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Re: Its Lottery Eve
Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 9:38 pm
by TRKO [enjin:12664595]
Camden0916 wrote:I think everyone knows where I stand on a handful of players. Noel's one of them. I don't see him getting moved unfortunately. I've come to that sad realization. He's just too good and too young to get moved for an unknown that would be the No. 5 overall pick.
"Nerlens Noel has become one of the best stoppers in the game, to the point that he'd be receiving serious Defensive Player of the Year consideration if his team were more successful. According to defensive points saved, the point-preventing portion of NBA Math's TPA, he was the league's No. 1 defender during his rookie season and No. 10 during the 2015-16."
Just one stat that defines what most of the league already know... Noel plays really good defense. He'll also be a great fit next to Ingram or Simmons, though I'm confident the pick will be Ingram. He's not going anywhere -- at least not yet.
Trying not to live in the past, but had Cleveland done the smart thing and drafted Noel over Bennett then included him in the Love trade, then we would be sitting pretty right now. That being said, I definitely see what it would take to get him. The 76ers are loaded with front court options. It doesn't hurt to ask.
Re: Its Lottery Eve
Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 9:47 pm
by worldK
I have the sixers picking simmons. That is why I believe okafor could be had. I see the celtics making an offer for okafor with their 3rd pick and sixers pick murray.
Simmons and murray at pg is a good fit. Noel starts at center for them and embiid (If he can play) gets bring along slowly off the bench. They will probably throw big money at harrison barnes and fournier to shore up their wing positions.
Re: Its Lottery Eve
Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 9:49 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
TRKO wrote:Camden0916 wrote:I think everyone knows where I stand on a handful of players. Noel's one of them. I don't see him getting moved unfortunately. I've come to that sad realization. He's just too good and too young to get moved for an unknown that would be the No. 5 overall pick.
"Nerlens Noel has become one of the best stoppers in the game, to the point that he'd be receiving serious Defensive Player of the Year consideration if his team were more successful. According to defensive points saved, the point-preventing portion of NBA Math's TPA, he was the league's No. 1 defender during his rookie season and No. 10 during the 2015-16."
Just one stat that defines what most of the league already know... Noel plays really good defense. He'll also be a great fit next to Ingram or Simmons, though I'm confident the pick will be Ingram. He's not going anywhere -- at least not yet.
Trying not to live in the past, but had Cleveland done the smart thing and drafted Noel over Bennett then included him in the Love trade, then we would be sitting pretty right now. That being said, I definitely see what it would take to get him. The 76ers are loaded with front court options. It doesn't hurt to ask.
I could see them moving Okafor or Embiid before anyone. I could see Boston scooping up Okafor. Stevens is smart enough to be able to utilize him fully offensively. Bottom line is that Noel's arguably Philly's best player and he's 22 years old. New management has very little reason to deal him. Trust me, it hurts to say that, lol.
Re: Its Lottery Eve
Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 9:51 pm
by Monster
I like Dunn but I think he is overrated to some extent. I may prefer another player but I wouldn't be upset with him either. Having said that I think if you pick him you keep Rubio too. If Dunn is good he will play backup PG and get some SG minutes too since the Wolves don't exactly have typical SGs on the roster other that Lavine. If Dunn looks like the real deal and moving Rubio makes sense that can be accomplished later. Add talent that's what the Wolves should do if they think Dunn is the best talent draft him. If he can be an impact player as the backup PG his first year that would be pretty good for a team looking to win. There is a strong chance anyone the Wolves draft will begin their time with this franchise as a backup.
Re: Its Lottery Eve
Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 9:51 pm
by Coolbreeze44
I don't dislike Dunn, but I just don't like the fit for us. Ricky is Thibs type of player and I expect him to be a cornerstone going forward. Plus we need shooters, and that certainly isn't Dunn. It might be asking too much for Murray to drop to us, but that would be ideal. Somehow we need to find a couple shooters this offseason, and at #5 it would seem we could find at least one.
Re: Its Lottery Eve
Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 9:51 pm
by Duke13
I could definitely see the 76ers trading Okafor for the 3rd. If that happens they could go in multiple directions with the picks. It balances their roster out a bit.
Re: Its Lottery Eve
Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 9:55 pm
by Monster
I think we can all agree that the Sixers are going to be getting a lot of calls the next few weeks and months.
Re: Its Lottery Eve
Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 9:55 pm
by TRKO [enjin:12664595]
Camden0916 wrote:TRKO wrote:Camden0916 wrote:I think everyone knows where I stand on a handful of players. Noel's one of them. I don't see him getting moved unfortunately. I've come to that sad realization. He's just too good and too young to get moved for an unknown that would be the No. 5 overall pick.
"Nerlens Noel has become one of the best stoppers in the game, to the point that he'd be receiving serious Defensive Player of the Year consideration if his team were more successful. According to defensive points saved, the point-preventing portion of NBA Math's TPA, he was the league's No. 1 defender during his rookie season and No. 10 during the 2015-16."
Just one stat that defines what most of the league already know... Noel plays really good defense. He'll also be a great fit next to Ingram or Simmons, though I'm confident the pick will be Ingram. He's not going anywhere -- at least not yet.
Trying not to live in the past, but had Cleveland done the smart thing and drafted Noel over Bennett then included him in the Love trade, then we would be sitting pretty right now. That being said, I definitely see what it would take to get him. The 76ers are loaded with front court options. It doesn't hurt to ask.
I could see them moving Okafor or Embiid before anyone. I could see Boston scooping up Okafor. Stevens is smart enough to be able to utilize him fully offensively. Bottom line is that Noel's arguably Philly's best player and he's 22 years old. New management has very little reason to deal him. Trust me, it hurts to say that, lol.
Good call on the Boston/Okafor match. I don't see Bender as a guy that moves the needle for Boston. Question is what would you trade to get Bender, if anything. The 76ers wouldn't need another front court player, they need a G.
Re: Its Lottery Eve
Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 9:59 pm
by TRKO [enjin:12664595]
Boston has a billion picks and an almost full roster, they will be wheeling and dealing. This could be an active draft.
Re: Its Lottery Eve
Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 10:02 pm
by TRKO [enjin:12664595]
worldK wrote:I have the sixers picking simmons. That is why I believe okafor could be had. I see the celtics making an offer for okafor with their 3rd pick and sixers pick murray.
Simmons and murray at pg is a good fit. Noel starts at center for them and embiid (If he can play) gets bring along slowly off the bench. They will probably throw big money at harrison barnes and fournier to shore up their wing positions.
Quite possible. They have two good options to chose from. If I were them I would go Ingram due to his to his two way potential.