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PorkChop wrote:

KG4Ever wrote:

PorkChop wrote:Marcus Smart would come here and leave the same way Butler did. He plays a certain way and when he looks around and sees his teammates not giving the same effort he sees himself giving he'll want out.
He's a good player but not sure about the fit and definitely not the main piece in a trade for the first pick.

Wait, weren't you a big Ricky Rubio basher! MarcusSmart's shooting numbers are worse in every category and you call him a "good player."

I never said Rubio wasn't a decent player. Only that his shortcomings were really affecting this team. I mean was I wrong about the guy? He's gonna have a career where he probably plays on 6-8 teams by the time it's over. So no I don't think Rubio's shortcomings affected the team any more than the guys he played with like Wiggs, Lavine, Bazz, etc.

Smart has some intangibles that I really like. He's tough and plays hard nose defense and from what I've seen can create a lil bit going to the basket. Of course I like him more in a sixth man role. I don't think he'd put up with Towns and D R lack of interest in Defense tho.

KG4Ever wrote:

PorkChop wrote:

KG4Ever wrote:

PorkChop wrote:Marcus Smart would come here and leave the same way Butler did. He plays a certain way and when he looks around and sees his teammates not giving the same effort he sees himself giving he'll want out.
He's a good player but not sure about the fit and definitely not the main piece in a trade for the first pick.

Wait, weren't you a big Ricky Rubio basher! MarcusSmart's shooting numbers are worse in every category and you call him a "good player."

I never said Rubio wasn't a decent player. Only that his shortcomings were really affecting this team. I mean was I wrong about the guy? He's gonna have a career where he probably plays on 6-8 teams by the time it's over. So no I don't think Rubio's shortcomings affected the team any more than the guys he played with like Wiggs, Lavine, Bazz, etc.

Smart has some intangibles that I really like. He's tough and plays hard nose defense and from what I've seen can create a lil bit going to the basket. Of course I like him more in a sixth man role. I don't think he'd put up with Towns and D R lack of interest in Defense tho.

6-8 teams? Pure conjecture on your part. Meanwhile, DLO at a younger age is on his fourth team while Ricky is on his third, so DLO must be a scrub then. Shortcomings? Only if you focus purely on his shooting. But his playmaking elevated the offense and he was a pretty good defender, didn't turn the ball over a lot, rebounded well and may have the best plus minus ratings of any Wolf in the post-KG era, with the possible exception of Kevin Love. I don't agree with you that Rubio's shortcoming adversely affected the Wolves any more than the shortcomings of Wiggins, Lavine, Bazz etc.

KG4Ever wrote:

PorkChop wrote:

KG4Ever wrote:

PorkChop wrote:Marcus Smart would come here and leave the same way Butler did. He plays a certain way and when he looks around and sees his teammates not giving the same effort he sees himself giving he'll want out.
He's a good player but not sure about the fit and definitely not the main piece in a trade for the first pick.

Wait, weren't you a big Ricky Rubio basher! MarcusSmart's shooting numbers are worse in every category and you call him a "good player."

I never said Rubio wasn't a decent player. Only that his shortcomings were really affecting this team. I mean was I wrong about the guy? He's gonna have a career where he probably plays on 6-8 teams by the time it's over. So no I don't think Rubio's shortcomings affected the team any more than the guys he played with like Wiggs, Lavine, Bazz, etc.

Smart has some intangibles that I really like. He's tough and plays hard nose defense and from what I've seen can create a lil bit going to the basket. Of course I like him more in a sixth man role. I don't think he'd put up with Towns and D R lack of interest in Defense tho.

6-8 teams? Pure conjecture on your part. Meanwhile, DLO at a younger age is on his fourth team while Ricky is on his third, so DLO must be a scrub then. Shortcomings? Only if you focus purely on his shooting. But his playmaking elevated the offense and he was a pretty good defender, didn't turn the ball over a lot, rebounded well and may have the best plus minus ratings of any Wolf in the post-KG era, with the possible exception of Kevin Love. I don't agree with you that Rubio's shortcoming adversely affected the Wolves any more than the shortcomings of Wiggins, Lavine, Bazz etc.

Q12543 wrote:Ricky continues to do what he has always done - make the team of players he's with play better. He's done this now with Minnesota, Utah, and Phoenix. It's been statistically proven over the course of multiple seasons with multiple teams at this point.

PorkChop wrote:

Q12543 wrote:Ricky continues to do what he has always done - make the team of players he's with play better. He's done this now with Minnesota, Utah, and Phoenix. It's been statistically proven over the course of multiple seasons with multiple teams at this point.

Do you think Phoenix holds onto him for the foreseeable future?

KG4Ever wrote:

PorkChop wrote:

Q12543 wrote:Ricky continues to do what he has always done - make the team of players he's with play better. He's done this now with Minnesota, Utah, and Phoenix. It's been statistically proven over the course of multiple seasons with multiple teams at this point.

Do you think Phoenix holds onto him for the foreseeable future?

I think Phoenix is happy with him, but he did just turn 30 yesterday and he is the oldest starter on the Suns by far, so the Suns are likely to go for a point guard in the draft.

Q12543 wrote:Ricky continues to do what he has always done - make the team of players he's with play better. He's done this now with Minnesota, Utah, and Phoenix. It's been statistically proven over the course of multiple seasons with multiple teams at this point.

Camden0916 wrote:

TheFuture wrote:

rapsuperstar31 wrote:

TheFuture wrote:Hypothetically, Ainge wants to move up to #1 for Wiseman. What other assets would you want from the Celtics along with Smart for #1 and JJ?

Smart doesn't do anything for me. The only player on Boston I want that might be available would be Jaylen Brown. Rumors last off season was that he could be had for the right price. He had a terrific season this year though, so he probably isn't available. I haven't seen what draft picks Boston owns, but they usually own several so I suppose if they throw in enough picks I would look at it.

Brown and Tatum are likely their two untouchables.

What about Smart do you not like for this team?

The better question is what about Smart is worth trading the first overall pick for? Granted, I know you're suggesting a package deal, but he would be the headliner, no? That's just not good enough.

Not to mention, his role on this team is already filled by Josh Okogie and Jarrett Culver, albeit at a lesser level. Too much redundancy.