azubuike (available at 25)
5. Tyler Bey (available at 25 or 28)
6. Daniel Oturu
7. Xavier Tillman
8. Robert Woodard
9. Tre Jones

Having drafted Edwards and traded for Ricky, I probably wouldn't have drafted Pritchard or Jones, although I would have still drafted Terry because I think he's going to be a great NBA player. But there were some really good front-court prospects like Bane, Tyler Bey, Azubuike, etc. who have the potential to be really sold rotational players, help defensively and contribute right away. McDaniels bust potential is as off the charts. And I just don't think Bolmaro is as good as guys I listed. He certainly wasn't worth trading up for.
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monsterpile wrote:
Camden0916 wrote:

I can't speak for anyone else, but for me it's more about the talent that Rosas and team left on the table to trade up for Bolmaro and take McDaniels. Not really worried about their draft slots. Much, much better players up for grabs at both spots.


Who did you want Cam?


I thought Saddiq Bey falling to 17 would be a pipe dream so that's where I'd start for my what if's. Ricky Rubio is a real contributor, but he wasn't a need on this team by any means. Anyone who says differently is blinded by their own nostalgia or biases. Jordan McLaughlin is more than capable of being the second unit's point guard and eating up whatever minutes D'Angelo Russell isn't taking up. And even if you don't believe in McLaughlin, there are many available point guards that can produce off the bench. Rubio is a luxury that this team can't afford without paying for it at the expense of other positions. But yeah, Bey at 17 for sure.

And assuming my opinion means nothing -- because it doesn't -- and Gersson Rosas still trades 17 for Rubio, 25, and 28, then I would have made every attempt to trade up to 19 or 20 using those picks for either Bey, who was still available, or even Precious Achiuwa.

And lastly, assuming I couldn't trade up whatsoever, I would have felt much more comfortable taking Tyler Bey, Reggie Perry, Desmond Bane, Tyrell Terry, etc. There's a number of guys I liked more than the two we wound up with.
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Camden wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
Camden0916 wrote:

I can't speak for anyone else, but for me it's more about the talent that Rosas and team left on the table to trade up for Bolmaro and take McDaniels. Not really worried about their draft slots. Much, much better players up for grabs at both spots.


Who did you want Cam?


I thought Saddiq Bey falling to 17 would be a pipe dream so that's where I'd start for my what if's. Ricky Rubio is a real contributor, but he wasn't a need on this team by any means. Anyone who says differently is blinded by their own nostalgia or biases. Jordan McLaughlin is more than capable of being the second unit's point guard and eating up whatever minutes D'Angelo Russell isn't taking up. And even if you don't believe in McLaughlin, there are many available point guards that can produce off the bench. Rubio is a luxury that this team can't afford without paying for it at the expense of other positions. But yeah, Bey at 17 for sure.

And assuming my opinion means nothing -- because it doesn't -- and Gersson Rosas still trades 17 for Rubio, 25, and 28, then I would have made every attempt to trade up to 19 or 20 using those picks for either Bey, who was still available, or even Precious Achiuwa.

And lastly, assuming I couldn't trade up whatsoever, I would have felt much more comfortable taking Tyler Bey, Reggie Perry, Desmond Bane, Tyrell Terry, etc. There's a number of guys I liked more than the two we wound up with.


Precious Achiuwa was another guy who would have been a great addition to the Wolves. He ha a great motor, plays both sides of the ball and has great potential. But he doesn't have to reach his potential to contribute right away because of his high-octane motor, size and athleticism.
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This all is starting to remind me of when the Wolves missed out on drafting Luke Babbitt because they traded #16 for Martell Webster.
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mrhockey89 wrote:This all is starting to remind me of when the Wolves missed out on drafting Luke Babbitt because they traded #16 for Martell Webster.


Here's the sad thing, mrhockey. Some of us non-professionals on this board have a much better armchair draft record than the guys who are actually in those positions earning six or seven figures to make those decisions. This is a franchise who has notoriously botched draft pick after draft pick and most of the time it's because they went against common sense. Minnesota routinely misses the easy ones and it bites them in the ass for a decade. Here we have Gersson Rosas who, by all accounts, misplayed his hand in last year's draft. Why should any of us have this unmitigated, unwavering sense of confidence in his decisions this time?
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