Potential Draft Deals

[60WinTim]

I have zero interest trading multiple assets to move up in this draft. History tells rookies are hit and miss. No way do I trade Shabazz (or Dieng for that matter) when both have shown they can play in this league and both have so much room to grow given their age and experience.

But I am not worried. Us armchair GMs are always dreaming up stuff that seems logical to us, but would never fly in reality.

[bleedspeed]

WCS lack of rebounding turns me off. If he was a better rebounder I would be on board moving up to get him.

Jordan Mickey at 31 could be a great get. At 6'8" he is short, but has long arms. Can block shots and rebound and defend.

Thumbs up to him.

[TheFuture]

I'm not trading Shabazz for just anybody or an unknown first round pick in the future, no. I value his scoring and hustle just as much as most of you here.

In the context of my post, however, I'd be looking to get Willie Cauley-Stein, who fills a much bigger void for our team than bench scorer. I'd rather have the rim protector with the lateral quickness and smarts to guard 1-5 legitimately.

Trade package including everyone NOT named Wiggins, Rubio, LaVine, No. 1 pick <<< WCS

PG: Rubio
SG: LaVine
SF: Wiggins
PF: Towns
C: Cauley-Stein

That's our hopeful future core right there. Not only is there a very good young player at every position, but you also have an identity. That team in three to five years is a defensive juggernaut, who also could have two good wing scorers and a maestro to make it all work. That's my dream in a nutshell.

That is a good idea cam, if we live in a utopia where everything works out just as you expect. Let me reiterate, I won't trade a known commodity in shabazz, who is young and has already shown a near elite NBA skill, for a possibility in WCS. A young vet big maybe, but not a draft prospect.

[Crazysauce]

If we deal up that high for someone I would want it to be Justice Winslow. I like his build and athleticism. I really think he could end up being the best player in this draft. If we could deal Muhammad and something else to get Winslow I would do it in a heartbeat and I really like Muhammad. I feel however it is unrealistic to expect to be able to trade up that high with what most of us would be willing to give up. I really want Towns but feel we take Okafor and trade back into the first to team him with Tyus Jones again. Getting Towns and Winslow though, that gives me chills.

[MikkeMan]

If Cauley-Stein didn't have passion for the game, he wouldn't have returned for his junior season after watching UK lose in the tourney a year prior. He wouldn't have devoted the time to develop his free throws from 37.2% to 48.2% to 61.7% in his three years at Kentucky.

Passion isn't an issue for that guy, in my opinion. When you play defense as hard and as good as he did, that's not a result of being indifferent to the game. That's because you want to win basketball games.

Also, he averaged 2.1 BPG and 2.9 BPG as a freshman and sophomore, respectively, in roughly 24 MPG. Perhaps the only reason he dipped to 1.7 BPG as a junior was because there was a Karl-Anthony Towns blocking 2.3 shots a game next to him. Or because WCS had a lot more defensive assignments on the perimeter this year that allowed Towns to guard the bigger post player.

Shabazz is a very solid piece here, but even he has some questions in his game. What is easier to produce: scoring or rim protection? I'd argue scoring, and that I value Cauley-Stein's defensive ability over Muhammad's irregular -but-solid scoring ability.

I was thinking almost exactly same way. I think that Kentucky getting Towns has a lot to do with WCS block numbers dropping. I think WCS guarded much more often opponents power forwards and thus he were not playing anymore that often near the basket that will decrease his changes to get blocks.

I also think that because of Towns playing in the post and WCS improving his shooting (visible in FT%), he might have taken more jump shots this season compared to previous seasons, which would explain his FG% dropping little bit.

One thing that is worth to be mentioned is that WCS seems to be extremely coachable. It seems that he will do what he is asked and doesn't care about his minutes, offensive role etc. His kind of players are extremely important since NBA is so full of self centered stars that will force their way out of the team if things are not going as they have planned.

[bleedspeed]

Saw the Lakers trade idea on the other thread. I am sure we could get the 2nd pick we certainly have the parts to do it.

Basically off the table would be #1 pick, Wiggins, and that is it. Lots of options to make it happen. You could start off offering Martin, Rubio, Bjelica, and Dieng and see what they come back with.

[TRKO [enjin:12664595]]

Saw the Lakers trade idea on the other thread. I am sure we could get the 2nd pick we certainly have the parts to do it.

Basically off the table would be #1 pick, Wiggins, and that is it. Lots of options to make it happen. You could start off offering Martin, Rubio, Bjelica, and Dieng and see what they come back with.

I feel the Lakers will want a young star in return. To get the second pick we will have to trade Rubio and LaVine along with other pieces. I would try and make them take Pek in that deal, but long term what do they gain out of the trade. Kobe retires after the year and they just traded for a bunch of guys who haven't realized and may never their potential yet.

Put yourself in their shoes, would you trade the first overall pick for Randle, Clarkson, Young, pick 27 and 34?

[bleedspeed]

TRKO - I agree that is why I would start off with that offer and then hold out LaVine until the end. It would show we are serious and likely start a conversation. I wouldn't want to give up both Shabazz and LaVine if we don't have to. I would prefer to keep LaVine,but if that is what it takes to make it happen I would do it. I am sure Rubio's agent would be willing to help.

[Porckchop]

How about we send KMART back to OKC along with Bennett /31st pick for the 14th. Grab Kaminsky there .

Future starting lineup
Rubio
Lavine
Wiggins
Kaminsky
Towns.
Nice mix of offense and defense there. With Shabbat and Pek giving the second unit some scoring punch

[Coolbreeze44]

I want to see Rubio run this team. We've been waiting so long to see how good he can be. We have him signed for 4 years. He 's a young veteran now. He's probably never going to be a top 3 PG in the league, but he can be a great glue guy. The type of player you win with. I'm not against going after Russell (not going to happen though), but I'd rather have him and Rubio.