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So if the pick is Wiseman then we're looking like the 1999 Spurs.

Duncan=Towns
Robinson=Wiseman
Avery Johnson=Russell
Mario Elie=Beasley

But we'll be lacking a Sean Elliott. Maybe we need Oubre to fill this role via trade.

thedoper wrote:I think Edwards should be the pick. When in doubt take the most athletic wing with a prototypical body. Wiseman's rep for being a poor defender scares me with how little defensive presence inside we've had for the last 5 years. I think Edwards next to DLo with their complimentary skills is as exciting as the potential of Wiseman next to KAT. Get our hustle, good rebounding 4 with the 17 or a trade involving 17.

https://youtu.be/WCqrYEFwgng

https://youtu.be/6OpQ5N0eiBM

https://youtu.be/3ZueY4dRHhw

I hate the Auburn tape. The other two aren't terrible, and I agree his team is garbage. I dont like how he doesnt assert himself driving, instead pulling up deep. It is also obvious that he lacks finesse around the rim.


Admittedly, you can tell in all the videos that the whole opposing team is willing to sell out to stop just him. No doubt the talent is there. I'm just not sold on it.

I prefer Wiseman.

Tolerate the Edwards idea.

Hate the Ball idea.

My ideal picks at 1:

1. Edwards
2. Wiseman
3. Some trade scenario for Vassell, I like many here want nothing to do will Lamelo even though I think he will be an NBA level player.

My Ideal picks at 17:
1. Nesmith
2.Precious Achiuwa - The more I read about this kid and watch him the more I really like him. Didn't start playing ball until 8th grade in Africa. Super energy guy. He's 6'9" and averaged over 10 boards as a freshman (only freshman to do so). He seems like he could be that lanky super athlete type that I think would be a perfect match to KAT. Could easily see this kid becoming a Pascal Siakim type. Although it sounds like he's raw and could go the other way too offensively. But if he's just someone to come in at the 4 and play tough D and grab boards I'm sold on that alone because that is essentially what we need.

The pull-up, contested jumpers by Edwards are just a killer for me with him unless they can drill it out of him. For someone with his strength, he should have been making a living at the free throw line. He is a shorter version of Wiggins to me, i.e. someone capable of occasionally putting up some big scoring numbers, but otherwise doesn't do much to help your team win and more often inefficient than not. Yuck!

I guess the question with using that #17 pick for a 4 like Precious is whether we already have that kind of player with Vanderbilt. If anything, Vanderbilt is more "Siakim-like" than Precious since he has some handles and passing skills (although he can be really careless too) to go along with his rebounding and defensive potential.

Assuming we keep the other pick, I'd go for a PG to push J-Mac for that 2nd spot behind DLO or I'd go for a 6"6+ wing like Saddiq Bey, Aaron Nesmith, or Josh Green.

Q12543 wrote:I guess the question with using that #17 pick for a 4 like Precious is whether we already have that kind of player with Vanderbilt. If anything, Vanderbilt is more "Siakim-like" than Precious since he has some handles and passing skills (although he can be really careless too) to go along with his rebounding and defensive potential.

Assuming we keep the other pick, I'd go for a PG to push J-Mac for that 2nd spot behind DLO or I'd go for a 6"6+ wing like Saddiq Bey, Aaron Nesmith, or Josh Green.

I wouldn't make any draft decisions based on Vanderbilt or any of the young talent we have really. Fine to not like Precious's potential but I personally wouldn't exclude anyone for a player who couldn't see the floor in a position where there was clearly a gap. I have no problem with this team loading up on 6'8" high energy guys and seeing if we can get anything out of them. I can't see how one of them shouldn't be able to beat how the scrap heap we have at the 4 right now.

Q12543 wrote:The pull-up, contested jumpers by Edwards are just a killer for me with him unless they can drill it out of him. For someone with his strength, he should have been making a living at the free throw line. He is a shorter version of Wiggins to me, i.e. someone capable of occasionally putting up some big scoring numbers, but otherwise doesn't do much to help your team win and more often inefficient than not. Yuck!

I'm thinking more of a Tyreke Evans? One thing Wiggins has done well is finish at the rim on average even though he gets stripped etc. But yeah he doesn't go there enough so I get the parallel. I believe I read Edwards is below average FG even when he does get to the rim. That's a bit of a problem.

Q12543 wrote:The pull-up, contested jumpers by Edwards are just a killer for me with him unless they can drill it out of him. For someone with his strength, he should have been making a living at the free throw line. He is a shorter version of Wiggins to me, i.e. someone capable of occasionally putting up some big scoring numbers, but otherwise doesn't do much to help your team win and more often inefficient than not. Yuck!

He's Wiggins but he passes and dribbles. Wiggins never had an appropriate position based on his skillset (or lack thereof). Edwards is a prototypical 2 from his body type and athletic profile. Suspect shot selection and spotty defense seems to be comparables. But I personally need to judge each player independently. I don't think they're the same player in any way. Edwards has a lot more dog in him from what I see.

Recent reports suggest that the Hornets and Bulls are interested in trading up. Apparently, Charlotte is interested in trading up for Wiseman and Chicago is interested in trading up for Ball. I think there are other potential trade-swap scenarios as well.

My favorite move would our #1 pick + Jacob Evans & Spellman for the #3 pick and Miles Bridges. Then I'd use the #3 pick to draft Okongwu, although I think Rosas would use that pick to take Toppin. Interestingly, a swap with the Hornets would leave one of the top three available for the Wolves to pick. I'm assuming Charlotte would take Wiseman and the Warriors would take Edwards. I wouldn't be interested in Ball, but perhaps the Wolves could take and trade him for another valuable asset and still end up with Okongwu or Toppin.

I'm really not interested in anyone on the Bulls roster other than Zach LaVine and I doubt they'd include him in a pick swap with the Wolves.

I don't see anyone on the Cavs' roster I'd want who would be gettable in a trade swap involving their #5 pick.

Recent reports suggest that Atlanta is looking to trade out or down from #6 for an established vet, so it would appear they're not a likely trade-swap partner for the Wolves. That means no Kevin Huerter or John Collins.

I could see Detroit swapping their #7 pick for the top pick pick to land one of the top three. I would see Luke Kennard as the best target for the Wolves in that swap. But I think Okongwu and Toppin will both be off the board by then, so I'm not sure Rosas or I would do the deal.

I continue to believe the Knicks really covet Ball and will give up a lot in a pick swap with Minnesota to get him. At a minimum, I think they'd give give up their #8 and #27 pick this year along with the Mavs' 2021 first round pick. I'd insist on getting the Knicks own first round pick with no more than top 3 protection instead of the Mavs' pick. That would be a very fair price for moving up 7 spots to get a player they covet with the top pick in the draft. The Mavs gave up a future top 5 protected pick to move up just two spots to get Doncic and the Sixers gave up an unprotected first rounder to move up two spots for Fultz at #1. I'm not sure I'd do that deal if I were Rosas because I'm sure Okongwu would be off the board by then. But getting the Knicks' 2021 first with no more than top-3 protection would be a valuable asset to get and the Wolves could still probably get Vassell, Haliburton or Patrick Williams at #8. Moreover, the Wolves could potentially packag #17 and 27 (maybe also 33) to move up to get a player they like.

Tom Crean interview on Edwards. No surprise that he loves the kid.

https://www.si.com/.amp/nba/2020/10/27/anthony-edwards-nba-draft-tom-crean