Cov traded

[Wolvesfan21]

I think this was below avg as far as overall trades go. I was hoping we would get a higher 1st in the end, mid round pick? Meh. Somewhat reeks of desperation to change just to change and not just hang onto Cov till the offseason or predraft and hope for something better. The proof is in the pudding, we'll see what the end results come to be. I'm not thrilled but I suppose we could have done worse.

[Lipoli390]

Well, it could have been worse. First, let's cut to the core. Yes, a lot of players and picks were involved. But for the Wolves it boils down to losing Covington while gaining Beasley and what will probably be the 15th, 16th or 17th pick in next June's draft. I guarantee that none of the other players we acquired will amount to anything and won't be around here long term.

I'd feel better about it if Beasley weren't on an expiring deal as a RFA, but because he is, the Wolves are vulnerable to being held up for a ransom or being hit with an offer they can't reasonably match. Remember, this deal is meaningless for this season since we were going to end up near the bottom with our without this trade. So the whole point of a trade like this is to help the Wolves in the long term. In that sense, the only meaningful long-term asset we know we'll have from this deal is the Nets 16 or 17th pick in next June's draft. I guess you can add additional salary space as a meaningful get for the Wolves, but only to the extent it helps facilitate a trade next June by allowing the Wolves to absorb salary.

So it's really Covington for the 16th pick in the 2020 draft and some additional cap room. I'm not crazy about that deal, but if nothing else this deal should make us worse this season and enhance our lottery chances this year. :) If we keep Beasley on a reasonable deal going forward, then the trade takes on a new and somewhat better hue. Unlike some, I don't see Beasley as purely a 3-point shooter. But even if that's all he is, he definitely fills a desperate need for us. He's definitely not much of a passer, but he's not a bad rebounder and he's a decent (or at least willing) defender. He's not very long with an 6'4.5 overhead reach and 6'7 wingspan, so he's an undersized SG without the skills to play PG. Personally, I think we already have a player in Nowell who will be at least as good as Beasley.

So how would I grade this deal for the Wolves? I'd give Rosas a C-. And I think that's being a bit charitable. I would have rather simply traded Covington for Capela and Houston's first round pick.

[Lipoli390]

My next move would be Wiggins to Charlotte for Batum, their 2020 1st round pick (likely top 6) and the 2020 2nd round picks they have incoming from Atlanta and the Knicks (probably the top 2 picks in the 2nd round). Might have to give top 2 protection on the 1st round pick. This deal would maximize the Wolves lottery chances this year. And it would ensure an impressive arsenal of picks to package with players for a major acquisition next June. As an added bonus, it would shorten the burden of Andrew's contract by 2 years.

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

Well, it could have been worse. First, let's cut to the core. Yes, a lot of players and picks were involved. But for the Wolves it boils down to losing Covington while gaining Beasley and what will probably be the 15th, 16th or 17th pick in next June's draft. I guarantee that none of the other players we acquired will amount to anything and won't be around here long term.

I'd feel better about it if Beasley weren't on an expiring deal as a RFA, but because he is, the Wolves are vulnerable to being held up for a ransom or being hit with an offer they can't reasonably match. Remember, this deal is meaningless for this season since we were going to end up near the bottom with our without this trade. So the whole point of a trade like this is to help the Wolves in the long term. In that sense, the only meaningful long-term asset we know we'll have from this deal is the Nets 16 or 17th pick in next June's draft. I guess you can add additional salary space as a meaningful get for the Wolves, but only to the extent it helps facilitate a trade next June by allowing the Wolves to absorb salary.

So it's really Covington for the 16th pick in the 2020 draft and some additional cap room. I'm not crazy about that deal, but if nothing else this deal should make us worse this season and enhance our lottery chances this year. :) If we keep Beasley on a reasonable deal going forward, then the trade takes on a new and somewhat better hue. Unlike some, I don't see Beasley as purely a 3-point shooter. But even if that's all he is, he definitely fills a desperate need for us. He's definitely not much of a passer, but he's not a bad rebounder and he's a decent (or at least willing) defender. He's not very long with an 6'4.5 overhead reach and 6'7 wingspan, so he's an undersized SG without the skills to play PG. Personally, I think we already have a player in Nowell who will be at least as good as Beasley.

So how would I grade this deal for the Wolves? I'd give Rosas a C-. And I think that's being a bit charitable. I would have rather simply traded Covington for Capela and Houston's first round pick.

I'd give him a C I guess...it's just sort of meh. Does anyone really believe this franchise can take a player from another team and turn him into something better than he's been? I certainly don't.

Our SG position is now over-crowded if you include the G League: Beasley, Culver, Okogie, and Nowell. I guess we'll keep Nowell in the G-League for now, where he continues to have a lot of success. But I'm not sure how Ryan gets minutes to Beasley, Culver, and Okogie unless he slides Culver over to PG. I guess we could go with an all wing/one big type lineup.

All and all, this just feels like further deck chair maneuvering. We say this every year, but this team has got to nail the draft for freakin' once. We have two shots at it in the first round this summer.

[Monster]

Well, it could have been worse. First, let's cut to the core. Yes, a lot of players and picks were involved. But for the Wolves it boils down to losing Covington while gaining Beasley and what will probably be the 15th, 16th or 17th pick in next June's draft. I guarantee that none of the other players we acquired will amount to anything and won't be around here long term.

I'd feel better about it if Beasley weren't on an expiring deal as a RFA, but because he is, the Wolves are vulnerable to being held up for a ransom or being hit with an offer they can't reasonably match. Remember, this deal is meaningless for this season since we were going to end up near the bottom with our without this trade. So the whole point of a trade like this is to help the Wolves in the long term. In that sense, the only meaningful long-term asset we know we'll have from this deal is the Nets 16 or 17th pick in next June's draft. I guess you can add additional salary space as a meaningful get for the Wolves, but only to the extent it helps facilitate a trade next June by allowing the Wolves to absorb salary.

So it's really Covington for the 16th pick in the 2020 draft and some additional cap room. I'm not crazy about that deal, but if nothing else this deal should make us worse this season and enhance our lottery chances this year. :) If we keep Beasley on a reasonable deal going forward, then the trade takes on a new and somewhat better hue. Unlike some, I don't see Beasley as purely a 3-point shooter. But even if that's all he is, he definitely fills a desperate need for us. He's definitely not much of a passer, but he's not a bad rebounder and he's a decent (or at least willing) defender. He's not very long with an 6'4.5 overhead reach and 6'7 wingspan, so he's an undersized SG without the skills to play PG. Personally, I think we already have a player in Nowell who will be at least as good as Beasley.

So how would I grade this deal for the Wolves? I'd give Rosas a C-. And I think that's being a bit charitable. I would have rather simply traded Covington for Capela and Houston's first round pick.

Lip this deal kinda reminds me of when the Grizzlies dealt Marc Gasol last season for Jones V Wright and Miles and 2024 2nd round pick. It didn't seem like a great haul since Jonas could opt out and Wright was a RFA. Well Jones resigned for a pretty reasonable deal and is a youngish sold NBA center putting up an easy double double this year in under 26 minutes, they moved Miles for Howard and saved some money, and they got a couple 2nd tpun picks in a sign and trade for Wright and then turned around and got Tyus Jones while giving up nothing to sign him. Oh and they did all this stuff and...now are a .500 team when many assumed they would be bad this year. Did they kill it in the Gasol deal? No but it's looking pretty solid to me. So...like I said for that deal...let's wait and see.

One thing I like about Beasley is that if the Wolves were to make another trade involving say Wiggins or Culver you have a guy that could actually be slotted in as a starter or at least a pretty significant role which might add to the value of bringing him in and/or keeping him (more likely to resign) I get the idea that Rosas would be willing to let someone walk than overpay them. We saw that play out last summer.

[AbeVigodaLive]

My next move would be Wiggins to Charlotte for Batum, their 2020 1st round pick (likely top 6) and the 2020 2nd round picks they have incoming from Atlanta and the Knicks (probably the top 2 picks in the 2nd round). Might have to give top 2 protection on the 1st round pick. This deal would maximize the Wolves lottery chances this year. And it would ensure an impressive arsenal of picks to package with players for a major acquisition next June. As an added bonus, it would shorten the burden of Andrew's contract by 2 years.

There's no way Charlotte is giving up a top lottery pick for Andrew Wiggins.

Bleacher Report indicated Charlotte is willing to toss in a 2nd rd pick.

[mjs34]

I don't' have a problem with the pick, but why bring in 3 guys that you have to make decisions on. I can only assume they are clearing cap space, but for what? OR they are about to send out two first's and Wig or G, for DLO.

Screams of another PBO who doesn't have a clue as to the dynamics of running a team in Minny. We sent out a guy who had everything we were looking for (defensively, and offensively) for the new SYSTEM, and brought back guys who we will have to overpay to keep next season, and none actually possess the skills to be two way players. So once again we will be spending on role players before filling out a starting lineup.

So we have dumped our two trade-able assets in Roco and Teague, for a first round pick, and will somehow come into the off season with minimal cap space.

[Hicks123 [enjin:6700838]]

Would it make some sense to flip that Nets pick for Aaron Holiday? Solid (but not spectacular) PG that shoots lights out from 3. Pacers are pretty deep at that spot. I would explore.

[AbeVigodaLive]

Would it make some sense to flip that Nets pick for Aaron Holiday? Solid (but not spectacular) PG that shoots lights out from 3. Pacers are pretty deep at that spot. I would explore.

Sure. In fact, Holiday was a player that I thought of when trying to think of players who are more of a sure thing than Beasley.

He's on a cost-controlled contract. He's shown obvious improvement in year 2.

Is the pick good enough? After all, Holiday was taken #23... and seems to be panning out. Why would Indiana cut bait with him while controlling his rights for the less than 50/50 chance they'd find somebody better than him in this year's draft?

[Monster]

FWIW I listened to the Dunc'd On podcast's take on this deal. They actually said all the teams in this deal were solid NBA franchises and did good work in a complicated deal. We were labeled competent!!!!! Lol They liked this deal for the Wolves as they said teams aren't going to have a lot of money this off-season and so they think the Wolves have a good chance of keeping both Beasley and Juancho for value contracts because of their RFA status which they thought was worth trading for. They said that MAYBE a big offer would come for Beasley but they doubted it. Besides if a team overpays isn't that kinda good in a way? That means another team used up money and you might get someone else etc. They thought this was about as good as the Wolves could have reasonably done for Covington.