Draft Day GDT

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TheFuture wrote:
khans2k5 wrote:
PorkChop wrote:
Camden0916 wrote:Jon K: Rosas said fit didn't play into the decision to pick Anthony Edwards. He stood "head and shoulders" above anyone else in their eyes.

Oof.


Rosas did say a month back that need would not play a role. They would draft as they saw BPA. Not saying I agree.


We also have to remember this is a guy that comes from the small ball mold so he's just never going to value big men the same as wings/guards. In his mind Edwards was probably the best prospect, but in reality where guys like AD and BAM just faced off in the finals, quality big men are still really important. I heard on the broadcast that the Warriors had Wiseman as their guy so tell me which organization likely has the better evaluators ranking these prospects? A team that won with small ball still valued the big more than both the guards.


They fleeced him. Ran away with their favorite prospect, a highly talented reclamation project in Wiggins ( which fits another great need, and who I believe will balloon there ), and netted a likely top 10 pick from us next year. I said it before, fuck Rosas. More importantly, fuck Glen Taylor.


Wiggins is a $25 mil/yr reclamation project? Wiggins, at this point, is at best Harrison Barnes 2.0. Most people called that trade a fleecing by the Wolves since most viewed Wiggins as a negative contract. So it then boils down to the Wolves 2021 top 3 protected pick vs Russell, and only 1 of those two fit the Wolves timeline to keep Towns happy.

The real danger of losing next year's pick is if the Wolves fall between picks 4-8. Anything else and I'd call it a win.
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At the very least... there's no reason why KAT shouldn't be one of the league's top scorers next year.
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mrhockey89 wrote:I'm not quite as doom and gloom as most on here. I, like everyone here, wanted Wiseman. I also would have loved Bey at 17. That would have been a very successful draft outcome for me.

With that said, I think it's probably smart to at least be open minded about what we came out with. Edwards, while the bust potential is definitely there and we all see it, if he does hit, he would be exactly what we'd need. I'm definitely looking at the bright side, but I know Dwayne Wade thinks there's a shot that Edwards ends up better than himself (of course, I recall Wade being high on OJ Mayo back in the day too).

"Per Sports Illustrated's Jeremy Woo:

The thing that's a separator for me, if I've got to sum it up, outside of all the talent and upside, is that Anthony is one of the greatest teammates I've had the privilege of coaching. The way he cares about others, how engaging and involved he is with them. For a young man, he's got an incredible level of empathy. I don't try to make comparisons so much when I've coached Dwyane Wade and Victor Oladipo. But when you look at their talent level mixed with what kind of teammates they are, what kind of empathy they have as human beings, that's where I see tremendous similarities [to Anthony]."

At #23, I was fine with the draft and stash. He's an asset, he brings a lot of the playmaking that our FO was clearly looking for (did anyone else notice the Wolves were looking hard at Ball, then traded for Rubio, then added Bolmaro, another high IQ passer. If nothing else, he's an asset, and I highly doubt they'd bring him over this year, rather let him develop in Spain for the next year.

#28, Jaden McDaniels. Definitely looks like a home run swing. This guy doesn't look like a role player. He looks like a kid with a silky smooth game, solid NBA size and length, and loads of upside. He clearly dropped to #28 because he is raw (not necessarily his skill set, but the maturity in his game). Worst case #28 is a bust, best case he could actually become a stud. I recall the Wolves taking Wayne Ellington at #28 or #29, and this kid's ceiling is much higher.

My ideal draft? No, but we are just over a month away from league start, and given Gersson and co have literally watched every minute of game tape available on these guys, it's probably worth at least seeing them on the court together before calling it a bust.

For me, I'm excited to watch the new look Wolves. I'm excited to have less no-names on the court together.
I also think this means we'll either move on from Beasley or we'll trade Culver (probably the former).

And say what you want about Rubio, but he was almost always in our top statistical lineups when he was with the Wolves, and saw a bubble and multiple playoff appearances while the Wolves had 1 (because we had a superstar in Jimmy Butler). I feel a lot better about having $17 mil going to Ricky than $19 mil going to Gorgui/Teague.


My favorite deal of tonight was for Rubio. But why dump contracts to take one back? I realize we are not an attraction, but there was at least money to try. Now it is gone.

If we move on from Beasley, then Rosas wasted a first round pick. Out of his control, yes. Still lands on Rosas.

Oladipo and Wade never had competitive issues. Edward's does. He has shown he quits when the going gets tough. Straps it up when he sees a chance.

So now Rosas promotes and pushes a 3 ball offense preached to him (his mentor ran from it), but wants his shit staff to fix Okogie, Culver, Balmero, Edwards, and McDaniels at the same time?

Screw this guy.
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Ok... I'm way behind trying to catch up on DVR.
I'm extremely disappointed they didn't trade down.

Can somebody give me a recap of what the Wolves have as of right now...
Thanks.
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:Ok... I'm way behind trying to catch up on DVR.
I'm extremely disappointed they didn't trade down.

Can somebody give me a recap of what the Wolves have as of right now...
Thanks.


Flush your toilet and listen to it swirl down the drain. Wait for it. Okay, that's what the Wolves did with their draft picks tonight.
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:Ok... I'm way behind trying to catch up on DVR.
I'm extremely disappointed they didn't trade down.

Can somebody give me a recap of what the Wolves have as of right now...
Thanks.


Anthony Edwards, Ricky Rubio, Leandro Bolmaro, Jaden McDaniels
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Camden0916 wrote:
AbeVigodaLive wrote:Ok... I'm way behind trying to catch up on DVR.
I'm extremely disappointed they didn't trade down.

Can somebody give me a recap of what the Wolves have as of right now...
Thanks.


Flush your toilet and listen to it swirl down the drain. Wait for it. Okay, that's what the Wolves did with their draft picks tonight.


I dont believe that does it justice.
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Can somebody clear this up for me?

The wolves either had to trade James Johnson for Rubio or do a sign and trade of either Juancho or Beasley to complete the Rubio trade, right?

I don't think there is any other way to make the money work
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Camden wrote:
AbeVigodaLive wrote:Ok... I'm way behind trying to catch up on DVR.
I'm extremely disappointed they didn't trade down.

Can somebody give me a recap of what the Wolves have as of right now...
Thanks.


Flush your toilet and listen to it swirl down the drain. Wait for it. Okay, that's what the Wolves did with their draft picks tonight.



I was disappointed with #1 (and I wasn't even jumping on the Wiseman thing like so many others here)...

So from what I can tell... a young immature team that doesn't know how to win added...

Edwards, who is criticized for not playing winning basketball. And McDaniels who was benched by a really really shitty Washington team for playing crappy basketball?

Somebody walk me off the cliff I've been hanging from for the past 31 years...
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Volans19 wrote:Can somebody clear this up for me?

The wolves either had to trade James Johnson for Rubio or do a sign and trade of either Juancho or Beasley to complete the Rubio trade, right?

I don't think there is any other way to make the money work


James Johnson is gone.
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