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We have a good backup, named Andre
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Looking at Ricky's stats to this point, he has his TO's down, and his TS% is up substantially. He's an average player offensively at this point (if he can maintain this). Clearly his health is the biggest unknown, and he is still shooting the ball on a line drive most nights. I have witnessed a better arc on a low percentage of his shots, so maybe that will translate over time.
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sjm34 wrote:Looking at Ricky's stats to this point, he has his TO's down, and his TS% is up substantially. He's an average player offensively at this point (if he can maintain this). Clearly his health is the biggest unknown, and he is still shooting the ball on a line drive most nights. I have witnessed a better arc on a low percentage of his shots, so maybe that will translate over time.


To me the difference is his shots on the move is different in a good way. His body his legs and lift and his shot all look so much smoother and natural. Before is just wasn't in sync. Most of time now it looks in sync. His 3 point shot looks like his old set shot which tended to work ok. It looks sorta awkward now compared to the midrange stuff he has been shooting. My guess is that the 3 ball shot might look a bit rough for a bit as he works through adjusting.

I will add that when he drives he looks a little more aggressive in his finishes. In the past he was falling away so much from contact and flailing the ball out there. At times he has even tried to draw the foul this year. Some of that is probably feeling healthy but even though he has missed some easy buckets the way he looked to finish them looked like a guy that is putting up shots you would expect to go in at a reasonable rate for an NBA player. Hopefully that continues. Also his attempting to draw fouls aggressively as a shooter is plenty encouraging. He knows how to draw fouls as a ball handler so hopefully he translates that skill and the early results are promising. He just flat out looks aggressive and confident overall as a player. He has exceeded my expectations physically I thought there would be more rust but not really he looks as good as he ever has.
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The year before last, his 3rd season in the league when he played all 82 games, he ended up with a 49 TS%, which was a career high for him, as he gradually increased his efficiency in each of his first three seasons. Then last year it took a major hit.

I'm not very confident that he can get it much higher than something in the 49-51% range. I realize it's at 53% right now, but that first game against the Lakers is still largely influencing the metric.

I honestly don't see much different about his shot. Just like any other player, getting more experience and feeling healthy will help, so I'm hopeful he can take another step forward from the 2013-14 season, but I don't think it will be a big step and at that point, it will probably be about as good as it's going to get.
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Q12543 wrote:The year before last, his 3rd season in the league when he played all 82 games, he ended up with a 49 TS%, which was a career high for him, as he gradually increased his efficiency in each of his first three seasons. Then last year it took a major hit.

I'm not very confident that he can get it much higher than something in the 49-51% range. I realize it's at 53% right now, but that first game against the Lakers is still largely influencing the metric.

I honestly don't see much different about his shot. Just like any other player, getting more experience and feeling healthy will help, so I'm hopeful he can take another step forward from the 2013-14 season, but I don't think it will be a big step and at that point, it will probably be about as good as it's going to get.


The only thing I notice that is different about his shot is that his form is more consistent. It is still unorthodox form but he is doing the same motion every time, whereas before there would be a hitch here and there because he seemed to rush it.
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thedoper wrote:
Q12543 wrote:The year before last, his 3rd season in the league when he played all 82 games, he ended up with a 49 TS%, which was a career high for him, as he gradually increased his efficiency in each of his first three seasons. Then last year it took a major hit.

I'm not very confident that he can get it much higher than something in the 49-51% range. I realize it's at 53% right now, but that first game against the Lakers is still largely influencing the metric.

I honestly don't see much different about his shot. Just like any other player, getting more experience and feeling healthy will help, so I'm hopeful he can take another step forward from the 2013-14 season, but I don't think it will be a big step and at that point, it will probably be about as good as it's going to get.


The only thing I notice that is different about his shot is that his form is more consistent. It is still unorthodox form but he is doing the same motion every time, whereas before there would be a hitch here and there because he seemed to rush it.


Yeah that's what i am seeing also. The other thing is he is taking shots when you are supposed to take shots at a much higher rate than he used when he would just keep looking to pass. He still passed up a couple shots at the tim in the last game but one led to and open 3 pointer and another one I don't remember what happened.

Just to clarify my position (maybe at least to Q) is that Rubio looks to have improved to be some sort of worthwhile increase as a scorer/shooter to be better than he was. How much better measurably will he be? Idk Will he keep it up? Idk I do see some hope but it's 5 games. He has been #2 in level of pleasant surprise factor behind only Towns.
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Can we give Ricky a break if he is shooting a higher percentage than his opponent? Ricky is currently shooting 39.2% and his defensive field goal percentage is 32.8%. That is tied for best in the league. I think that number solidifies him as a top 10 point guard.
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Phenom's_Revenge wrote:Can we give Ricky a break if he is shooting a higher percentage than his opponent? Ricky is currently shooting 39.2% and his defensive field goal percentage is 32.8%. That is tied for best in the league. I think that number solidifies him as a top 10 point guard.


Nice stat. Think this would be great to update as the year progresses.
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Phenom's_Revenge wrote:Can we give Ricky a break if he is shooting a higher percentage than his opponent? Ricky is currently shooting 39.2% and his defensive field goal percentage is 32.8%. That is tied for best in the league. I think that number solidifies him as a top 10 point guard.


Where does that stat come from? I mean Lillard went off for 34 on 14-25 shooting, so where does that fit in?
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alexftbl8181 wrote:
Phenom's_Revenge wrote:Can we give Ricky a break if he is shooting a higher percentage than his opponent? Ricky is currently shooting 39.2% and his defensive field goal percentage is 32.8%. That is tied for best in the league. I think that number solidifies him as a top 10 point guard.


Where does that stat come from? I mean Lillard went off for 34 on 14-25 shooting, so where does that fit in?


The source is the Miami Herald's Manny Navarro. I did misread it though. He is tied for 3rd in the L, not 1st. Still if we are going to asterisk Ricky's numbers because of one great game in L.A. we should treat a Lillard explosion as that. One game. Plus Ricky did not necessarily defend all of his 14 makes.
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