Yeah, Moore Jr. was a real disappointment last year in the little time he got. I think what's especially disappointing is that when you draft a 3-year college player from a big-time program like Duke, you expect someone that can step in and be somewhat effective in a limited role right away. And Braun has done exactly that for Denver. Nothing spectacular or anything, but just solid minutes off the bench as a role player.
I watched a lot of Moore Jr. in the G-League and he literally has zero strengths. He's just OK-ish at almost everything, which makes for a fine G-League player. But in the NBA, he just seems overwhelmed by the size, speed, and athleticism and he has no single strength that a coach can point to as a differentiator.
IDK, may be that will change after an offseason of work, but he has a lot less runway for improvement than someone with only one year of college ball experience.
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To be clear in my post when I mentioned Moore I was only hoping we could get a guy that was playable/replacement level worthy next season since he is already on the roster. I still have hope for more than that but we need him to be more than say Bolmaro who was waived and went back to Europe. That was a bad pick by Rosas and so far I also look to be wrong about Bolmaro. The good news is Moore doesn’t turn 22 till September which means he is a few months younger than Braun. He is still fairly young. He is a guy I’m looking forward to in Summer league to see if he has developed his game.Q-is-here wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 12:06 pm Yeah, Moore Jr. was a real disappointment last year in the little time he got. I think what's especially disappointing is that when you draft a 3-year college player from a big-time program like Duke, you expect someone that can step in and be somewhat effective in a limited role right away. And Braun has done exactly that for Denver. Nothing spectacular or anything, but just solid minutes off the bench as a role player.
I watched a lot of Moore Jr. in the G-League and he literally has zero strengths. He's just OK-ish at almost everything, which makes for a fine G-League player. But in the NBA, he just seems overwhelmed by the size, speed, and athleticism and he has no single strength that a coach can point to as a differentiator.
IDK, may be that will change after an offseason of work, but he has a lot less runway for improvement than someone with only one year of college ball experience.
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We'll see on Moore. It would be a massive boost if he could turn himself into a quasi-point guard that can defend and hit open shots....like Jevon Carter or Shake Milton. But nothing he did last year suggests we can count on that happening.Monster wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:17 pmTo be clear in my post when I mentioned Moore I was only hoping we could get a guy that was playable/replacement level worthy next season since he is already on the roster. I still have hope for more than that but we need him to be more than say Bolmaro who was waived and went back to Europe. That was a bad pick by Rosas and so far I also look to be wrong about Bolmaro. The good news is Moore doesn’t turn 22 till September which means he is a few months younger than Braun. He is still fairly young. He is a guy I’m looking forward to in Summer league to see if he has developed his game.Q-is-here wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 12:06 pm Yeah, Moore Jr. was a real disappointment last year in the little time he got. I think what's especially disappointing is that when you draft a 3-year college player from a big-time program like Duke, you expect someone that can step in and be somewhat effective in a limited role right away. And Braun has done exactly that for Denver. Nothing spectacular or anything, but just solid minutes off the bench as a role player.
I watched a lot of Moore Jr. in the G-League and he literally has zero strengths. He's just OK-ish at almost everything, which makes for a fine G-League player. But in the NBA, he just seems overwhelmed by the size, speed, and athleticism and he has no single strength that a coach can point to as a differentiator.
IDK, may be that will change after an offseason of work, but he has a lot less runway for improvement than someone with only one year of college ball experience.
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I was in Vegas for Summer League last year. Moore and Spagnolo were both really unimpressive. I give Spag zero chance of becoming an NBA player. I think Moore has a better than zero chance, but I agree he’s not great at anything and I wouldn’t count on him. I consider Spagnolo and Moore trade fodder this summer. Maybe we could trade to get into the low first round or high second round and nab Brandon Podziemski.Q-is-here wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 3:12 pmWe'll see on Moore. It would be a massive boost if he could turn himself into a quasi-point guard that can defend and hit open shots....like Jevon Carter or Shake Milton. But nothing he did last year suggests we can count on that happening.Monster wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:17 pmTo be clear in my post when I mentioned Moore I was only hoping we could get a guy that was playable/replacement level worthy next season since he is already on the roster. I still have hope for more than that but we need him to be more than say Bolmaro who was waived and went back to Europe. That was a bad pick by Rosas and so far I also look to be wrong about Bolmaro. The good news is Moore doesn’t turn 22 till September which means he is a few months younger than Braun. He is still fairly young. He is a guy I’m looking forward to in Summer league to see if he has developed his game.Q-is-here wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 12:06 pm Yeah, Moore Jr. was a real disappointment last year in the little time he got. I think what's especially disappointing is that when you draft a 3-year college player from a big-time program like Duke, you expect someone that can step in and be somewhat effective in a limited role right away. And Braun has done exactly that for Denver. Nothing spectacular or anything, but just solid minutes off the bench as a role player.
I watched a lot of Moore Jr. in the G-League and he literally has zero strengths. He's just OK-ish at almost everything, which makes for a fine G-League player. But in the NBA, he just seems overwhelmed by the size, speed, and athleticism and he has no single strength that a coach can point to as a differentiator.
IDK, may be that will change after an offseason of work, but he has a lot less runway for improvement than someone with only one year of college ball experience.
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Personally I just think the Prince for Pritchard swap makes way too much sense. Celtics replace the Grant Williams role who they can’t sign long term if they want to avoid the 2nd tax bracket. The wolves get a back up PG that can shoot. Save 3.5 million. Allows us to sign Naz and Naw to around 18 million total a year and then can use that extra 3.5 million to either sign our 2nd round pick long term, Luka Garza long term, another FA that we could offer more than the min to , etc. Also adds Minott to the rotation.
I like melton and Carter but they are going to cost Naz or Naw to acquire them financially. I would rather get rid of Prince than Naz or Naw and still have some financial flexibility
I like melton and Carter but they are going to cost Naz or Naw to acquire them financially. I would rather get rid of Prince than Naz or Naw and still have some financial flexibility
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Just to compare…what is it that Kennedy Chandler or Sharife Cooper do well?Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:35 pmI was in Vegas for Summer League last year. Moore and Spagnolo were both really unimpressive. I give Spag zero chance of becoming an NBA player. I think Moore has a better than zero chance, but I agree he’s not great at anything and I wouldn’t count on him. I consider Spagnolo and Moore trade fodder this summer. Maybe we could trade to get into the low first round or high second round and nab Brandon Podziemski.Q-is-here wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 3:12 pmWe'll see on Moore. It would be a massive boost if he could turn himself into a quasi-point guard that can defend and hit open shots....like Jevon Carter or Shake Milton. But nothing he did last year suggests we can count on that happening.Monster wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:17 pm
To be clear in my post when I mentioned Moore I was only hoping we could get a guy that was playable/replacement level worthy next season since he is already on the roster. I still have hope for more than that but we need him to be more than say Bolmaro who was waived and went back to Europe. That was a bad pick by Rosas and so far I also look to be wrong about Bolmaro. The good news is Moore doesn’t turn 22 till September which means he is a few months younger than Braun. He is still fairly young. He is a guy I’m looking forward to in Summer league to see if he has developed his game.
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Chris Paul is being waived
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Not surprising when I looked at what his guaranteed money is. He will find another NBA job with no problem and maybe for some decent money.
Suns don’t have very many guys signed to contracts on their roster. That’s gonna be an interesting team to watch this offseason.
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I’d hate to lose Prince, but I think you’re spot on, Kek. As you noted, a Prince-Prichard swap makes too much sense for both teams not to happen.kekgeek wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 2:30 pm Personally I just think the Prince for Pritchard swap makes way too much sense. Celtics replace the Grant Williams role who they can’t sign long term if they want to avoid the 2nd tax bracket. The wolves get a back up PG that can shoot. Save 3.5 million. Allows us to sign Naz and Naw to around 18 million total a year and then can use that extra 3.5 million to either sign our 2nd round pick long term, Luka Garza long term, another FA that we could offer more than the min to , etc. Also adds Minott to the rotation.
I like melton and Carter but they are going to cost Naz or Naw to acquire them financially. I would rather get rid of Prince than Naz or Naw and still have some financial flexibility