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Re: Draft prospects - Who do we want?
Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 11:22 am
by bleedspeed
Camden wrote:4:00 PM ET on CBS: Arkansas (Bobby Portis) vs Kentucky (Karl-Anthony Towns)
It's like Christmas morning for me. Two of my favorite prospects going head to head. It's also a huge game. UK is still undefeated and atop the rankings. ARK is second in the SEC and could use a big win like this to up their seed for the tourney. Their pressure defense is fantastic. Look to see UK's backcourt make mistakes and turn the ball over. Should be a good game overall.
I heard this. It could be a coming out party for Portis.
Re: Draft prospects - Who do we want?
Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 11:57 am
by Coolbreeze44
khans2k5 wrote:CoolBreeze44 wrote:If we do get Okafor, Flip has to find some way to keep the driving lanes open. We don't need a guy who is going to clog the low post and restrict our athletes from getting to the basket, and thus the free throw line. Towns might be a better fit for us.
Because Pek is known for his midrange game keeping the paint open. Our guys have been doing fine with Pek so there should be no reason it couldn't work with Okafor.
I also find it funny that we keep saying we need shot blockers at the rim and then people bitch out Dieng and Payne for leaving their feet going for blocks. You can't stay grounded and get blocks in the NBA. You either keep position and challenge shots or commit to the block because that is the only way to actually get the block. Okafor is more likely to be a hold his ground and challenge shots guy like Pek and Towns is more likely to be a leave his feet guy going for blocks guy. The question then becomes whether or not we can play 3 guys going for blocks or if the more grounded guy is also needed to seal off defenders for rebounds.
I would disagree. I think Pek's inability to facilitate from the high post DOES clog things up a bit for us. I'm not saying he can't run the high pick n roll, but he is useless in terms of finding cutters and drawing his man away from the rim. It certainly has an impact.
Re: Draft prospects - Who do we want?
Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:22 pm
by khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]
CoolBreeze44 wrote:khans2k5 wrote:CoolBreeze44 wrote:If we do get Okafor, Flip has to find some way to keep the driving lanes open. We don't need a guy who is going to clog the low post and restrict our athletes from getting to the basket, and thus the free throw line. Towns might be a better fit for us.
Because Pek is known for his midrange game keeping the paint open. Our guys have been doing fine with Pek so there should be no reason it couldn't work with Okafor.
I also find it funny that we keep saying we need shot blockers at the rim and then people bitch out Dieng and Payne for leaving their feet going for blocks. You can't stay grounded and get blocks in the NBA. You either keep position and challenge shots or commit to the block because that is the only way to actually get the block. Okafor is more likely to be a hold his ground and challenge shots guy like Pek and Towns is more likely to be a leave his feet guy going for blocks guy. The question then becomes whether or not we can play 3 guys going for blocks or if the more grounded guy is also needed to seal off defenders for rebounds.
I would disagree. I think Pek's inability to facilitate from the high post DOES clog things up a bit for us. I'm not saying he can't run the high pick n roll, but he is useless in terms of finding cutters and drawing his man away from the rim. It certainly has an impact.
Wiggins has been getting to the rim just fine. Ricky has been able to penetrate without issue (he just hasn't been looking to score much at the rim). The Heat were the only true 5 out team in recent memory. Everyone else gets by with a big clogging the lane.
Re: Draft prospects - Who do we want?
Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:06 pm
by WildWolf2813
Maybe I'm overly harsh but I'm just not sold on Cauley-Stein at the pro level.
Re: Draft prospects - Who do we want?
Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:22 pm
by TRKO [enjin:12664595]
We really need a top 3 pick. Okafor, Towns, and Russell look like elite players. Would love for us to nab one to pair with wiggins.
Re: Draft prospects - Who do we want?
Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:30 pm
by TheFuture
bleedspeed177 wrote:Camden wrote:4:00 PM ET on CBS: Arkansas (Bobby Portis) vs Kentucky (Karl-Anthony Towns)
It's like Christmas morning for me. Two of my favorite prospects going head to head. It's also a huge game. UK is still undefeated and atop the rankings. ARK is second in the SEC and could use a big win like this to up their seed for the tourney. Their pressure defense is fantastic. Look to see UK's backcourt make mistakes and turn the ball over. Should be a good game overall.
I heard this. It could be a coming out party for Portis.
Is it just me or does portis seem a bit small to be a NBA 4? He seems to be having a ton of trouble dealing with Kentucky's length and strength inside.
Re: Draft prospects - Who do we want?
Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:42 pm
by TRKO [enjin:12664595]
Rubiooooooo wrote:bleedspeed177 wrote:Camden wrote:4:00 PM ET on CBS: Arkansas (Bobby Portis) vs Kentucky (Karl-Anthony Towns)
It's like Christmas morning for me. Two of my favorite prospects going head to head. It's also a huge game. UK is still undefeated and atop the rankings. ARK is second in the SEC and could use a big win like this to up their seed for the tourney. Their pressure defense is fantastic. Look to see UK's backcourt make mistakes and turn the ball over. Should be a good game overall.
I heard this. It could be a coming out party for Portis.
Is it just me or does portis seem a bit small to be a NBA 4? He seems to be having a ton of trouble dealing with Kentucky's length and strength inside.
Kentucky has a billion 7' guys. Portis is 6'10 240. I would say that is big enough.
Re: Draft prospects - Who do we want?
Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:45 pm
by TheFuture
TRKO wrote:Rubiooooooo wrote:bleedspeed177 wrote:Camden wrote:4:00 PM ET on CBS: Arkansas (Bobby Portis) vs Kentucky (Karl-Anthony Towns)
It's like Christmas morning for me. Two of my favorite prospects going head to head. It's also a huge game. UK is still undefeated and atop the rankings. ARK is second in the SEC and could use a big win like this to up their seed for the tourney. Their pressure defense is fantastic. Look to see UK's backcourt make mistakes and turn the ball over. Should be a good game overall.
I heard this. It could be a coming out party for Portis.
Is it just me or does portis seem a bit small to be a NBA 4? He seems to be having a ton of trouble dealing with Kentucky's length and strength inside.
Kentucky has a billion 7' guys. Portis is 6'10 240. I would say that is big enough.
You sure? He looks 6'8 to 6'9 and about 215. I realize Kentucky is big but that's like an NBA test. Plus most of the bigs on Kentucky are 6'10 to 6'11. Port is looks much smaller.
Re: Draft prospects - Who do we want?
Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:53 pm
by TRKO [enjin:12664595]
Rubiooooooo wrote:TRKO wrote:Rubiooooooo wrote:bleedspeed177 wrote:Camden wrote:4:00 PM ET on CBS: Arkansas (Bobby Portis) vs Kentucky (Karl-Anthony Towns)
It's like Christmas morning for me. Two of my favorite prospects going head to head. It's also a huge game. UK is still undefeated and atop the rankings. ARK is second in the SEC and could use a big win like this to up their seed for the tourney. Their pressure defense is fantastic. Look to see UK's backcourt make mistakes and turn the ball over. Should be a good game overall.
I heard this. It could be a coming out party for Portis.
Is it just me or does portis seem a bit small to be a NBA 4? He seems to be having a ton of trouble dealing with Kentucky's length and strength inside.
Kentucky has a billion 7' guys. Portis is 6'10 240. I would say that is big enough.
You sure? He looks 6'8 to 6'9 and about 215. I realize Kentucky is big but that's like an NBA test. Plus most of the bigs on Kentucky are 6'10 to 6'11. Port is looks much smaller.
His profile on the Arkansas website has him listed at 6'11" 242
www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/sport/m-baskbl/2014/roster/53b342d3e4b0a4c99fcb0c91
Re: Draft prospects - Who do we want?
Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:58 pm
by TheFuture
TRKO wrote:Rubiooooooo wrote:TRKO wrote:Rubiooooooo wrote:bleedspeed177 wrote:Camden wrote:4:00 PM ET on CBS: Arkansas (Bobby Portis) vs Kentucky (Karl-Anthony Towns)
It's like Christmas morning for me. Two of my favorite prospects going head to head. It's also a huge game. UK is still undefeated and atop the rankings. ARK is second in the SEC and could use a big win like this to up their seed for the tourney. Their pressure defense is fantastic. Look to see UK's backcourt make mistakes and turn the ball over. Should be a good game overall.
I heard this. It could be a coming out party for Portis.
Is it just me or does portis seem a bit small to be a NBA 4? He seems to be having a ton of trouble dealing with Kentucky's length and strength inside.
Kentucky has a billion 7' guys. Portis is 6'10 240. I would say that is big enough.
You sure? He looks 6'8 to 6'9 and about 215. I realize Kentucky is big but that's like an NBA test. Plus most of the bigs on Kentucky are 6'10 to 6'11. Port is looks much smaller.
His profile on the Arkansas website has him listed at 6'11" 242
www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/sport/m-baskbl/2014/roster/53b342d3e4b0a4c99fcb0c91
I see what he is listed at but it doesn't quite fit the eye test. It wouldn't be the first time a player is given an inch or two