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Towns impressed tonight.

CoolBreeze44 wrote:Towns impressed tonight.

Come on, Cool. There's a seat next to me on the KAT bandwagon. It's got your name on it my man.

Camden0916 wrote:

CoolBreeze44 wrote:Towns impressed tonight.

Come on, Cool. There's a seat next to me on the KAT bandwagon. It's got your name on it my man.

Wouldn't that be a sight to see, but I do love towns he has been my number 1 guy from last the beginning

Also taken from Real GM.

Stats (all from NBA.com) that highlight how much we need a big man upgrade:

The Wolves are:

26th of 30 in Opponent OReb%
19th out of 30 in Points in the Paint
30th out of 30 in Opponent Points in the Paint
30th out of 30 in Opponent FG% Less than 5 ft.
27th out of 30 in DReb%
30th out of 30 in Opponent eFG%
28th out of 30 in Opponent's shots blocked per game
20th out of 30 in FG% Less than 5 ft.
28th out of 30 in FG% 5-9 ft.

Camden0916 wrote:Also taken from Real GM.

Stats (all from NBA.com) that highlight how much we need a big man upgrade:

The Wolves are:

26th of 30 in Opponent OReb%
19th out of 30 in Points in the Paint
30th out of 30 in Opponent Points in the Paint
30th out of 30 in Opponent FG% Less than 5 ft.
27th out of 30 in DReb%
30th out of 30 in Opponent eFG%
28th out of 30 in Opponent's shots blocked per game
20th out of 30 in FG% Less than 5 ft.
28th out of 30 in FG% 5-9 ft.

Agreed we need to have an upgrade with our bigs but thad was also our pf and the stuff you mentioned was thad weaknesses. Also gorgui also struggles at the rim defensively

We absolutely need big man depth, especially with Pek's health situation. Dieng is a decent value at his current salary, but I'm not sure he'll be worth the price he commands on his second contract. We may need to think about moving him at some point.

That being said, I'd still take the best player available in the draft, regardless of position. Mudiay might be the one exception.

Q12543 wrote:We absolutely need big man depth, especially with Pek's health situation. Dieng is a decent value at his current salary, but I'm not sure he'll be worth the price he commands on his second contract. We may need to think about moving him at some point.

That being said, I'd still take the best player available in the draft, regardless of position. Mudiay might be the one exception.

While I'm generally a "draft to fill a need" guy, I'm in agreement with this take. I think we need to take BPA, and if we are 4th, I still think that could be Russell. I also am hesitant about Mudiay, although he was really impressive in his return to Guangdong Sunday. I have a sense the Lakers may like him, and maybe they choose him at 3 if they land there.

The reason I am a BPA guy in this draft is that I think a good big man will be available when we pick early in the 2nd round. Guys I am looking at that have a chance to be there are Robert Upshaw, Christian Wood, Rakeem Christmas, Dakari Johnson, and even Fatso Kennedy Meeks. Although these guys project to be backup centers at best, that would still help us in a position of need, and this draft appears to be incredibly deep with serviceable 7 footers.

longstrangetrip wrote:

Q12543 wrote:We absolutely need big man depth, especially with Pek's health situation. Dieng is a decent value at his current salary, but I'm not sure he'll be worth the price he commands on his second contract. We may need to think about moving him at some point.

That being said, I'd still take the best player available in the draft, regardless of position. Mudiay might be the one exception.

While I'm generally a "draft to fill a need" guy, I'm in agreement with this take. I think we need to take BPA, and if we are 4th, I still think that could be Russell. I also am hesitant about Mudiay, although he was really impressive in his return to Guangdong Sunday. I have a sense the Lakers may like him, and maybe they choose him at 3 if they land there.

The reason I am a BPA guy in this draft is that I think a good big man will be available when we pick early in the 2nd round. Guys I am looking at that have a chance to be there are Robert Upshaw, Christian Wood, Rakeem Christmas, Dakari Johnson, and even Fatso Kennedy Meeks. Although these guys project to be backup centers at best, that would still help us in a position of need, and this draft appears to be incredibly deep with serviceable 7 footers.

There won't be a roster spot for a second round pick unless someone gets cut.

Pek, KG, Dieng, AP, AB, Wiggins, Bazz, Bud, Hummel, GR3, Martin, Lavine, Neal, Ricky, Lo Brown, 1st round pick. That's 16 alone so someone needs to go to sign the 1st round pick which will probably be Neal signing with someone else. Now you have to cut someone else to get down to 14 for a second round pick which has no point because it would cost extra money for a deep depth guy.

longstrangetrip wrote:

Q12543 wrote:We absolutely need big man depth, especially with Pek's health situation. Dieng is a decent value at his current salary, but I'm not sure he'll be worth the price he commands on his second contract. We may need to think about moving him at some point.

That being said, I'd still take the best player available in the draft, regardless of position. Mudiay might be the one exception.

While I'm generally a "draft to fill a need" guy, I'm in agreement with this take. I think we need to take BPA, and if we are 4th, I still think that could be Russell. I also am hesitant about Mudiay, although he was really impressive in his return to Guangdong Sunday. I have a sense the Lakers may like him, and maybe they choose him at 3 if they land there.

The reason I am a BPA guy in this draft is that I think a good big man will be available when we pick early in the 2nd round. Guys I am looking at that have a chance to be there are Robert Upshaw, Christian Wood, Rakeem Christmas, Dakari Johnson, and even Fatso Kennedy Meeks. Although these guys project to be backup centers at best, that would still help us in a position of need, and this draft appears to be incredibly deep with serviceable 7 footers.

Good point. Other effective big men taken with 2nd rounders: Nikola Pekovic (and yes, I know he would have gone higher if people knew he was coming over right away), Marc Gasol, Omer Asik, DeAndre Jordan, and Hassan Whiteside. In fact, that's kind of an insane list. All those guys have been legit starters in this league and most form the bedrock of their team. Rudy Gobbert and Jusuf Nurkic are two other young promising Centers that were taken with mid to late first rounders.

Ahhh, drafting for need vs drafting for talent. It's one of the cloudiest debates in all of sports. Funny, though, because teams usually combine both perspectives.