Q12543 wrote:Nowell picked up where he left off after a 4-day break and scorerd 27 points on 9-15 shooting, 4-5 from 3. He was a team-leading +29 and rebounded and assisted well too. He continues play consistently good ball down there. Very encouraging.
Starting to wonder if we could have had our own kendrick nunn or devontae graham, if nowell was given the same opportunities as okogie or culver.
Q12543 wrote:Nowell picked up where he left off after a 4-day break and scorerd 27 points on 9-15 shooting, 4-5 from 3. He was a team-leading +29 and rebounded and assisted well too. He continues play consistently good ball down there. Very encouraging.
Starting to wonder if we could have had our own kendrick nunn or devontae graham, if nowell was given the same opportunities as okogie or culver.
It's time to make him part of the NBA Wolves rotation.
Q12543 wrote:Nowell picked up where he left off after a 4-day break and scorerd 27 points on 9-15 shooting, 4-5 from 3. He was a team-leading +29 and rebounded and assisted well too. He continues play consistently good ball down there. Very encouraging.
Starting to wonder if we could have had our own kendrick nunn or devontae graham, if nowell was given the same opportunities as okogie or culver.
It's time to make him part of the NBA Wolves rotation.
He should at least have a shot at Martin's minutes. It's also worth mentioning that Nunn and Graham (before bursting into the scene this year) played a year of professional basketball in addition to playing 4 years of college basketball.
Just watched the condensed game and reviewed the box score. Nowell has a few pretty nice passes in this game.
McLaughlin was absolutely blowing past some guys at times.
My guy Jordon Murphy keeps doing his thing. The Wolves had 5 guys score 20 more more points and he was one of them.
Speaking of scoring Wigginton can put points on the the board. He is fun to see when he gets rollin. He is currently averaging almost 16ppg off the bench. It feels like this team is pretty deep.
Q12543 wrote:Nowell picked up where he left off after a 4-day break and scorerd 27 points on 9-15 shooting, 4-5 from 3. He was a team-leading +29 and rebounded and assisted well too. He continues play consistently good ball down there. Very encouraging.
Starting to wonder if we could have had our own kendrick nunn or devontae graham, if nowell was given the same opportunities as okogie or culver.
It's time to make him part of the NBA Wolves rotation.
He should at least have a shot at Martin's minutes. It's also worth mentioning that Nunn and Graham (before bursting into the scene this year) played a year of professional basketball in addition to playing 4 years of college basketball.
Just watched the condensed game and reviewed the box score. Nowell has a few pretty nice passes in this game.
McLaughlin was absolutely blowing past some guys at times.
My guy Jordon Murphy keeps doing his thing. The Wolves had 5 guys score 20 more more points and he was one of them.
Speaking of scoring Wigginton can put points on the the board. He is fun to see when he gets rollin. He is currently averaging almost 16ppg off the bench. It feels like this team is pretty deep.
I'd rather see Nowell get Teague's minutes so that Martin can continue to get some meaningful PT even as he struggles. But that's based on my view that this should be a transitional/developmental year for this team.
I agree it's worth noting Nunn and Graham played 4 years in college and a year professionally before this season. But at the end of the day, you take each player as you find him. Millsap played 3 years of college and the next season he played all 82 games, averaging 18 minutes per game, for the Jazz. Nowell's G-League stats aren't just good, they are elite. He's averaging 21.4 points, 5.2 rebounds and 3.5 assists per game, while hitting 51% of his high volume field goal attempts and 44.3% of this 3-point attempts on moderate volume. Importantly, those stats aren't anomalous, but are instead a continuation of what he did in college. Recall that last season, as a college Sophomore, Nowell averaged 16 points, 5.3 rebounds and 3.1 assists while shooting 50.2% from the field and 44% from behind the college arc. He was a top tier athlete in the draft combine and has decent size for an NBA SG. Nowell's numbers through college and more recently the G-League are too good for him to remain in the G-League. This is an evaluation season for the Wolves and Nowell has already passed the G-League test with flying colors. It's time for him to get an extended run with the NBA team, through good and bad, to see what he can be and facilitate his development against NBA competition.
Q12543 wrote:Nowell picked up where he left off after a 4-day break and scorerd 27 points on 9-15 shooting, 4-5 from 3. He was a team-leading +29 and rebounded and assisted well too. He continues play consistently good ball down there. Very encouraging.
Starting to wonder if we could have had our own kendrick nunn or devontae graham, if nowell was given the same opportunities as okogie or culver.
It's time to make him part of the NBA Wolves rotation.
He should at least have a shot at Martin's minutes. It's also worth mentioning that Nunn and Graham (before bursting into the scene this year) played a year of professional basketball in addition to playing 4 years of college basketball.
Just watched the condensed game and reviewed the box score. Nowell has a few pretty nice passes in this game.
McLaughlin was absolutely blowing past some guys at times.
My guy Jordon Murphy keeps doing his thing. The Wolves had 5 guys score 20 more more points and he was one of them.
Speaking of scoring Wigginton can put points on the the board. He is fun to see when he gets rollin. He is currently averaging almost 16ppg off the bench. It feels like this team is pretty deep.
I'd rather see Nowell get Teague's minutes so that Martin can continue to get some meaningful PT even as he struggles. But that's based on my view that this should be a transitional/developmental year for this team.
I agree it's worth noting Nunn and Graham played 4 years in college and a year professionally before this season. But at the end of the day, you take each player as you find him. Millsap played 3 years of college and the next season he played all 82 games, averaging 18 minutes per game, for the Jazz. Nowell's G-League stats aren't just good, they are elite. He's averaging 21.4 points, 5.2 rebounds and 3.5 assists per game, while hitting 51% of his high volume field goal attempts and 44.3% of this 3-point attempts on moderate volume. Importantly, those stats aren't anomalous, but are instead a continuation of what he did in college. Recall that last season, as a college Sophomore, Nowell averaged 16 points, 5.3 rebounds and 3.1 assists while shooting 50.2% from the field and 44% from behind the college arc. He was a top tier athlete in the draft combine and has decent size for an NBA SG. Nowell's numbers through college and more recently the G-League are too good for him to remain in the G-League. This is an evaluation season for the Wolves and Nowell has already passed the G-League test with flying colors. It's time for him to get an extended run with the NBA team, through good and bad, to see what he can be and facilitate his development against NBA competition.
I agree you take guys as they come but part of what I was getting at was the numbers Graham and Nunn put up last year in the G-league were pretty good also. Nowell's efficiency is obviously better but its also based on 10 g-league games. The G-league is a good place for players to develop and as teams get better at actually utilizing it the talent and competition will get even better. I'm not opposed to Nowell playing more at the NBA level but I also think there is some value in him continue to play a lot in the g-league. Maybe the best argument for keeping him there and playing him plenty of minutes is to get and keep him in the mode of volume 3 point shooting. His volume in college was about 3 attempts a game (quite low for a guy with his seeming shooting prowess) and in Iowa he is shooting nearly double that. He is a good scorer (so he shouldn't be limited to just jacking up 3's) but I wouldn't mind seeing his attempts go even higher from 3. Playing in the g-league can develop guys even if they look better than the competition there. Another consideration is since we aren't watching games we have no idea what he is doing on the defensive end. Since he played in a zone maybe he can use some more development in that area at a lower level. The team as a whole is rated poorly in defensive rating according to BB reference which..probably isn't that surprising and doesnt' mean Nowell sucks on that end either. As for Nowell taking Teague's minutes...I'm gonna hope Teague's breakout game against OKC is some sort of bounceback thing and he can play at a reasonable level. You got to admit its hard to believe Teague is as bad as he was the previous few games. Now if we go another 3-5 games and he returns to the player he was the few games before that...well yeah lets look at ALL options (LOL) including maybe even giving McLaughlin some minutes. I wonder how many days Martin has used so far of his allotment. At some point this season unless we get and stay healthy he is going to be limited in playing games because he is a 2-way guy. Regardless it feels like we have some legit reasons to be excited about guys down there and I think its fair to give Rosas and his group a bit of the benefit of the doubt in terms of how they handle players there because Rosas was part of one of the franchises that really started using that league to help the NBA franchise. He is going to make the Iowa Wolves a priority and knows first hand the value of players developing from there.
The fact that we're debating more playing time for multiple players on the Wolves G-League affiliate is a good sign and a positive departure from past seasons.
Regarding Nowell, I think you make a good point about the G-League as an opportunity for him to continue ramping up his 3-point volume. Playing with the Iowa team, he doesn't have to worry about deferring to KAT, Wiggins or Covington when it comes to launching long-range shots. He's already taken his 3-point attempts up from 3 attempts to 6 attempts per game. And you're right that we don't know how well he's defending his position. So there are reasons to keep him with the G-League squad longer. However, if he keeps up his current G-League performance level for another month, then I think he needs to join the NBA squad as part of the rotation for the rest of the season. This team needs to develop and evaluate its young talent sooner rather than later against NBA competition, especially young players like Nowell who can shoot. And I think he could benefit from daily coaching from Vanterpool, who had a major hand in the development of Lillard and McCollum.
Regarding Teague, he's definitely bit of an enigma. He can be very good as he was against the Thunder and by all accounts he's a great teammate. But honestly, I'm not interested in how well he plays except to the extent playing well enhances his trade value. Given his age and style of play, it's highly likely he'll be part of the Wolves going forward after this season. Therefore, I don't see any value in giving him minutes with the Wolves this season. If he's really good and helps the team win significantly more games and then leaves after this season (which is highly likely), he'll hurt the team's draft position without any countervailing long-term benefit. It will be a net negative. And regardless of whether he plays well or poorly, his minutes will deny minutes for other younger players who could potentially be part of the Wolves future beyond this season -- thus denying the opportunity to fully evaluate and/or develop those young players. Rosas has clearly committed this team to a long-term strategy building around KAT with talented players close to his age. Rosas also talks about alignment within the organization. Playing Teague significant minutes instead of the younger guys doesn't align with Gersson's strategy and it makes little if any sense.
The fact that we're debating more playing time for multiple players on the Wolves G-League affiliate is a good sign and a positive departure from past seasons.
Regarding Nowell, I think you make a good point about the G-League as an opportunity for him to continue ramping up his 3-point volume. Playing with the Iowa team, he doesn't have to worry about deferring to KAT, Wiggins or Covington when it comes to launching long-range shots. He's already taken his 3-point attempts up from 3 attempts to 6 attempts per game. And you're right that we don't know how well he's defending his position. So there are reasons to keep him with the G-League squad longer. However, if he keeps up his current G-League performance level for another month, then I think he needs to join the NBA squad as part of the rotation for the rest of the season. This team needs to develop and evaluate its young talent sooner rather than later against NBA competition, especially young players like Nowell who can shoot. And I think he could benefit from daily coaching from Vanterpool, who had a major hand in the development of Lillard and McCollum.
Regarding Teague, he's definitely bit of an enigma. He can be very good as he was against the Thunder and by all accounts he's a great teammate. But honestly, I'm not interested in how well he plays except to the extent playing well enhances his trade value. Given his age and style of play, it's highly likely he'll be part of the Wolves going forward after this season. Therefore, I don't see any value in giving him minutes with the Wolves this season. If he's really good and helps the team win significantly more games and then leaves after this season (which is highly likely), he'll hurt the team's draft position without any countervailing long-term benefit. It will be a net negative. And regardless of whether he plays well or poorly, his minutes will deny minutes for other younger players who could potentially be part of the Wolves future beyond this season -- thus denying the opportunity to fully evaluate and/or develop those young players. Rosas has clearly committed this team to a long-term strategy building around KAT with talented players close to his age. Rosas also talks about alignment within the organization. Playing Teague significant minutes instead of the younger guys doesn't align with Gersson's strategy and it makes little if any sense.
Another thing about Nowell getting his 3's up in Iowa is...he is playing with McLaughlin who is a true PG and a pretty good one at that level. Naz Reid and Murphy are pretty good passing bigs. I've seen I think its Johnson make some good passes too.
In one of Dane Moore's latest podcats he and Britt Robson went back and forth about what might happen with Teague. Both guys tend to give Teague more credit than some as a worthwhile player but Britt is REALLY down on Teague's defense (hard to argue with on the whole this year). Basically they said it was pretty difficult to see the Wolves just bench Teague. Dane said it was hard to see what wing should be playing more than Teague because its likely Teague will be better than the guys they would put out there. I tend to agree with that...assuming Teague is not dealing with some sort of injury that really hamprs him. I think the foot is a problem tough. Britt said it would be hard for Teague's minutes to just go away with his salary vet standing and the fact that he is playing for another contract he isn't buying that the Wolves would be able to basically just sit him. Meanwhile I think we can see the Wolves are both developing for the future (playing Culver) and also playing for now with Dieng taking over the backup C minutes instead of a younger player. This team is in a playoff hunt and the reality si they don't exactly ahve some awesome expiring assets to just dump to contenders. With Teague the thing that will become more interesting is what happens when Napier gets healthy and playing solid most nights. Will another wing step up or get healthy (Layman) and make things more difficult to decide who plays in addition to younger players having earned a bit of a shot? Will there be a point in the season that Naz Reid should get a shot to see what he can do? To me Naz just playing a whole year int he G-league is more fine with me because he is less experienced and likely went undrtafted for a reason. Plus the Wolves have lots of options right now that probably deserve some level of minutes. Again I will not be surprised if Teague sits a game here or there as basically rest or whatever. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Teague suggest another player to take minutes from him if they deserve it. I don't even think that's ridiculous to consider when he was stumping for Tyus just a few games into the first season Teague was here. It's kind of unfortunate that despite everything I think Teague the guy should be more well liked by the Wolves fan base than he is. I personally think if this team actually hangs around and finishes near .500 mark that will help this team long term. They will have something to build on and they might have some gains in players wanting to join them this offseason not waiting another year. in addition we have seen teams pick good players that are outside of the top picks. Good teams develop players in a variety of ways find talent in a variety of ways and don't have to pray that they lose 31 or less games a year to be good later. I'm expecting this team to be one of those franchises. I'm not suggesting we don't need any luck or we can carry ourselves like we have THE new smart organization but I'm kinda done with the fatalistic we have to suck to get good. Also the odds don't favor sucking as much as they used to. A couple week from now we could see Dieng struggle and Vonleh enter the rotation again. I think most of the moves the Wolves have made so far this year have been based on merit except maybe Martin although he did play well early on so the looked smart by getting him minutes. He will always be able to tell stories about how he threw up floater after floater on Rudy Gobert and they went in! =)
Nowell just keeps on truckin' along: 26 points, 11 boards, and 4 assists. 9-18 from the field, 5-10 from three. He has been incredibly consistent with his shooting and scoring. Iowa lost but Nowell was a +6 while on the floor.
Q12543 wrote:Nowell just keeps on truckin' along: 26 points, 11 boards, and 4 assists. 9-18 from the field, 5-10 from three. He has been incredibly consistent with his shooting and scoring. Iowa lost but Nowell was a +6 while on the floor.
I always think G-League stats are skewed but I would rather see these numbers than not see these numbers. Like every other Wolf ever can he hit the open 3 when he is on the roster. But I have been loving the stat lines by Nowell
Q12543 wrote:Nowell just keeps on truckin' along: 26 points, 11 boards, and 4 assists. 9-18 from the field, 5-10 from three. He has been incredibly consistent with his shooting and scoring. Iowa lost but Nowell was a +6 while on the floor.
I always think G-League stats are skewed but I would rather see these numbers than not see these numbers. Like every other Wolf ever can he hit the open 3 when he is on the roster. But I have been loving the stat lines by Nowell
Nowell didn't just become a highly efficient, accurate shooter in the G-League. That was his MO in college as well. If he's hitting open 3s in the G-League, he can hit them in the NBA. Of course, we'll never know for sure unless he gets to actually play significant minutes in the NBA. Instead of chasing max contract dreams like DLO, the Wolves organization should have Nowell in the rotation with the NBA team.
