Potential PG Trade Targets

[Q-is-here]

Jevon Carter is a free agent. He'll most certainly decline his player option which is a little above $2 million. He'd be my top target after Shake Milton.

I’ve always kinda liked Carter and thought he was a bit undervalued but he is a guy I would sign if I had my starting PG situation set and I needed a good backup. He would be a nice addition but he is unlikely to help in the search for the the guy next to Edwards long term. That might be ok. Idk how much Carter is gonna get but if it’s too much I might be inclined to sign a guy cheap possibly hoping to find the next Jevon Carter.

Yeah, Carter would be a great backup. He's a 3&D point guard sort of in the Alex Caruso mold. If we really wanted to lean into our defense next year, having Carter, NAW, and Kyle Anderson come off the bench would be pretty impressive to go along with a starting lineup that features Rudy and Jaden. That's starting to look like a top 5 defense.

[KG4Ever]

Jevon Carter is a free agent. He'll most certainly decline his player option which is a little above $2 million. He'd be my top target after Shake Milton.

I’ve always kinda liked Carter and thought he was a bit undervalued but he is a guy I would sign if I had my starting PG situation set and I needed a good backup. He would be a nice addition but he is unlikely to help in the search for the the guy next to Edwards long term. That might be ok. Idk how much Carter is gonna get but if it’s too much I might be inclined to sign a guy cheap possibly hoping to find the next Jevon Carter.

Jevon Carter looked real good when he had spot starts. Same could have been said with Shake Milton and Tyus Jones. JC plays hard on both sides of the ball. I think we would be able to sign either Milton or Carter. The big sell would be the opportunity to get more playing time and potentially start here down the line. For a developmental point guard who we could sign for the minimum, I'd sign Kennedy Chandler.

[Monster]

Jevon Carter is a free agent. He'll most certainly decline his player option which is a little above $2 million. He'd be my top target after Shake Milton.

I’ve always kinda liked Carter and thought he was a bit undervalued but he is a guy I would sign if I had my starting PG situation set and I needed a good backup. He would be a nice addition but he is unlikely to help in the search for the the guy next to Edwards long term. That might be ok. Idk how much Carter is gonna get but if it’s too much I might be inclined to sign a guy cheap possibly hoping to find the next Jevon Carter.

Jevon Carter looked real good when he had spot starts. Same could have been said with Shake Milton and Tyus Jones. JC plays hard on both sides of the ball. I think we would be able to sign either Milton or Carter. The big sell would be the opportunity to get more playing time and potentially start here down the line. For a developmental point guard who we could sign for the minimum, I'd sign Kennedy Chandler.

Is Carter an actual PG or more of an undersized SG that plays as a PG? How is his PG ability compared to say Beverly?

As you have basically pointed out signing a guy like Carter doesn’t mean we can’t sign a guy like Kennedy Chandler but the Wolves may not have many roster spots. Signing Chandler or someone like him to a 2-way deal might be a way to get that type of guy while keeping open regular roster spots.

The Wolves need more options but I COULD see NAW becoming a pretty valuable backup PG option in the Carter/Bruce Brown Mold. He has a ways to go as a player and he needs to actually be resigned so that path is pretty far from certain.

[Lipoli390]

Milton and Carter would be decent additions as back-up PGs. If I had to choose between them, I’d choose Carter. He’s more of a PG and a better defender although they’re both good defensively. The most important thing is that both are good three-point shooters and that’s what this team needs more of off the bench.

But I wouldn’t bother pursuing either one unless we don’t sign NAW. If we’re in the market for a PG, we should focus exclusively on finding a young, long-term successor to Conley - someone who can back him up next season and eventually replace him thereafter. Meanwhile, I don’t think a backup PG should be a priority. Slo Mo and NAW can both function well in the PG role for limited minutes. Slo Mo can actually fill that role entirely. If we’re going to bring in a veteran backup PG next season, I’d pursue Pat Bev as someone who can really impact the team culture by adding toughness, smarts and energy.

As for finding a long-term successor to Conley, this is where it’s time for TC to step up and prove that he was worth the seemingly desperate effort to hire him away from Denver. There are a number of talented undrafted G-League PGs like Mac McClung, along with a number of talented PG prospects in this year’s draft who will be available in the 2nd round or ultimately go undrafted (Jazian Gortman, Marcus Sasser, and Reece Beekman). There are some really talented PG prospects who will likely be taken in the first round (Scoot Henderson, Anthony Black, Amen Thompson, Cason Wallace, and Jalen Hood-Schifino).

Meanwhile, the Orlando Magic have a surplus of young PGs in Markelle Fultz, Cole Anthony, and Jalen Suggs. Portland reportedly wants to acquire needle-moving vets to make a run next season with Lillard. The Blazers had the 4th-worst defense in the League last season and tried to trade Nurkic last February. They have picks 3, 23 and 43 in this year’s draft. One would think they’d be open to trading ##23 and 43 along with Nurkic and some future picks for Rudy Gobert and the Wolves #53. Portland could then use the #3 pick to acquire someone like Jaylen Brown. Orlando has picks 6, 11 and 36, but they finished strong and appear ready to try and take a big jump in the East next season. They certainly don’t need all three of those picks. Rudy Gobert might be an attractive trade target for the Magic. Rudy strikes me as a great fit alongside the mobile and offense-oriented Banchero. Perhaps they’d be open to swapping Cole Anthony or Jalen Suggs and #11 or 36 and future picks for Rudy.

Signing Carter or Shake wouldn’t be bad, but this team should prioritize bigger moves tailored to the team’s longer-term horizon with Ant and Jaden.

[KG4Ever]

Lip, we agree on same goal but I think we have different opinions on the players. I don't view Milton and Carter as merely backups only, but potential long term starters in a year or two (or sooner, in case of injury). I think Shake Milton has the potential to take over for Conley and fit in well. Philly had Harden and Maxey, so Milton did not get regular minutes, but when he did, he shined. I think he's absolutely worth signing to give him that opportunity to make a mark here. If we are unable to sign him, my next choice would be Jevon Carter. I am more confident in Milton being a starting point guard than I am of Jevon Carter, but both could be starters, especially when you have Edwards, KAT and SLomo in the rotation who are good passers. I think it's a low risk opportunity if we can sign them on a cheap and/or short team deal. I'd also like to sign Kennedy Chandler to try to develop him. He was once considered the best point guard among last year's draft class but fell because of his size concerns and shooting concerns. I was impressed by his athleticism, passing ability, defensive tenacity and quick hands. He shot 38% from outside in college so there is hope he can develop an NBA outside shot. I think he's worth a roster spot.

As to your other comments. I absolutely want to resign NAW and I'd add Milton or Carter to replace the minutes that Nowell and/or JMac had. I however would stay away from Pat Bev.

The rotational players I'd like would be:

PG Conley/Milton or Carter
SG Edwards/NAW
SF Jaden/SloMo
PF KAT/Prince
C Rudy/Reid

Developmental: Minott, Chandler, Moore, Garza and 2023 second rounder (perhaps Oscar Tshiebwe)

[KG4Ever]

Lip, we agree on same goal but I think we have different opinions on the players. I don't view Milton and Carter as merely backups only, but potential long term starters in a year or two (or sooner, in case of injury). I think Shake Milton has the potential to take over for Conley and fit in well. Philly had Harden and Maxey, so Milton did not get regular minutes, but when he did, he shined. I think he's absolutely worth signing to give him that opportunity to make a mark here. If we are unable to sign him, my next choice would be Jevon Carter. I am more confident in Milton being a starting point guard than I am of Jevon Carter, but both could be starters, especially when you have Edwards, KAT and SLomo in the rotation who are good passers. I think it's a low risk opportunity if we can sign them on a cheap and/or short team deal. I'd also like to sign Kennedy Chandler to try to develop him. He was once considered the best point guard among last year's draft class but fell because of his size concerns and shooting concerns. I was impressed by his athleticism, passing ability, defensive tenacity and quick hands. He shot 38% from outside in college so there is hope he can develop an NBA outside shot. I think he's worth a roster spot.

As to your other comments. I absolutely want to resign NAW and I'd add Milton or Carter to replace the minutes that Nowell and/or JMac had. I however would stay away from Pat Bev.

The rotational players I'd like would be:

PG Conley/Milton or Carter
SG Edwards/NAW
SF Jaden/SloMo
PF KAT/Prince
C Rudy/Reid

Developmental: Minott, Chandler, Moore, Garza and 2023 second rounder (perhaps Oscar Tshiebwe)
Depth: JMac, Knight
Gone: Rivers, Nowell and Matt Ryan

[worldK]

Milton and Carter would be decent additions as back-up PGs. If I had to choose between them, I’d choose Carter. He’s more of a PG and a better defender although they’re both good defensively. The most important thing is that both are good three-point shooters and that’s what this team needs more of off the bench.

But I wouldn’t bother pursuing either one unless we don’t sign NAW. If we’re in the market for a PG, we should focus exclusively on finding a young, long-term successor to Conley - someone who can back him up next season and eventually replace him thereafter. Meanwhile, I don’t think a backup PG should be a priority. Slo Mo and NAW can both function well in the PG role for limited minutes. Slo Mo can actually fill that role entirely. If we’re going to bring in a veteran backup PG next season, I’d pursue Pat Bev as someone who can really impact the team culture by adding toughness, smarts and energy.

As for finding a long-term successor to Conley, this is where it’s time for TC to step up and prove that he was worth the seemingly desperate effort to hire him away from Denver. There are a number of talented undrafted G-League PGs like Mac McClung, along with a number of talented PG prospects in this year’s draft who will be available in the 2nd round or ultimately go undrafted (Jazian Gortman, Marcus Sasser, and Reece Beekman). There are some really talented PG prospects who will likely be taken in the first round (Scoot Henderson, Anthony Black, Amen Thompson, Cason Wallace, and Jalen Hood-Schifino).

Meanwhile, the Orlando Magic have a surplus of young PGs in Markelle Fultz, Cole Anthony, and Jalen Suggs. Portland reportedly wants to acquire needle-moving vets to make a run next season with Lillard. The Blazers had the 4th-worst defense in the League last season and tried to trade Nurkic last February. They have picks 3, 23 and 43 in this year’s draft. One would think they’d be open to trading ##23 and 43 along with Nurkic and some future picks for Rudy Gobert and the Wolves #53. Portland could then use the #3 pick to acquire someone like Jaylen Brown. Orlando has picks 6, 11 and 36, but they finished strong and appear ready to try and take a big jump in the East next season. They certainly don’t need all three of those picks. Rudy Gobert might be an attractive trade target for the Magic. Rudy strikes me as a great fit alongside the mobile and offense-oriented Banchero. Perhaps they’d be open to swapping Cole Anthony or Jalen Suggs and #11 or 36 and future picks for Rudy.

Signing Carter or Shake wouldn’t be bad, but this team should prioritize bigger moves tailored to the team’s longer-term horizon with Ant and Jaden.

Lip, I would love it if we can get either cole anthony or jalen saggs AND Wendell Carter Jr from the Magic for Rudy. I dont think the Magic would do it though. They can compete for a playoff spot now with roater they have and Carter Jr is going to be a better player than Rudy in a couple of years.

[Lipoli390]

Milton and Carter would be decent additions as back-up PGs. If I had to choose between them, I’d choose Carter. He’s more of a PG and a better defender although they’re both good defensively. The most important thing is that both are good three-point shooters and that’s what this team needs more of off the bench.

But I wouldn’t bother pursuing either one unless we don’t sign NAW. If we’re in the market for a PG, we should focus exclusively on finding a young, long-term successor to Conley - someone who can back him up next season and eventually replace him thereafter. Meanwhile, I don’t think a backup PG should be a priority. Slo Mo and NAW can both function well in the PG role for limited minutes. Slo Mo can actually fill that role entirely. If we’re going to bring in a veteran backup PG next season, I’d pursue Pat Bev as someone who can really impact the team culture by adding toughness, smarts and energy.

As for finding a long-term successor to Conley, this is where it’s time for TC to step up and prove that he was worth the seemingly desperate effort to hire him away from Denver. There are a number of talented undrafted G-League PGs like Mac McClung, along with a number of talented PG prospects in this year’s draft who will be available in the 2nd round or ultimately go undrafted (Jazian Gortman, Marcus Sasser, and Reece Beekman). There are some really talented PG prospects who will likely be taken in the first round (Scoot Henderson, Anthony Black, Amen Thompson, Cason Wallace, and Jalen Hood-Schifino).

Meanwhile, the Orlando Magic have a surplus of young PGs in Markelle Fultz, Cole Anthony, and Jalen Suggs. Portland reportedly wants to acquire needle-moving vets to make a run next season with Lillard. The Blazers had the 4th-worst defense in the League last season and tried to trade Nurkic last February. They have picks 3, 23 and 43 in this year’s draft. One would think they’d be open to trading ##23 and 43 along with Nurkic and some future picks for Rudy Gobert and the Wolves #53. Portland could then use the #3 pick to acquire someone like Jaylen Brown. Orlando has picks 6, 11 and 36, but they finished strong and appear ready to try and take a big jump in the East next season. They certainly don’t need all three of those picks. Rudy Gobert might be an attractive trade target for the Magic. Rudy strikes me as a great fit alongside the mobile and offense-oriented Banchero. Perhaps they’d be open to swapping Cole Anthony or Jalen Suggs and #11 or 36 and future picks for Rudy.

Signing Carter or Shake wouldn’t be bad, but this team should prioritize bigger moves tailored to the team’s longer-term horizon with Ant and Jaden.

Lip, I would love it if we can get either cole anthony or jalen saggs AND Wendell Carter Jr from the Magic for Rudy. I dont think the Magic would do it though. They can compete for a playoff spot now with roater they have and Carter Jr is going to be a better player than Rudy in a couple of years.

WK - I agree it’s unlikely the Magic would include Wendell Carter in a deal for Rudy. That’s why I didn’t mention Carter. In fact, I think Carter is already better than Rudy. I believe the Magic have room under the cap to absorb salary. So I don’t think their outgoing salaries would have to be within the 125% margin, which means they wouldn’t have to include Carter in the deal. The problem, of course, is that they’d have two centers in Carter and Gobert and I suspect the Magic front office, unlike another front office we know, is smart enough to know that doesn’t make sense. Acquiring Gobert would allow the Magic to deal Carter. But they odds of that are probably pretty slim. That’s a long way of saying you’re right.

[Lipoli390]

Lip, we agree on same goal but I think we have different opinions on the players. I don't view Milton and Carter as merely backups only, but potential long term starters in a year or two (or sooner, in case of injury). I think Shake Milton has the potential to take over for Conley and fit in well. Philly had Harden and Maxey, so Milton did not get regular minutes, but when he did, he shined. I think he's absolutely worth signing to give him that opportunity to make a mark here. If we are unable to sign him, my next choice would be Jevon Carter. I am more confident in Milton being a starting point guard than I am of Jevon Carter, but both could be starters, especially when you have Edwards, KAT and SLomo in the rotation who are good passers. I think it's a low risk opportunity if we can sign them on a cheap and/or short team deal. I'd also like to sign Kennedy Chandler to try to develop him. He was once considered the best point guard among last year's draft class but fell because of his size concerns and shooting concerns. I was impressed by his athleticism, passing ability, defensive tenacity and quick hands. He shot 38% from outside in college so there is hope he can develop an NBA outside shot. I think he's worth a roster spot.

As to your other comments. I absolutely want to resign NAW and I'd add Milton or Carter to replace the minutes that Nowell and/or JMac had. I however would stay away from Pat Bev.

The rotational players I'd like would be:

PG Conley/Milton or Carter
SG Edwards/NAW
SF Jaden/SloMo
PF KAT/Prince
C Rudy/Reid

Developmental: Minott, Chandler, Moore, Garza and 2023 second rounder (perhaps Oscar Tshiebwe)

KG4 - I’m tracking your thinking. With Edwards as our SG, we don’t need a great PG. Therefore, I can see how you might view Carter and Shake as potential successors to Conley as our starting PG. I just don’t have quite as high an opinion of either one. They’ve both been in the League five seasons as perennial backups at 15-20 minutes per game. Carter will be 28 years old when the season starts and Shake will be 27. Neither one is a particularly good distributor - although Shake is slightly better. Carter had 2.4 assists last season, which translates to 3.8 assists on a 35-minute basis. Shake averaged 3.2 assists last season, which translates to 5.4 on a 35-minute basis. That’s pretty solid, but I’m not sure about Shake’s defense. He only averaged 0.3 steals last season, which would translate to 0.5 on a 35-minute basis. There’s a reason neither one in five season has been more than a backup.

I’d rather see the Wolves use their limited space under the luxury tax threshold on a younger PG talent with upside. I like your idea of signing Kennedy Chandler. I’m still surprised the Grizzlies let him go and that makes me wonder if there’s a problem with him we’re not aware of. But if there aren’t any red flags hidden from public view, then signing him could be a really good move.

With all that said, I’ll concede that the roster would be stronger with Carter or Shake rather than JMac as the team’s #2 backup. They’re both solid and they are both good three-point shooters.

[Monster]

Milton and Carter would be decent additions as back-up PGs. If I had to choose between them, I’d choose Carter. He’s more of a PG and a better defender although they’re both good defensively. The most important thing is that both are good three-point shooters and that’s what this team needs more of off the bench.

But I wouldn’t bother pursuing either one unless we don’t sign NAW. If we’re in the market for a PG, we should focus exclusively on finding a young, long-term successor to Conley - someone who can back him up next season and eventually replace him thereafter. Meanwhile, I don’t think a backup PG should be a priority. Slo Mo and NAW can both function well in the PG role for limited minutes. Slo Mo can actually fill that role entirely. If we’re going to bring in a veteran backup PG next season, I’d pursue Pat Bev as someone who can really impact the team culture by adding toughness, smarts and energy.

As for finding a long-term successor to Conley, this is where it’s time for TC to step up and prove that he was worth the seemingly desperate effort to hire him away from Denver. There are a number of talented undrafted G-League PGs like Mac McClung, along with a number of talented PG prospects in this year’s draft who will be available in the 2nd round or ultimately go undrafted (Jazian Gortman, Marcus Sasser, and Reece Beekman). There are some really talented PG prospects who will likely be taken in the first round (Scoot Henderson, Anthony Black, Amen Thompson, Cason Wallace, and Jalen Hood-Schifino).

Meanwhile, the Orlando Magic have a surplus of young PGs in Markelle Fultz, Cole Anthony, and Jalen Suggs. Portland reportedly wants to acquire needle-moving vets to make a run next season with Lillard. The Blazers had the 4th-worst defense in the League last season and tried to trade Nurkic last February. They have picks 3, 23 and 43 in this year’s draft. One would think they’d be open to trading ##23 and 43 along with Nurkic and some future picks for Rudy Gobert and the Wolves #53. Portland could then use the #3 pick to acquire someone like Jaylen Brown. Orlando has picks 6, 11 and 36, but they finished strong and appear ready to try and take a big jump in the East next season. They certainly don’t need all three of those picks. Rudy Gobert might be an attractive trade target for the Magic. Rudy strikes me as a great fit alongside the mobile and offense-oriented Banchero. Perhaps they’d be open to swapping Cole Anthony or Jalen Suggs and #11 or 36 and future picks for Rudy.

Signing Carter or Shake wouldn’t be bad, but this team should prioritize bigger moves tailored to the team’s longer-term horizon with Ant and Jaden.

Lip, I would love it if we can get either cole anthony or jalen saggs AND Wendell Carter Jr from the Magic for Rudy. I dont think the Magic would do it though. They can compete for a playoff spot now with roater they have and Carter Jr is going to be a better player than Rudy in a couple of years.

WK - I agree it’s unlikely the Magic would include Wendell Carter in a deal for Rudy. That’s why I didn’t mention Carter. In fact, I think Carter is already better than Rudy. I believe the Magic have room under the cap to absorb salary. So I don’t think their outgoing salaries would have to be within the 125% margin, which means they wouldn’t have to include Carter in the deal. The problem, of course, is that they’d have two centers in Carter and Gobert and I suspect the Magic front office, unlike another front office we know, is smart enough to know that doesn’t make sense. Acquiring Gobert would allow the Magic to deal Carter. But they odds of that are probably pretty slim. That’s a long way of saying you’re right.

I don’t know what Shake’s defense is like but if he can play PG he would be a larger player there. He is 6’4.5” barefoot with over a 7’ wingspan. I like Shake and he fits the big guard prototype the Wolves seem to have gone after.

Speaking of that the Wolves need to get something out of Wendell Moore Jr. I’m watching Braun making some plays as a rookie for Denver deep in the playoffs and thinking it would have been nice to have Moore contribute more. To be fair I think not only was Moore maybe not ready I think the Wolves had other player’s in front of him like McLaughlin Nowell and even Rivers that they decided they wanted to give opportunities to instead. If Moore can be even competent next year that would help the Wolves because like NAW he could give them depth at multiple positions.

Orlando has no need for Gobert. They have the perfect setup with WCJ as their center and he is dirt cheap for being pretty good. In addition that roster when healthy was actually pretty good. They probably bring back Wagner cheap and also have Bitadze. They honestly have plenty of big guys. If somehow Isaac could stay healthy… They are a team that can add to their roster pretty easily a few different ways including moving one of their excess PGs but they really don’t have to do anything (even if Isaac can’t play at all) to be an over .500 team next season.