CoolBreeze44 wrote:lipoli390 wrote:CoolBreeze44 wrote:Just saw that Ben Simmons finished 4th in defensive player of the year voting.
That's great news for the Sixers. :). I've moved on from pinning any hope to a trade for Ben Simmons or any other worthwhile young two-way star. I don't see any realistic scenarios. So for me, it's boiling down to a choice of 3 players at #1 - Wiseman, Okongwu or Edwards. Otherwise, I'd want to see the Wolves trade down into the 4-8 range and draft Vassell, Deni or Toppin.
Yeah, I can't imagine a new coach coming in and being told he's not going to have Simmons to work with. But no one on that team is untradeable, it's just that the price may not be realistic.
Exactly, Cool. I can't conceive of a realistic deal in which the Wolves swap their top pick in a package for Simmons.
Perhaps the Sixers would trade Simmons and their #21 pick for the Wolves #1 and Russell. But we know the Wolves wouldn't do that. KAT and Russell are tight and Rosas appears to have a man crush on Russell, perhaps in part because of the KAT/DLO friendship. I just don't see them trading Simmons for our top pick and any combination of other players on our roster. If they're interested in future draft picks, the Wolves can't trade another first round pick until at least 2023. If the Sixers are really open to blowing it up by trading Simmons for future picks, the Warriors are a much better trade partner. Golden State can not only make all their own future 1st round picks available, they also have the Wolves first and second round picks next year.
Rosas will have to earn his stripes. He appears to have botched last year's draft, although I haven't given up all hope for Culver. I like him as a person and saw some flashes from him. But Rosas now has the top pick in this year's draft along with the 17th pick and the 3rd pick in the second round. While this draft doesn't have a sure star at the top, it has plenty of talent and Rosas is in the driver's seat with the top pick and two other really good draft opportunities. I like his undrafted FA signings and really liked the Beasley deal if Beasley re-signs for a reasonable amount. I'm not a fan of the Russell deal, but I'm not down on it either. It's now time for Rosas to shows his metal in the draft. As we know, it is exceedingly rare for a mid to small market NBA team to become a contender without drafting at least a couple future all-stars (or key players), typically with picks that aren't in the top 2 or even the top 5. Here are some examples:
CURRENT EXAMPLES
Miami Heat: Herro - at #13. Bam - at #14. Nunn - undrafted & signed by Miami out of G-League
Celtics: Tatum - at #3. Brown - at #3. Marcus Smart - at #6
Utah: Gobert - at #27. Mitchell - at #13. Joe Engles - undrafted FA signing
Denver: Jamal Murray - at #7. Jokic - at #41. M. Porter Jr. - at # 14
Raptors: Siakam - at #27. VanVleet - undrafted FA signing. Anunoby - at #23
Blazers: Lillard at #6. McCollum at #10. Nurkic at #16
Sixers: Simmons at #1. Embiid at #3
PAST EXAMPLES
Warriors: Curry at #7. Thompson at #11. Green at #35.
Spurs: Duncan at #1. Parker at #28. Ginobili at #57. Later - Leonard at #15
OKC: Durant at #2. Westbrook at #4. Harden at #3
There are exceptions among smaller or mid-market teams, but not many. The Bucks are one exception, but they have one mega-star, Giannis, who they drafted at #15.
The top teams in the League outside LA and Houston have top-notch from office personnel who make excellent draft decisions more than once. I'm just asking Rosas for one such decision - this year. :)