Minnesota Sports Forum

TRKO wrote:
The NFL doesn't have a lottery and there isn't as much talk of tanking as in basketball. Maybe get rid of the lottery all together.

The biggest thing is that it takes FAR less players in the NBA to greatly affect team performance. 5 on the court vs 11/11 (O/D) on the field. Even a great QB in the NFL going down doesn't cause their team to plummet to the bottom of them standings.

I kinda liked the idea of losing the lottery, but instead using teams' three-year combined record to determine order. That way it solves the fluke year problem a little better.

Camden wrote:I kinda liked the idea of losing the lottery, but instead using teams' three-year combined record to determine order. That way it solves the fluke year problem a little better.

Oh yeah, I recall that idea. That would probably be the best way even if it was just 2 years. Combine that with a system like the NHL's and I think that would be pretty good.

The NBA has a tanking problem because the chance at getting a franchise changing star is so much smaller than any other sport. In the NFL the whole first round and second round is expected to net you a starter level player. That is an expectation in that draft where in the NBA you are pretty much hoping anyone outside the top 10 could become a starter. What's the most stars a single NBA draft has produced? 4-5. The NFL has more than that on a regular basis. I think they should make college basketball like college football and require 3 full years after high school. The fact is that more guys are getting picked higher and paid more because there is more unknown about them that is seen as potential that would be revealed as true weaknesses with more time in college. If the pay scale was more on the level of hockey with cheap rookie deals and bridge contracts then going pro sooner would make sense, but teams are having to invest multiple millions of dollars in guys who don't actually become good until the end of their rookie deals. Also keeping them in school for 3 years would make the college game a closer level of competition to the pros so they would come in more ready at 22 instead of 19.

My guy D'Angelo Russell:
http://youtu.be/k0kYmODtN2A

khans2k5 wrote:The NBA has a tanking problem because the chance at getting a franchise changing star is so much smaller than any other sport. In the NFL the whole first round and second round is expected to net you a starter level player. That is an expectation in that draft where in the NBA you are pretty much hoping anyone outside the top 10 could become a starter. What's the most stars a single NBA draft has produced? 4-5. The NFL has more than that on a regular basis. I think they should make college basketball like college football and require 3 full years after high school. The fact is that more guys are getting picked higher and paid more because there is more unknown about them that is seen as potential that would be revealed as true weaknesses with more time in college. If the pay scale was more on the level of hockey with cheap rookie deals and bridge contracts then going pro sooner would make sense, but teams are having to invest multiple millions of dollars in guys who don't actually become good until the end of their rookie deals. Also keeping them in school for 3 years would make the college game a closer level of competition to the pros so they would come in more ready at 22 instead of 19.

I think requiring even 2 years of college would be a big improvement. I liked seeing the rare player go from High School to the pros, but it became too common and more and more guys were trying it and failing.

This sounds good to me:

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[*] Average the records of 2 or 3 seasons to generate the lottery odds.
[*] Tier the lottery like the NHL allowing teams to only move up or down a couple/few spots.
[*] Require 2 or 3 years of college.
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PS: I guess the Knicks post could have been it's own thread..

TRKO wrote:My guy D'Angelo Russell:
http://youtu.be/k0kYmODtN2A

That highlight video is superb, really got me amped up to watch a whole game from Russell (currently waiting for a game to not be on the Big Ten network) so I can get a better feel for his all around game not just the highlights. But thinking of a Brandon Roy-esque player makes me want to put him in front of Towns & Okafor. Please please please let the Wolves get a top 3 pick, I will be happy with any of those guys

A Friendly Flatulence wrote:

TRKO wrote:My guy D'Angelo Russell:
http://youtu.be/k0kYmODtN2A

That highlight video is superb, really got me amped up to watch a whole game from Russell (currently waiting for a game to not be on the Big Ten network) so I can get a better feel for his all around game not just the highlights. But thinking of a Brandon Roy-esque player makes me want to put him in front of Towns & Okafor. Please please please let the Wolves get a top 3 pick, I will be happy with any of those guys

I think a top 5 pick would work, Okafor, Towns, Mudiay, Russell, and Johnson seem to be 5 very good prospects. Right now Russell is the guy I want first and foremost. I really like his game.

Johnson plays tonight at 9 ET on ESPN against Washington for those that want to check him out.

Another Stanley article. If someone could copy/paste, that'd be swell. http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft2015/story/_/id/12311248/how-stanley-johnson-thrive-nba-nba-draft