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longstrangetrip wrote:While I lean toward making a deal built around Garnett for Young, the sad thing is that I see it as an admission by Flip that he made a mistake in giving up the Miami pick for Thad Young. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and say his logic was we needed a starting PF with Love leaving, and Philly was making Young available for just a pick. I'm guessing Flip believed the Wolves could turn Thad into at least a slightly below average rebounder, and combined with his offensive skills, that would make him a decent starting PF. Unfortunately, Flip has seen what many of us have seen...a guy who will never be anything but bottom of the barrel in rebounding. And it's difficult if not impossible to win in the NBA with a starting PF who can't, or won't, rebound.

Garnett is being described by some here as a broken-down player who is a shell of his former self. And yet this broken-down player is rebounding at a rate twice that of Thad Young (over 12 per 36 minutes compared to Thad's anemic 5.5), and also carries a higher PER than Thad's. Cam asked me if I have watched any Nets games this year, and the answer is not many. But when I have watched them, it is clear to me that KG is still a superior defensive player than Thad. If KG is broken down, what is Thad Young?

While it's fun for some Wolves fans to have KG back, this isn't about addition...it's about subtraction. You just aren't going to win giving significant minutes to a PF who gets thrashed on the glass every night. This deal removes the worry many of us had that Thad would opt in next year, and now Flip will have another $10 million to spend on someone who can really help us. Will he use it wisely? I don't know...I'm a little down on the Flipster right now. But as a Wolves' fan, I can only hope that he will use it wisely.

60WinTim wrote:Or Joe Smith...

It bugs me a bit to characterize "a 1st round pick for Thad" as a "mistake". There was sound logic to the way the deal was structured. It wasn't even our pick. Maybe things would have been different had the injuries not happened (I'm thinking Turiaf, too).

GMs make moves all the time. Some work out better than others. And while there can certainly be "mistakes", I think it's more often the case of "it didn't work out as well as expected".

alexftbl8181 wrote:

Phenom's_Revenge wrote:

alexftbl8181 wrote:

60WinTim wrote:

Phenom's_Revenge wrote:Budinger better be Brooklyn bound.

This could be a nice cap clearing move if nothing else.

That would be pretty sweet if Bud was included as well. Even more money to spend next year!

To sign who? Some other player that we'll all think they overpaid for then in another few years when we trade THAT guy, then THAT move will be great because we got rid of THAT guy.

What a successful circle that is

Then why are you here?

misery loves company

Phenom's_Revenge wrote:I think more than anything, this trade is about KG being a mentor. Flips favorite bed time story is about how Mitchell and Porter made KG into a professional and whipped him into shape. I think he really wants to complete the circle and have KG teach the new generation. It's fool proof.

CoolBreeze44 wrote:

Phenom's_Revenge wrote:I think more than anything, this trade is about KG being a mentor. Flips favorite bed time story is about how Mitchell and Porter made KG into a professional and whipped him into shape. I think he really wants to complete the circle and have KG teach the new generation. It's fool proof.

Of course it is, eventually you get to the head fool. And you call him the Big Ticket