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Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2026 9:47 am

Q-is-here wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2026 8:31 am An excerpt from an article in The Athletic today by Sam Amick:

The Timberwolves, meanwhile, are also seen by some as an emerging option for the Bucks. While Antetokounmpo is known to prefer a trade involving a team in the Eastern Conference, league sources say the Bucks are interested in what Minnesota has to offer. If the Timberwolves want to get into the mix, league sources say the Bucks would want a package including Jaden McDaniels, Naz Reid, Terrence Shannon Jr. and their two tradable first-round picks (No. 29 in this year’s draft and their 2033 pick). Yet considering McDaniels’ immense value alongside Edwards as an elite perimeter defender, as well as his impressive postseason performance, team sources say Minnesota has indicated that McDaniels is off limits. Per those sources, the same goes for 19-year-old big man Joan Beringer.

Interesting. That seems to leave Naz on the table. I wonder what sort of Naz-centric package would work. We’d probably have to get some tradeable assets (picks or young talent) for Randle and/or Rudy to including in the Naz package. I still don’t see a path or at least a path that wouldn’t seriously gut the team to the point where the net improvement wouldn’t be there or be enough.

I agree that there is no realistic path here. There is going to be a lot of competition for Giannis this summer, and the Bucks will be in the driver's seat. And I haven't heard any rumors of a Wolves deal that doesn't involve Jaden. I would say the minimum they would accept from us would be Jaden, one of Rudy/Ju/Naz and all the first round draft capital we can offer. Non starter for me.

Q-is-here wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2026 9:51 am

Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2026 9:47 am

Q-is-here wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2026 8:31 am An excerpt from an article in The Athletic today by Sam Amick:

Interesting. That seems to leave Naz on the table. I wonder what sort of Naz-centric package would work. We’d probably have to get some tradeable assets (picks or young talent) for Randle and/or Rudy to including in the Naz package. I still don’t see a path or at least a path that wouldn’t seriously gut the team to the point where the net improvement wouldn’t be there or be enough.

I still think there is a path that wouldn't gut the team, but it would involve trading Rudy for the type of young talent and/or picks that Miwaukee is looking for to augment our own assets we'd offer outside of Jaden and Beringer. Do I think something like this gets done? Probably not. Is it possible though? With Tim Connelly at the helm, I think it is.

I think that’s a good take, Q. I can see where Rudy might bring a return of picks and/or young players who could make a Naz-centric package good enough for Milwaukee. I’m thinking it might be something like Naz, Rudy, TSJ and #28. I’m assuming we’d then trade Randle to bring in some quality depth and of course re-sign Ayo. That still leaves us pretty thin depending on who we get back for Randle. So yes, it’s possible.

My preference remains moving forward with a core of Ant, Jaden, Naz and Ayo supplemented by the development of TSJ, Beringer and Rocco. I’d use Randle and possible Rudy to assemble the right supporting cast around those four. Rudy would garner a strong return. So I’d pass on the Giannis sweepstakes.

Getting back to Kyrie. While I’m not in favor of pursing him given his age, long track record of poor durability and recent major reconstructive surgery, I could see taking a shot at getting him at a bargain price. Here’s what Dallas gave up for Kyrie when he was only 31 years old and obviously before his ACL surgery:

Dallas received:

* Kyrie Irving
* Markieff Morris

Brooklyn received:

* Spencer Dinwiddie
* Dorian Finney-Smith
* 2029 unprotected first-round pick (DAL)
* 2027 second-round pick
* 2029 second-round pick

The equivalent of that deal discounted for Kyrie’s current age (34) and recent reconstructive surgery shouldn’t be more than Randle and a 2nd round pick in my view. At that price, it might be worth rolling the dice on Kyrie. On the other hand, there are opportunity costs tied to what we might otherwise get in return for Randle.

FNG wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2026 10:04 am

Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2026 9:47 am

Q-is-here wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2026 8:31 am An excerpt from an article in The Athletic today by Sam Amick:

Interesting. That seems to leave Naz on the table. I wonder what sort of Naz-centric package would work. We’d probably have to get some tradeable assets (picks or young talent) for Randle and/or Rudy to including in the Naz package. I still don’t see a path or at least a path that wouldn’t seriously gut the team to the point where the net improvement wouldn’t be there or be enough.

I agree that there is no realistic path here. There is going to be a lot of competition for Giannis this summer, and the Bucks will be in the driver's seat. And I haven't heard any rumors of a Wolves deal that doesn't involve Jaden. I would say the minimum they would accept from us would be Jaden, one of Rudy/Ju/Naz and all the first round draft capital we can offer. Non starter for me.

Roughly my thinking as well. This news is kinda exciting since the last thing I want to see them do is trade either of those guys for any of the names we've heard mentioned who might/are available.

Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2026 10:15 am Getting back to Kyrie. While I’m not in favor of pursing him given his age, long track record of poor durability and recent major reconstructive surgery, I could see taking a shot at getting him at a bargain price. Here’s what Dallas gave up for Kyrie when he was only 31 years old and obviously before his ACL surgery:

Dallas received:

* Kyrie Irving
* Markieff Morris

Brooklyn received:

* Spencer Dinwiddie
* Dorian Finney-Smith
* 2029 unprotected first-round pick (DAL)
* 2027 second-round pick
* 2029 second-round pick

The equivalent of that deal discounted for Kyrie’s current age (34) and recent reconstructive surgery shouldn’t be more than Randle and a 2nd round pick in my view. At that price, it might be worth rolling the dice on Kyrie. On the other hand, there are opportunity costs tied to what we might otherwise get in return for Randle.

The ideal trade might be Randle + #28 for Kyrie and a 2nd. Essentially just a pick swap that gets MN off having to pay a first rounder if that's the direction they want to go (the ol, trade a late 1st for a couple 2nds type situation). Probably a higher possibility if a 3rd team is involved who takes Randle.

For conversations sake, the Wolves could financially trade Jaden, Naz, Donte, pick 28 and the 2033 first for Giannis. What could Julius and Rudy fetch to fill out the roster?

Ayo/Mike(min)
Ant/TJ

Giannis/Slo Mo(min)
Joan/Rocco

There is quite a bit of ball handling when you include Giannis who will have the ball a lot. The 3 things you'd need back in trades for Ru and Ju would be wings and a center, hopefully all of which can shoot. I know most are against trading Jaden and/or Naz but something like this isn't a hopeless scenario and could be very successful.

Phenom wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2026 10:58 am For conversations sake, the Wolves could financially trade Jaden, Naz, Donte, pick 28 and the 2033 first for Giannis. What could Julius and Rudy fetch to fill out the roster?

Ayo/Mike(min)
Ant/TJ

Giannis/Slo Mo(min)
Joan/Rocco

There is quite a bit of ball handling when you include Giannis who will have the ball a lot. The 3 things you'd need back in trades for Ru and Ju would be wings and a center, hopefully all of which can shoot. I know most are against trading Jaden and/or Naz but something like this isn't a hopeless scenario and could be very successful.

Rudy has to be worth at least 2 firsts in value+ (unless it's 1 higher pick). I certainly wouldn't trade him for less than that currently. A defensive floor raiser like that has value to quite a few teams. EX: if they engaged with the Hornets, I'd be starting with 2 firsts, including the 2027 DAL pick.

Randle I think still has late-ish first round pick in value.

A couple thoughts

If some team like Milwaukee is interested in Beringer I would guess the Wolves wouldn't end up keeping both Beringer and Rocco unless teams really don't value Rocco at all which is possible but he seems like a guy a team looking to rebuild with young talent would be interested in.

The reporting has been consistent that one of the issues with the Heat's offer is Gianni's isn't sure he wants to go there after Miami deals players away. Obviously the Wolves would have Edwards if they traded for Giannis but if hey did a deal how much would be left here too? Giannis seems like a smart guy he has to look at OKC and the Spurs and think we are gonna need some guys if we want to win a championship.

Again with Kyrie unless Dallas just wants to move on or he is saying he wants to go somewhere else you have to send them something worthwhile. I'm not sure a late round pick in this draft is enough or not. If we had Kyrie what would you be willing to take in a trade for him?

We haven't seen the full effect of the 2nd apron era on the trade market and I wonder if we start to this summer.
I think everyone is mostly realizing the same thing, which is that it's no longer top heavy teams winning at the end.

I continue to believe that we're all gonna be pretty surprised at the Giannis deal whenever it happens. It really seems to me like the Bucks are having trouble getting what they want out of this because team aren't willing to strip their rosters to bring in a player even as good as Giannis, and everyone also has seen the writing on the wall for a long time --- he's not staying there. The team getting him also needs assurances that he'll sign an extension, meaning Giannis has to actually want to go there.

I'm not saying he'll be had for nothing, I just think the price will be lower than we expect

Wizards: Julius Randle, Myles Turner

Wolves: Giannis, Grant Williams, Gary Trent Jr., Diabate

Hornets: Rudy Gobert

Blazers: Anthony Davis

Bucks: Jeremi Grant, Naz Reid, Shaedon Sharpe, Josh Green, Hornets pick 18, Hornets 2027 1st via Mavs top 2 protected, Wolves pick 28

I don't see why something like this wouldn't work.

We know AD is being shopped/wants out.

We know Hawks and Blazers have interest in AD

We know Wolves have interest in Giannis

We kinda know what Bucks are looking for

Seems like 5 wins all the way around to me.

Only speculative team, is who would want Gobert. Personally, i think Hawks would want him more than Hornets. They also have good stuff to offer Bucks. Possibly Suns may have interest but don't really have stuff to offer up.