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Duke13 wrote:Good possibility. Dunn would be off the board for sure. Instead of trading Dunn if we had the chance at drafting why would you consider trading Rubio?

I would consider trading Rubio and keeping Dunn, it all depends on what we get in return though. We will have options. I wouldn't shop Rubio, but if we get a sweet deal for him I pull the trigger.

I still think the 76ers may be looking to deal one of their bigs in exchange for a G like Dunn or Murray. Noel would be my top trade target. I also would be more than happy to sit and pick. While this isn't a star studded draft, we can get a quality player at 5. I think Thibs goes Dunn or Brown at 5 for their defensive upsides.

I am not much of a Randle fan. He's not that good and he's injury prone. He's not worth the fifth pick in my opinion. I also prefer Dieng. We can sign a big in free agency that can play right away and that is better or if we wanted a young guy with better upside, there are some decent bigs in this draft (Bender if we are lucky, Deyonta Davis, Poeltl, Skal, Chriss in the late lottery and I even think Maker has a higher ceiling).who should be available at end of first.

Would Rubio get us Noel in a trade? Assuming we draft Dunn.

Duke13 wrote:Would Rubio get us Noel in a trade? Assuming we draft Dunn.

Duh. But that would be Kahn like stupid move. If we draft Dunn, Rick is staying here too.

TeamRicky wrote:I am not much of a Randle fan. He's not that good and he's injury prone. He's not worth the fifth pick in my opinion and I prefer Dieng. We can sign a big in free agency that can play right away and that is better or if we wanted a young guy with better upside, there are some decent bigs in this draft (Bender if we are lucky, Deyonta Davis, Skal, Chriss in the late lottery and I even think Maker has a higher ceiling) who should be available at end of first.

I just wish you would be accurate when you talk poorly about a player. Randle just played 81 games this year. Not injury prone. Basically, if you call Randle injury prone and stick up for Rubio in that same sense, you're a selective hypocrite. He's also already a damn good rebounder. His 19.5 TRB% was higher than Kevin Love's, Pau Gasol's, and our very own Karl-Anthony Towns' just to name a few.

Lastly, Randle would be the best big in this draft besides perhaps Bender if he were in this class.

Duke13 wrote:Would Rubio get us Noel in a trade? Assuming we draft Dunn.

No clue. Philadelphia traded MCW because he couldn't shoot. That was the old management, who knows if the new management has a different view.

C- Towns
PF- Noel
SF- Wiggins
SG- Lavine
PG- Dunn

That would be a super athletic starting 5 with huge defensive potential. You are swapping a known solid PG (Rubio) for an unknown PG. Having a young vet that runs the well and plays good defense is hard to get rid of. Noel would fit very nicely though. Tough call for us.

Camden wrote:

TeamRicky wrote:I am not much of a Randle fan. He's not that good and he's injury prone. He's not worth the fifth pick in my opinion and I prefer Dieng. We can sign a big in free agency that can play right away and that is better or if we wanted a young guy with better upside, there are some decent bigs in this draft (Bender if we are lucky, Deyonta Davis, Skal, Chriss in the late lottery and I even think Maker has a higher ceiling) who should be available at end of first.

I just wish you would be accurate when you talk poorly about a player. Randle just played 81 games this year. Not injury prone. Basically, if you call Randle injury prone and stick up for Rubio in that same sense, you're a selective hypocrite. He's also already a damn good rebounder. His 19.5 TRB% was higher than Kevin Love's, Pau Gasol's, and our very own Karl-Anthony Towns' just to name a few.

Lastly, Randle would be the best big in this draft besides perhaps Bender if he were in this class.

OK, I'm not a big Randle fan and his serious injury history scares me. I realize he's a very good rebounder but overall I'm not impressed with his game. Its funny you throw around the term "hypocrite" but I could just as easily say the same about you.

I think everyone knows where I stand on a handful of players. Noel's one of them. I don't see him getting moved unfortunately. I've come to that sad realization. He's just too good and too young to get moved for an unknown that would be the No. 5 overall pick.

"Nerlens Noel has become one of the best stoppers in the game, to the point that he'd be receiving serious Defensive Player of the Year consideration if his team were more successful. According to defensive points saved, the point-preventing portion of NBA Math's TPA, he was the league's No. 1 defender during his rookie season and No. 10 during the 2015-16."

Just one stat that defines what most of the league already know... Noel plays really good defense. He'll also be a great fit next to Ingram or Simmons, though I'm confident the pick will be Ingram. He's not going anywhere -- at least not yet.

Camden wrote:I think everyone knows where I stand on a handful of players. Noel's one of them. I don't see him getting moved unfortunately. I've come to that sad realization. He's just too good and too young to get moved for an unknown that would be the No. 5 overall pick.

"Nerlens Noel has become one of the best stoppers in the game, to the point that he'd be receiving serious Defensive Player of the Year consideration if his team were more successful. According to defensive points saved, the point-preventing portion of NBA Math's TPA, he was the league's No. 1 defender during his rookie season and No. 10 during the 2015-16."

Just one stat that defines what most of the league already know... Noel plays really good defense. He'll also be a great fit next to Ingram or Simmons, though I'm confident the pick will be Ingram. He's not going anywhere -- at least not yet.

Really, I think there will be good options for us if we keep the pick or trade it. Noel isn't essential for us to have a good offseason.

TeamRicky wrote:

Camden wrote:

TeamRicky wrote:I am not much of a Randle fan. He's not that good and he's injury prone. He's not worth the fifth pick in my opinion and I prefer Dieng. We can sign a big in free agency that can play right away and that is better or if we wanted a young guy with better upside, there are some decent bigs in this draft (Bender if we are lucky, Deyonta Davis, Skal, Chriss in the late lottery and I even think Maker has a higher ceiling) who should be available at end of first.

I just wish you would be accurate when you talk poorly about a player. Randle just played 81 games this year. Not injury prone. Basically, if you call Randle injury prone and stick up for Rubio in that same sense, you're a selective hypocrite. He's also already a damn good rebounder. His 19.5 TRB% was higher than Kevin Love's, Pau Gasol's, and our very own Karl-Anthony Towns' just to name a few.

Lastly, Randle would be the best big in this draft besides perhaps Bender if he were in this class.

OK, I'm not a big Randle fan and his serious injury history scares me. I realize he's a very good rebounder but overall I'm not impressed with his game. Its funny you throw around the term "hypocrite" but I could just as easily say the same about you.

You just called Randle injury prone because he broke his leg a year ago and a half ago. He played 81 out of 82 games the very next season. You've been in debates arguing that Rubio's not injury prone, rather his ACL tear and severe ankle sprain were merely circumstantial, though he's missed a lot of games over his young career, and that he was not injury prone. I don't disagree. I too think Rubio's injuries were wacky. Randle's is pretty similar and he just played a full season. That's absolutely hypocritical.

If you have something to call me out on, go for it. If I'm so contradictory with my viewpoints, I encourage you to let them be known. I didn't like Porzingis pre-draft for various reasons that have been explained multiple times. I also liked Stauskas as a late lottery pick a couple years ago. There, I did your job for you. Tell me how I'm a hypocrite.